USA convert to LPG?

Richard Brookman wrote:
> Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>>> On or around Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:39:20 +0100, "William Tasso"
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>>> The local supermarket feels it necessary to display more than one
>>>> type of passion fruit FFS.
>
>>> It's very hard to make a case for having more than one kind.
>
> I can see a case for not having them at all. We've just spent a
> couple of weeks in France and Italy and had some great food, but
> TBH most of it can be had in the local supermarket these days. Where's the fun in going abroad? The
> money's all the same (sterling
> excepted), the food's the same, the last few weeks even the
> weather's been the same. I blame New Labour.
> Seriously, all this international shipping is homogenising the
> world, which might have its advantages, but is a shame in other
> ways.

It's a case of strawberries, when i was a nipper you could only get them in summer. Now it's strawberry
season all year round. Keep starwerriries for summer i say!

Nige wrote:

||| Seriously, all this international shipping is homogenising the
||| world, which might have its advantages, but is a shame in other
||| ways.
||
|| It's a case of strawberries, when i was a nipper you could only get
|| them in summer. Now it's strawberry season all year round. Keep
|| starwerriries for summer i say!

Yup, I remember that! The day that strawberries were in the grocer's (not
Tesco!) was a major landmark in the year. And the arrival of new potatoes.
Oh hang on - they were flown in from Jersey. And Egypt. <argument crumbles
beneath feet> Seems like we've been doing this a while - only now it's not
just a few items, it's everything. We had some mangetout peas a while ago -
flown in from Zimbabwe, I think. If driving a 4x4 is an environmental
crime, that must be a hanging offence. All those jet emissions pumped into
the upper atmosphere so I can have a rather tasteless bit of greenery on my
plate, when you can grow better in your own garden.

<dad> What *is* the world coming to? </dad>

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Richard Brookman wrote:
> Nige wrote:
>
>>>> Seriously, all this international shipping is homogenising the
>>>> world, which might have its advantages, but is a shame in other
>>>> ways.
>>>
>>> It's a case of strawberries, when i was a nipper you could only
>>> get them in summer. Now it's strawberry season all year round.
>>> Keep starwerriries for summer i say!
>
> Yup, I remember that! The day that strawberries were in the
> grocer's (not Tesco!) was a major landmark in the year. And the
> arrival of new potatoes. Oh hang on - they were flown in from
> Jersey. And Egypt. <argument crumbles beneath feet> Seems like
> we've been doing this a while - only now it's not just a few items,
> it's everything. We had some mangetout peas a while ago - flown in
> from Zimbabwe, I think. If driving a 4x4 is an environmental
> crime, that must be a hanging offence. All those jet emissions
> pumped into the upper atmosphere so I can have a rather tasteless
> bit of greenery on my plate, when you can grow better in your own
> garden.
> <dad> What *is* the world coming to? </dad>

Where does all this environmentalist bollocks end though? In a while the bigger folk will be getting
picked on as they produce more CO2 than smaller folk!!!

**** 'em I say, The planet is ****ed anyway & it's nothing to do with us, it's the fact it has a finite
life anyway. we are only blobs on the surface.

I can just see the prehistoric times headline now 'GLOBAL WARMING HITS ALL TIME HIGH AS ICE AGE MELTS'

BTW, I'm only kidding, i do care about the pollution & environment we live in, but it needs to be taken
sensibly, not knee jerk.

Nige

On 2006-07-29, Nige <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's a case of strawberries, when i was a nipper you could only get
> them in summer. Now it's strawberry season all year round. Keep
> starwerriries for summer i say!

IIRC polytunnels have extended the time strawberries can be grown in
this country through until Autumn.

One of those "what is the world coming to" moments happened to me
today when shopping for strawberries. I was surprised to find some
weeks ago that something in the supermarket had been especially bred
for taste, in this case strawberries, marked as "bred for taste".
They were indeed very nice, much better than normal. Since then,
they've been replaced with strawberries labelled as "especially bred
for fragrance"!! Bloody fragrance! Who cares what they taste like
(and they weren't that nice), as long as they smell nice?

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Nige wrote:

|| I can just see the prehistoric times headline now 'GLOBAL WARMING
|| HITS ALL TIME HIGH AS ICE AGE MELTS'

Indeed. They must have printed headline that a few times over the course of
the last few million years. The Earth has been going through a
heating/cooling cycle since time began. I have seen nothing in the media to
convince me that the current situation is anything but part of the normal
pattern

|| BTW, I'm only kidding, i do care about the pollution & environment
|| we live in, but it needs to be taken sensibly, not knee jerk.

Agreed.

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On or around Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:23:28 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Nige wrote:
>
>|| I can just see the prehistoric times headline now 'GLOBAL WARMING
>|| HITS ALL TIME HIGH AS ICE AGE MELTS'
>
>Indeed. They must have printed headline that a few times over the course of
>the last few million years. The Earth has been going through a
>heating/cooling cycle since time began. I have seen nothing in the media to
>convince me that the current situation is anything but part of the normal
>pattern

speed. normally it takes thousands of years to get as much warming as we've
had in about 100. Or so I understand it, anyway. The actual amount of
warming is not out of the ordinary - the planet has at times been warmer
than it is now, as well as colder.

There are 2 aspects of the pace of warming that are worrisome: 1) it might
be that because it's faster it's going further, and 2) The plants and
animals take time to react to changes and if the change happens too fast
they won't adapt. Take trees for example - typically, a given tree species
grows in places with a given temperature and humidity. If the conditions
move further north, say, then the trees will die. however, it takes decades
for trees to establish fully.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic
face by frightening people in the street.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

I can understand the rational of many people, who most often have no
depth of scientific qualification at all and who usually also have a
life style aspiration they need to justify, who simply dismiss those
'crazy tree hugging greenies' as mere fools, on the basis of the
somewhat faux wisdom that the world has undergone many traumatic climate
changes over the aeons. There is one set of scientific facts that have
been constantly and far too quietly repeated in answer to these shallow
assertions and that is the nature of the exponential carbon build up.
The study of isotopes has revealed beyond any argument that the carbons
concerned are man made and not from such sources as volcanic and other
natural activities, furthermore from core samples taken at hundreds of
diverse locations across the planet we also know that the speed of
carbon build up is clearly linked to a rate of climate change that is
unprecedented, to our considerable knowledge, within the last several
hundred million years. Why these salient facts are constantly ignored by
some is miracle of wilful ignorance that must keep the oil moguls
laughing incredulously all the way to their banks.

Bull**** baffles brains.
--
John Lubran

Land Rover fanatic and Producer of a broad genre of films including several
concerning human development and the environment for BBC, Channel 4, CBS,
Smithsonian Institute, The US Department of Education, The Centre for
Alternative Technology, The Welsh Assembly Government and others.

On or around Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:19:52 +0100, [email protected]
enlightened us thusly:

>furthermore from core samples taken at hundreds of
>diverse locations across the planet we also know that the speed of
>carbon build up is clearly linked to a rate of climate change that is
>unprecedented, to our considerable knowledge, within the last several
>hundred million years.

like I said. It's the speed of the change that is different.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
Alphonse Karr (1808 - 1890) Les Guêpes, Jan 1849

In message <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> writes
>On or around Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:19:52 +0100, [email protected]
>enlightened us thusly:
>
>>furthermore from core samples taken at hundreds of
>>diverse locations across the planet we also know that the speed of
>>carbon build up is clearly linked to a rate of climate change that is
>>unprecedented, to our considerable knowledge, within the last several
>>hundred million years.
>
>like I said. It's the speed of the change that is different.


And I entirely agree with you. You write a lot of sense. The hypnotic
powers of the aplomb of confident self assertion unfortunately work both
ways. There's them that talk bollocks and then there's the others ;-))

It's ones duty to always refute bollocks were ever one encounters it.

Because bull**** baffles brains
--
John Lubran

Beware the false wholesomeness of the 'Good Old Boys'

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> writes
>>On or around Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:19:52 +0100, [email protected]
>>enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>furthermore from core samples taken at hundreds of
>>>diverse locations across the planet we also know that the speed of
>>>carbon build up is clearly linked to a rate of climate change that is
>>>unprecedented, to our considerable knowledge, within the last several
>>>hundred million years.
>>
>>like I said. It's the speed of the change that is different.
>
>
> And I entirely agree with you. You write a lot of sense. The hypnotic
> powers of the aplomb of confident self assertion unfortunately work both
> ways. There's them that talk bollocks and then there's the others ;-))
>
> It's ones duty to always refute bollocks were ever one encounters it.
>
> Because bull**** baffles brains
> --
> John Lubran
>
> Beware the false wholesomeness of the 'Good Old Boys'

And a damned fine time to release a movie
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489037/trailers-screenplay-E27417-14-2
please dont get me started on how fuel prices are being manipulated tho.
Derek

In message <[email protected]>, Derek
<[email protected]> writes
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In message <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
>> <[email protected]> writes
>>>On or around Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:19:52 +0100, [email protected]
>>>enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>>furthermore from core samples taken at hundreds of
>>>>diverse locations across the planet we also know that the speed of
>>>>carbon build up is clearly linked to a rate of climate change that is
>>>>unprecedented, to our considerable knowledge, within the last several
>>>>hundred million years.
>>>
>>>like I said. It's the speed of the change that is different.
>>
>>
>> And I entirely agree with you. You write a lot of sense. The hypnotic
>> powers of the aplomb of confident self assertion unfortunately work both
>> ways. There's them that talk bollocks and then there's the others ;-))
>>
>> It's ones duty to always refute bollocks were ever one encounters it.
>>
>> Because bull**** baffles brains
>> --
>> John Lubran
>>
>> Beware the false wholesomeness of the 'Good Old Boys'
>
>And a damned fine time to release a movie
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489037/trailers-screenplay-E27417-14-2
> please dont get me started on how fuel prices are being manipulated tho.
>Derek
>
>


Thanks for the link Derek. The fragmentation of TV and Film distribution
platforms and the consequent shattering of long relied upon business
models within the industry that will come to full fruition with the
impending arrival of 'Super Broadband' and 'Super Digital Compression'
technology, removes power and censorship from those allegedly
democratically elected politicians and their big business controllers.
It's the only way to open the eyes of a largely cap doffing public and
if that means warts and all. So be it.
--
John Lubran

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, Derek
> <[email protected]> writes
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> In message <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
>>> <[email protected]> writes
>>>>On or around Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:19:52 +0100, [email protected]
>>>>enlightened us thusly:
>>>>
>>>>>furthermore from core samples taken at hundreds of
>>>>>diverse locations across the planet we also know that the speed of
>>>>>carbon build up is clearly linked to a rate of climate change that is
>>>>>unprecedented, to our considerable knowledge, within the last several
>>>>>hundred million years.
>>>>
>>>>like I said. It's the speed of the change that is different.
>>>
>>>
>>> And I entirely agree with you. You write a lot of sense. The hypnotic
>>> powers of the aplomb of confident self assertion unfortunately work both
>>> ways. There's them that talk bollocks and then there's the others ;-))
>>>
>>> It's ones duty to always refute bollocks were ever one encounters it.
>>>
>>> Because bull**** baffles brains
>>> --
>>> John Lubran
>>>
>>> Beware the false wholesomeness of the 'Good Old Boys'
>>
>>And a damned fine time to release a movie
>>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489037/trailers-screenplay-E27417-14-2
>> please dont get me started on how fuel prices are being manipulated tho.
>>Derek
>>
>>
>
>
> Thanks for the link Derek. The fragmentation of TV and Film distribution
> platforms and the consequent shattering of long relied upon business
> models within the industry that will come to full fruition with the
> impending arrival of 'Super Broadband' and 'Super Digital Compression'
> technology, removes power and censorship from those allegedly
> democratically elected politicians and their big business controllers.
> It's the only way to open the eyes of a largely cap doffing public and if
> that means warts and all. So be it.
> --
> John Lubran

Time for the light of publicity to be shone into the corners that our
political masters would rather be kept dark . This movie could well be the
first
documentary I will actually pay to see on the big screen rather than as with
Michael Moores sterling efforts buying on tape/dvd but I fear that general
release is unlikely across the bigger chains. Still without a Villa to lend
out I don't think my view
will be noticed.
Derek

On or around Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:10:45 GMT, "Derek"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Time for the light of publicity to be shone into the corners that our
>political masters would rather be kept dark

interestingly, turny-blur and arnie have just made an agreement to do summat
about carbon emissions. blur predictably declined to actually criticise the
shrub, but arnie wasn't so circumspect, and made comments to the effect that
the leadership on environmental issues wasn't good.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
In Touch: Get in touch with yourself by touching yourself.
If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

In message <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> writes
>On or around Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:10:45 GMT, "Derek"
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>Time for the light of publicity to be shone into the corners that our
>>political masters would rather be kept dark
>
>interestingly, turny-blur and arnie have just made an agreement to do summat
>about carbon emissions. blur predictably declined to actually criticise the
>shrub, but arnie wasn't so circumspect, and made comments to the effect that
>the leadership on environmental issues wasn't good.
>
This the same Arnie who initiated the civilian version of the mega gas
guzzling Humvee?
--
hugh
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