Steering Box replacement

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As I said in an earlier thread, due to a leaking steering box my 110 is
not so much marking its territory, but leaving a trail so that it can
find its way home!

Hopefully, courtesy of Richard I will have a recon steering box with me
tomorrow and I hope to fit it tomorrow night.

I have looked at the Haynes manual and have one simple question. They
reccomend marking the joint between the UJ on the steering column and
the steering box. Now as I am replacing the box I can't see the point.
I don't even see the point in worrying too much about alignment, I
assume that is only done to make sure that the steering wheel is in the
correct orientation when going straight (and that can be sorted by
taking the steering wheel off anyway!)

So, am I missing something or do I just remove the old box, disturb as
little as possible, install the new box go through the bleeding
procedure, but if the steering wheel is awry when I've finished, just
remove it and realign it?

Cheers

Peter

 

eric wrote:
> "puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > As I said in an earlier thread, due to a leaking steering box my 110 is
> > not so much marking its territory, but leaving a trail so that it can
> > find its way home!
> >
> > snip
>
> Maybe the LR workshop manual can give you a little more insight:
> http://eric2.dreamhosters.com/Rave.rar

The link doesn't work (for me anyway!)

Cheers

Peter

 

"puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> eric wrote:
>> "puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > As I said in an earlier thread, due to a leaking steering box my 110 is
>> > not so much marking its territory, but leaving a trail so that it can
>> > find its way home!
>> >
>> > snip
>>
>> Maybe the LR workshop manual can give you a little more insight:
>> http://eric2.dreamhosters.com/Rave.rar
>
> The link doesn't work (for me anyway!)
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>

It works for me. What message do you get when trying it?


 
In message <[email protected]>
"puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote:

> As I said in an earlier thread, due to a leaking steering box my 110 is
> not so much marking its territory, but leaving a trail so that it can
> find its way home!
>
> Hopefully, courtesy of Richard I will have a recon steering box with me
> tomorrow and I hope to fit it tomorrow night.
>
> I have looked at the Haynes manual and have one simple question. They
> reccomend marking the joint between the UJ on the steering column and
> the steering box. Now as I am replacing the box I can't see the point.
> I don't even see the point in worrying too much about alignment, I
> assume that is only done to make sure that the steering wheel is in the
> correct orientation when going straight (and that can be sorted by
> taking the steering wheel off anyway!)
>
> So, am I missing something or do I just remove the old box, disturb as
> little as possible, install the new box go through the bleeding
> procedure, but if the steering wheel is awry when I've finished, just
> remove it and realign it?
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>

You'll need to "centre" the steering, by going from one lock to the
other and counting the turns - it's best to get it right without taking
the wheel off as you can end up with more lock one way than the
other, and you can get wear on the drivers side tyre. Also, the self
-cancelling for the indicators relies on the things being about right.

Richard

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eric wrote:
> "puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > eric wrote:
> >> "puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > As I said in an earlier thread, due to a leaking steering box my 110 is
> >> > not so much marking its territory, but leaving a trail so that it can
> >> > find its way home!
> >> >
> >> > snip
> >>
> >> Maybe the LR workshop manual can give you a little more insight:
> >> http://eric2.dreamhosters.com/Rave.rar
> >
> > The link doesn't work (for me anyway!)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Peter
> >
>
> It works for me. What message do you get when trying it?

OK, I've checked, it's the company "IT Police" blocking it. I'll have
a look at home tonight.

Thanks

Peter

 
Indicators won't cancel if the steering is incorrectly aligned.
There's usually a good reason for following recommended procedures.


 
Peter wrote:
> Indicators won't cancel if the steering is incorrectly aligned.
> There's usually a good reason for following recommended procedures.

Thanks.

I wasn't querying the procedure, just that it seemed silly to mark the
old steering box and UJ up when I was replacing the steering box!

What I needed to understand what why it was being marked (and Haynes
don't tell you that).

What I shall do is make sure the new output shaft is (as far as
possible) in the same physical position as the one I have taken out.

That should be close enough to start with, then I can fine tune it by
the number of turns of the wheel from lock to lock.

Cheers

Peter

 

>
>You'll need to "centre" the steering, by going from one lock to the
>other and counting the turns - it's best to get it right without taking
>the wheel off as you can end up with more lock one way than the
>other, and you can get wear on the drivers side tyre.

>Also, the self
>-cancelling for the indicators relies on the things being about right.
>
>Richard


Mine has been "uncentred" since I bought it. Whilst we're on topic, an
idiots guide of how to correct it would be appreciated.

David

1986 RR
 
In message <[email protected]>
rads <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> >
> >You'll need to "centre" the steering, by going from one lock to the
> >other and counting the turns - it's best to get it right without taking
> >the wheel off as you can end up with more lock one way than the
> >other, and you can get wear on the drivers side tyre.
>
> >Also, the self
> >-cancelling for the indicators relies on the things being about right.
> >
> >Richard
>
>
> Mine has been "uncentred" since I bought it. Whilst we're on topic, an
> idiots guide of how to correct it would be appreciated.
>
> David
>
> 1986 RR

Turn the wheels to full lock one way, then to the other counting
the truns on the steering wheel. In theory, the steering wheel
should be "level" and the wheels point straight ahead half-way
between the two.

If it isn't, then one or more of the following has happened:
If the road wheels are straight ahead, but the steering wheel is not,
then he steering wheel has been off at some stage and not put back on
in the right orientation,
OR
(quite likely) the drag link Track Rod End (TRE) has been replaced,
but not been adjusted (by turning) to get the steering wheel right.

Or it coudle be that the steering box has been replaced an not set up
right, or the steering shaft UJ's have been replaced and the
positioning lost.

Richard


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beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> rads <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>>You'll need to "centre" the steering, by going from one lock to the
>>>other and counting the turns - it's best to get it right without taking
>>>the wheel off as you can end up with more lock one way than the
>>>other, and you can get wear on the drivers side tyre.
>>
>>>Also, the self
>>>-cancelling for the indicators relies on the things being about right.
>>>
>>>Richard
>>
>>
>>Mine has been "uncentred" since I bought it. Whilst we're on topic, an
>>idiots guide of how to correct it would be appreciated.
>>
>>David
>>
>>1986 RR
>
>
> Turn the wheels to full lock one way, then to the other counting
> the truns on the steering wheel. In theory, the steering wheel
> should be "level" and the wheels point straight ahead half-way
> between the two.
>
> If it isn't, then one or more of the following has happened:
> If the road wheels are straight ahead, but the steering wheel is not,
> then he steering wheel has been off at some stage and not put back on
> in the right orientation,
> OR
> (quite likely) the drag link Track Rod End (TRE) has been replaced,
> but not been adjusted (by turning) to get the steering wheel right.
>
> Or it coudle be that the steering box has been replaced an not set up
> right, or the steering shaft UJ's have been replaced and the
> positioning lost.
>
> Richard

Two additions, perhaps, at the beginning:

Jack the front end up so that both wheels are off the ground. It'll be
easier for you.

Check the lock stop bolts at the swivels for equal protrusion or for
equal distance between tyres and chassis when on each full lock.
Equalise before going any further.
 

puffernutter wrote:
> eric wrote:
> > "puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >

snip

> > >>
> > >> Maybe the LR workshop manual can give you a little more insight:
> > >> http://eric2.dreamhosters.com/Rave.rar
> > >
> > > The link doesn't work (for me anyway!)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> >
> > It works for me. What message do you get when trying it?
>
> OK, I've checked, it's the company "IT Police" blocking it. I'll have
> a look at home tonight.
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter

It worked nicley at home. Although I'm glad I've got broadband!

Most illuminating. Printed off and ready to go for tonight!

Cheers

Peter

 
On or around Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:57:25 -0800, "eric" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>"puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> As I said in an earlier thread, due to a leaking steering box my 110 is
>> not so much marking its territory, but leaving a trail so that it can
>> find its way home!
>>
>> snip
>
>Maybe the LR workshop manual can give you a little more insight:
>http://eric2.dreamhosters.com/Rave.rar
>

which Rave is it? I've got a CD one, but that's range-rover, disco and
freelander.
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"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
 
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