Tracing driver

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Mike

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If I wanted to trace the driver (and address) from a reg, can that be done?
The car is likely to be reg'd to a lease company so I need to go past just
finding the owner.

All ideas welcome (well, legal ones)

Mike


 

"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If I wanted to trace the driver (and address) from a reg, can that be
done?
> The car is likely to be reg'd to a lease company so I need to go past just
> finding the owner.
>
> All ideas welcome (well, legal ones)
>
> Mike
>
>

I think you can pay for this information from the DVLA but you will need
a legitimate reason for the request.

Martin


 
Oily <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> If I wanted to trace the driver (and address) from a reg, can that
>> be done? The car is likely to be reg'd to a lease company so I need
>> to go past just finding the owner.
>>
>> All ideas welcome (well, legal ones)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
> I think you can pay for this information from the DVLA but you
> will need a legitimate reason for the request.
>
> Martin

Legally you have very little hope, the Police have enough trouble in the
event of accidents and such like, for what should be a simple system can be
a minefield.

I'd say whatever the reason either leave it to the police if it's a criminal
matter or forget it. If it's a lease company they may only be able to tell
you a company has it and not the driver, they are highly unlikely to
disclose any information unless the police serve forms for relevant
offences.

Lee D


 
I agree with Lee, I had a bus hit my truck and did a runner. Despite giving
the Police the bus reg no., I got nowhere. I tried the DVLA, they made so
many lame excuses and reasons for not giving the info out i gave up on them.
I saw the bus a few days later with the marks on the side where it hit me
and called the number, got the name of the company and asked where they
were. I called in later that day and laid out my case!. Despite being
shocked that one of his drivers would do such a thing and with passengers
on-board he wouldn't help referring me to the police instead - huh! I said
to the bus company the there should have been at least a tacho for that day
or a name on the roster but they weren't interested saying that it was too
much trouble soo my reply was "I'll wait at the end of the road tonight and
run into one of your buses and we'll casually forget the whole thing ever
happened then..."
i never did though i reckon i should have. itcost me £400 for repairs.

Jock
 
"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If I wanted to trace the driver (and address) from a reg, can that be
done?
> The car is likely to be reg'd to a lease company so I need to go past just
> finding the owner.
>
> All ideas welcome (well, legal ones)

They won't release the info to you, try turning it around, would you want
them to release your name and address to someone who wrote down your
number?. It would be a license for chavs to find the homes of people who can
afford nice motors, and to find when they were empty...
Greg


 
Greg wrote:
> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> If I wanted to trace the driver (and address) from a reg, can that be
> done?
>> The car is likely to be reg'd to a lease company so I need to go past just
>> finding the owner.
>>
>> All ideas welcome (well, legal ones)
>
> They won't release the info to you, try turning it around, would you want
> them to release your name and address to someone who wrote down your
> number?. It would be a license for chavs to find the homes of people who can
> afford nice motors, and to find when they were empty...
> Greg

The DVLA will release registered keeper information to anyone who comes
up with a valid reason for need it. Whether the OP's reason is valid as
far as the DVLA are concerned I'm not sure.

In Switzerland you can buy a book in the equivalent of WH Smiths that
has the name and address of the owner of every registered vehicle in the
country!

Matt
 
"Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...

> The DVLA will release registered keeper information to anyone who comes
> up with a valid reason for need it. Whether the OP's reason is valid as
> far as the DVLA are concerned I'm not sure.

Yes that's what it says on their web site, but what valid reason can you
think of that a civilian can use that would override the fundamental problem
that it's a gift for criminals to be able to find someone's address?. Only
if there is some sort of law breaking involved, and then you would of course
involve the authorities who would make the request not make it yourself.

> In Switzerland you can buy a book in the equivalent of WH Smiths that
> has the name and address of the owner of every registered vehicle in the
> country!

Presumably they don't have a data protection act like ours, or chav scum
abusing any systems they can for criminal gain, but almost every adult in
Switzerland is also a reservist with a gun locked up at home so we're not
talking about a similar society to ours :cool:.

Greg


 
In message <[email protected]>,
[email protected] writes
>I agree with Lee, I had a bus hit my truck and did a runner. Despite giving
>the Police the bus reg no., I got nowhere. I tried the DVLA, they made so
>many lame excuses and reasons for not giving the info out i gave up on them.
>I saw the bus a few days later with the marks on the side where it hit me
>and called the number, got the name of the company and asked where they
>were. I called in later that day and laid out my case!. Despite being
>shocked that one of his drivers would do such a thing and with passengers
>on-board he wouldn't help referring me to the police instead - huh! I said
>to the bus company the there should have been at least a tacho for that day
>or a name on the roster but they weren't interested saying that it was too
>much trouble soo my reply was "I'll wait at the end of the road tonight and
>run into one of your buses and we'll casually forget the whole thing ever
>happened then..."
>i never did though i reckon i should have. itcost me £400 for repairs.
>
>Jock
Did you consider a claim against the company in the small claims court?
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
I didn't actually, i just put it against expenses and got it off of my tax
bill. It meant though i lost a mornings work getting the parts fitted. I did
however report the bus company for tacho infringements so a little
consolation there

Jock
 
Greg wrote:

> They won't release the info to you, try turning it around, would you want
> them to release your name and address to someone who wrote down your
> number?. It would be a license for chavs to find the homes of people who can
> afford nice motors, and to find when they were empty...
> Greg
>

They will, and it used to be free, although there may be a fee now.
If you have reason to find the driver of a vehicle, as say in an
accident or because you sold it and it may have a defect etc, they
will (and have, in my case) release the details. They sell them to
everyone else anyway ;)


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
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"Danny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> They will, and it used to be free, although there may be a fee now.

There's not only a fee now but the whole thing has been tightened up, what
may have been the case in the past is not necessarily the case now.

> If you have reason to find the driver of a vehicle,

That's the point, you have to have a very good reason.

> as say in an accident

Others have said in this thread that they could not get the name and address
of a registered keeper just because they claimed to have been involved in an
accident where said vehicle left the scene. It would be far too easy for the
chavs to claim that in order to get the details for criminal purposes, you
have to go through the police and even then they usually can't be arsed with
such 'minor' crime.

>or because you sold it and it may have a defect etc,

Now that is a very specific situation, they know you sold the vehicle you
are enquiring about so could indeed have some important info for the owner,
though the obvious question would be why you didn't mention the defect when
you sold it...

> they will (and have, in my case) release the details.

In what situation did they do it and was it recently?

> They sell them to everyone else anyway ;)

Well they shouldn't!, I don't recall any tick box asking if they could sell
on my details and without one they would be breaking the data protection
act.
Greg


 
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:21:42 +0100, "Mike" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>If I wanted to trace the driver (and address) from a reg, can that be done?
>The car is likely to be reg'd to a lease company so I need to go past just
>finding the owner.
>
>All ideas welcome (well, legal ones)

It would be ncie if you could trace drivers. I saw someone speeding
off as i walked towards my car yesterday and they had left me a nice
dent in the passenger door! I had parked on my own at the far end of
the car park too! magnetic car effect.

I reckon I did quite well to last a year since the respray before
getting a door dent, but its still annoying.

 
Greg wrote:

||| They sell them to everyone else anyway ;)
||
|| Well they shouldn't!, I don't recall any tick box asking if they
|| could sell on my details and without one they would be breaking the
|| data protection act.
|| Greg

They routinely sell addresses & names to wheel-clamping companies who need
to trace "victims" - ISTR this was in the national press a few months ago.
Also, the animal rights maniacs had a tame employee until recently who was
giving them the names and addesses of vehicles seen following hunts etc, so
they could find them at home and do whatever.

The DPA and the ticking of boxes are irrelevant. As we have seen from the
Post Office business this last week, if there's money involved, the rights
of you and me go out the window.

--
Rich
==============================

Take out the obvious to email me.


 
"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...

> They routinely sell addresses & names to wheel-clamping companies who need
> to trace "victims" - ISTR this was in the national press a few months ago.

Well if it was in the national press then it's gospel isn't it :cool:,
personally I wouldn't need tracing if my car was clamped so i can't quite
see the point, it sounds like an ideal tablod story which usually means it's
made up!.

They do sell them to private parking firms so they can trace those who
haven't payed their civil penalty notices, and other similar situations that
the government considers legitimate, others disagree...

But that's completely different from a member of the public phoning up and
saying they need to trace someone who left the scene, but don't want to
involve the police for some reason, "so can you just tell us the name and
address that goes with this plate, I promise not to go round and rob him,
honest mate"

> Also, the animal rights maniacs had a tame employee until recently who was
> giving them the names and addesses of vehicles seen following hunts etc,
so
> they could find them at home and do whatever.

I think you've just given a good example of exactly why they don't hand out
such info to just any one, and if they do then why did the animal rights
people even need a tame employee?, this just proves the point that they have
to use criminal means to get around the system which keeps our details
confidential.

> The DPA and the ticking of boxes are irrelevant. As we have seen from the
> Post Office business this last week, if there's money involved, the rights
> of you and me go out the window.

If your information has been illegally sold they make a complaint and get
them prosecuted, they can be fined thousands for each case which must make a
difference.

Greg


 
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