Value of a Full Service History

How valuable do you consider a full service history?

In August, a reputable Land Rover dealer sold me a year 2000 Defender 110
TD5 (151.000 km), claiming it had a full service history.
Despite numerous requests he does not come forward with the Service History
Book.
I am now assuming that there is in fact no service history.

As I personally would not buy a second hand car (never mind 4x4) without a
full service history, I cannot expect to easily resell my Landy, expecting a
fair price.

What percentage "value" would you put to a missing service history book? ( I
am going to sue the bastard)
Thanks for your opinion.

In news:[email protected],
Nathan Barog <[email protected]> blithered:
> How valuable do you consider a full service history?
>
> In August, a reputable Land Rover dealer sold me a year 2000 Defender
> 110 TD5 (151.000 km), claiming it had a full service history.
> Despite numerous requests he does not come forward with the Service
> History Book.
> I am now assuming that there is in fact no service history.
>
> As I personally would not buy a second hand car (never mind 4x4)
> without a full service history, I cannot expect to easily resell my
> Landy, expecting a fair price.
>
> What percentage "value" would you put to a missing service history
> book? ( I am going to sue the bastard)
> Thanks for your opinion.

Whatever you paid for the vehicle!

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GbH wrote:

> In news:[email protected],
> Nathan Barog <[email protected]> blithered:
>> How valuable do you consider a full service history?
>>
>> In August, a reputable Land Rover dealer sold me a year 2000 Defender
>> 110 TD5 (151.000 km), claiming it had a full service history.
>> Despite numerous requests he does not come forward with the Service
>> History Book.
>> I am now assuming that there is in fact no service history.
>>
>> As I personally would not buy a second hand car (never mind 4x4)
>> without a full service history, I cannot expect to easily resell my
>> Landy, expecting a fair price.
>>
>> What percentage "value" would you put to a missing service history
>> book? ( I am going to sue the bastard)
>> Thanks for your opinion.
>
> Whatever you paid for the vehicle!
>

Obtaining money by deception, isn't it? You bought a vehicle with a FSH
which turned out not to have one - that's misrepresentation.

Go beat them up and see about it.

P.
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Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?

On or around Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:11:15 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>GbH wrote:
>
>> In news:[email protected],
>> Nathan Barog <[email protected]> blithered:
>>> How valuable do you consider a full service history?
>>>
>>> In August, a reputable Land Rover dealer sold me a year 2000 Defender
>>> 110 TD5 (151.000 km), claiming it had a full service history.
>>> Despite numerous requests he does not come forward with the Service
>>> History Book.
>>> I am now assuming that there is in fact no service history.
>>>
>>> As I personally would not buy a second hand car (never mind 4x4)
>>> without a full service history, I cannot expect to easily resell my
>>> Landy, expecting a fair price.
>>>
>>> What percentage "value" would you put to a missing service history
>>> book? ( I am going to sue the bastard)
>>> Thanks for your opinion.
>>
>> Whatever you paid for the vehicle!
>>
>
>Obtaining money by deception, isn't it? You bought a vehicle with a FSH
>which turned out not to have one - that's misrepresentation.
>
>Go beat them up and see about it.

though in fact, what's really needed is the value difference between a FSH
100-K-miler, and one with no verifiable history. It's only about 3-4 years
old, so fairly pricey.

In UK terms, for that sort of age vehicle, I'd guess at about a couple of K
max for FSH, depending on condition; if 2 vehicles were on the forecourt,
one with FSH and one similar but without, I doubt the price difference would
be that much.

If you intend to reject the vehicle, as being not as described in the
contract of sale, for example, then you should get back the value paid, plus
any incidental expenses. If you intend keeping it even so, then I guess you
should be due an amount in respect of the difference in value, but it's a
hard thing to put a price on and probably hard to get - I suspect your best
option is that the vehicle is not as described and thus you reject it and
want a full refund.

When we bought our G reg Range Rover it had a FSH. I didnt have it serviced
by a garage in the four years we had it as I do everything myself. When I
sold it (part exchanged at a dealer) they said if I had kept up with a FSH
they would have given me £1000 more for it. But, I figured if I had had it
sercviced at a dealer over the four years it would have cost me more than
£1000. So, effectively I was better off?
Richard



"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:11:15 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>GbH wrote:
>>
>>> In news:[email protected],
>>> Nathan Barog <[email protected]> blithered:
>>>> How valuable do you consider a full service history?
>>>>
>>>> In August, a reputable Land Rover dealer sold me a year 2000 Defender
>>>> 110 TD5 (151.000 km), claiming it had a full service history.
>>>> Despite numerous requests he does not come forward with the Service
>>>> History Book.
>>>> I am now assuming that there is in fact no service history.
>>>>
>>>> As I personally would not buy a second hand car (never mind 4x4)
>>>> without a full service history, I cannot expect to easily resell my
>>>> Landy, expecting a fair price.
>>>>
>>>> What percentage "value" would you put to a missing service history
>>>> book? ( I am going to sue the bastard)
>>>> Thanks for your opinion.
>>>
>>> Whatever you paid for the vehicle!
>>>
>>
>>Obtaining money by deception, isn't it? You bought a vehicle with a FSH
>>which turned out not to have one - that's misrepresentation.
>>
>>Go beat them up and see about it.
>
> though in fact, what's really needed is the value difference between a FSH
> 100-K-miler, and one with no verifiable history. It's only about 3-4
> years
> old, so fairly pricey.
>
> In UK terms, for that sort of age vehicle, I'd guess at about a couple of
> K
> max for FSH, depending on condition; if 2 vehicles were on the forecourt,
> one with FSH and one similar but without, I doubt the price difference
> would
> be that much.
>
> If you intend to reject the vehicle, as being not as described in the
> contract of sale, for example, then you should get back the value paid,
> plus
> any incidental expenses. If you intend keeping it even so, then I guess
> you
> should be due an amount in respect of the difference in value, but it's a
> hard thing to put a price on and probably hard to get - I suspect your
> best
> option is that the vehicle is not as described and thus you reject it and
> want a full refund.
>
>

"Nathan Barog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How valuable do you consider a full service history?
>
> In August, a reputable Land Rover dealer sold me a year 2000 Defender 110
> TD5 (151.000 km), claiming it had a full service history.
> Despite numerous requests he does not come forward with the Service
History
> Book.
> I am now assuming that there is in fact no service history.
>
> As I personally would not buy a second hand car (never mind 4x4) without a
> full service history, I cannot expect to easily resell my Landy, expecting
a
> fair price.
>
> What percentage "value" would you put to a missing service history book?
( I
> am going to sue the bastard)
> Thanks for your opinion.
>
>

Considering some of the crap services I have seen from Garages, I would be
more interested in invoices and bills for work done to the vehicle and
receipts for the correct service items such as filters, oils etc.( When I do
my own service I get the shop to detail the goods with code numbers if
applicable. It is reasonable to assume that if someone can provide genuine
items at regular intervals they will probably have done the work on it. Not
much point in gathering bills on a regular basis over a number of years
unless you genuinely do the work.Mind you it could be a con but then perhaps
a feel for the seller as a con or genuine would come in handy.