The new Frontera??

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Bob Hobden

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• Dec 16, 2005

• #21

Richard wrote again after
"Bob Hobden" wrote after:
>> Richard
>> > One of our local main agents has (very proudly) got a stack of "What
>> > Car"
>> > supplements on their counter today. This compares a lot of the
>> > competition
>> > with Discovery III. The Discovery III wins, but, though I looked
>> > through
>> > the whole thing, there was absolutely no mention of the really critical
>> > stuff - ground clearence, approach angles, breakover angles, max tilt,
>> > wading depth etc, etc.
>> >
>> > Says an awful lot about the current 4x4 market, and even more about the
>> > mag!
>> >
>>
>> Those things are of no interest to the vast majority of customers, indeed
>> they wouldn't know or care what those phrases meant, they buy for other
>> reasons.
>> Very few buyers of new ones want them or need them for their real 4 x 4
>> ability and if they were only bought by those that do they wouldn't be
>> made,
>> it would be uneconomic. We have something to thank these buyers for after
>> all.
>>
>
> Until they get us banned (taxed out of existence) - it will happen, the
> question is only when.
>
Well I'd cheerfully remove those that use them as battering rams because
they don't know or care about the rules of the road (yes the Highway Code,
it's a few years since I read the latest copy perhaps I should get one for
Christmas).

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Gareth Coe

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• Dec 16, 2005

• #22

beamendsltd said:

> Those things are of no interest to the vast majority of customers, indeed
> they wouldn't know or care what those phrases meant, they buy for other
> reasons.
> Very few buyers of new ones want them or need them for their real 4 x 4

Click to expand...

'sright ~ When the Rangie was first introduced in the states it didn't sell very well. The suits at Land Rover did lots of head scratching and finally came up with the answer: NO CUPHOLDERS! They added these to the (NA) spec and the bloody things shot out of the showrooms

 

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Richard Brookman

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• Dec 16, 2005

• #23

....and beamendsltd spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...

> And the 2CV was for years the only production saloon capable of
> crossing the Sahara unmodified. 2CV's do very well in RTV
> trials,reportedly usually finishing in the top of the lower half.
>
> Richard

Hmmmmm..............

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Dougal

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• Dec 16, 2005

• #24

beamendsltd wrote:

> And the 2CV was for years the only production saloon capable of crossing
> the Sahara unmodified. 2CV's do very well in RTV trials,reportedly
> usually finishing in the top of the lower half.
>
> Richard

Except when the rules are 'bent' to exclude them as being too much of a
threat. By, for example, requiring a "manufacturer's design function to
traverse arduous cross-country terrain".

 

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Richard Brookman

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• Dec 16, 2005

• #25

....and Dougal spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> beamendsltd wrote:
>
>> And the 2CV was for years the only production saloon capable of
>> crossing the Sahara unmodified. 2CV's do very well in RTV
>> trials,reportedly usually finishing in the top of the lower half.
>>
>> Richard
>
> Except when the rules are 'bent' to exclude them as being too much of
> a threat. By, for example, requiring a "manufacturer's design
> function to traverse arduous cross-country terrain".

IIRC, the original design brief for the 2CV was to be able to carry a farmer
across a ploughed field without breaking any of the eggs in the back seat,
and with the farmer still wearing a top hat. Sounds arduous enough to me...

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JacobH

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• Dec 17, 2005

• #26

Richard Brookman wrote:
> ...and Dougal spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
>
>> beamendsltd wrote:
>>
>>> And the 2CV was for years the only production saloon capable of
>>> crossing the Sahara unmodified. 2CV's do very well in RTV
>>> trials,reportedly usually finishing in the top of the lower half.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>
>> Except when the rules are 'bent' to exclude them as being too much of
>> a threat. By, for example, requiring a "manufacturer's design
>> function to traverse arduous cross-country terrain".
>
> IIRC, the original design brief for the 2CV was to be able to carry a
> farmer across a ploughed field without breaking any of the eggs in
> the back seat, and with the farmer still wearing a top hat. Sounds
> arduous enough to me...

'Specially the top hat!

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