St Petersburg

David Ferry · Oct 4, 2004

We plan to drive a 2001 Defender 90 TD5 to St Petersburg next year through
Germany, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. It's about 3,500
miles. There is endless tourist advice available out there about all sorts
of things, so it's the Land Rover we need to focus on. We'd be much obliged
if anyone could help us with two things:

Has anyone done a similar trip before with experiences they would like to
share?

Prepping the car is a concern. A major service beforehand is no more than
common sense. As is taking to our local LR workshop. But what is most
likely to break on the way, for which I need to take a spare bit? The
address of a good websites would be a start.

Thanks to you all. Replies here or by email would be welcomed.

Regards

Mother · Oct 4, 2004

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:01:08 +0000 (UTC), "David Ferry"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>We plan to drive a 2001 Defender 90 TD5 to St Petersburg next year through

Ah, you mean Leningrad ;-)

>Prepping the car is a concern. A major service beforehand is no more than
>common sense. As is taking to our local LR workshop. But what is most
>likely to break on the way, for which I need to take a spare bit? The
>address of a good websites would be a start.

There are a number of expedition groups and yahoogroups type lists
which may help, however such a journey is not too hard these days as
you'll mostly be on main roads. Think about what you'd have to
replace in 3 years - and take a spare of that part. (yeah, maybe not
gearbox!).

Top of your list are things like fan belt and filters, then a few
tyres (don't have to be on rims as you'll find plenty of places to put
them on) along with your normal 'spare'. Puncture repair kits are
good - proper ones, not gooo.

Remember you can get most Landie bits for your (currentish) model
en-route should the need be. This may sound odd, but the journey
you're planning isn't 'that far' - there are people here who do that
sort of milage in a month or so (stand up Hobbs), however, a few
personal comforts will come in handy, like toilet paper (yes, speaking
from experience).

--
Some Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available
from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward
my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net

Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know
there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info

Alex · Oct 4, 2004

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:34:25 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:01:08 +0000 (UTC), "David Ferry"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>We plan to drive a 2001 Defender 90 TD5 to St Petersburg next year through
>
>Ah, you mean Leningrad ;-)
>

It changed back again. I remember distinctly as the first time I went
there it was Leningrad, on a return trip two years later, it was once
again St Petersburg. A far nicer name anyway, in my opinion.

The only other noticable difference since the fall of communisim was
that the main drag was noticably the worse for wear with many more
potholes than previously.

Alex

Lee_D · Oct 5, 2004

"David Ferry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Thanks to you all. Replies here or by email would be welcomed.
>
> Regards

I know it's not in the same league but we did 1700 miles towing a big
Caravan this summer to the South of france and back. Only hickup was a
blown fuse through trying to run too much through a 4 into 1 cigarette
lighter socket wotsit. Finding Nemo and A Laptop PSU aren't compatible.

Given your doubling that milage and pobably going to have a few rougher
roads I'd not worry too much. What ever you pack you can bet your bottom
dollar it's something else that breaks if at all.

Just make sure it's all tip top before departure.. and not the week before,
at least a month before. Biggest problem is usually the service immediately
before departure which presents problems as my Dad often recounts.

Lee D

Simon Mills · Oct 5, 2004

Just done 3000kms (1800miles) with my Dico and caravan

from Melbourne to the Flinders Ranges 500kms north of Adelaide.

We had one pucture. I had the usual spares in case but didn't need them.

Great spot for FWdriving I recomend it to all.

--
Simon Mills
Melton
Victoria
Australia

98 Disco tdi Auto

David G. Bell · Oct 5, 2004

On Monday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "David Ferry" wrote:

> We plan to drive a 2001 Defender 90 TD5 to St Petersburg next year through
> Germany, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. It's about 3,500
> miles. There is endless tourist advice available out there about all sorts
> of things, so it's the Land Rover we need to focus on. We'd be much obliged
> if anyone could help us with two things:
>
> Has anyone done a similar trip before with experiences they would like to
> share?
>
> Prepping the car is a concern. A major service beforehand is no more than
> common sense. As is taking to our local LR workshop. But what is most
> likely to break on the way, for which I need to take a spare bit? The
> address of a good websites would be a start.
>
> Thanks to you all. Replies here or by email would be welcomed.

I don't think you need a whole prop-shaft, but a pair of spiders could
save a lot of time waiting if something did happen. You're on a diesel,
and I would definitely carry spare fuel filters -- more than one.
You're in places with good mechanics, and pretty good communications, so
it's more for convenience than anything else.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"History shows that the Singularity started when Sir Tim Berners-Lee
was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Austin Shackles · Oct 5, 2004

On or around Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:55:27 +0100 (BST),
[email protected] ("David G. Bell") enlightened us thusly:

>I don't think you need a whole prop-shaft, but a pair of spiders could
>save a lot of time waiting if something did happen. You're on a diesel,
>and I would definitely carry spare fuel filters -- more than one.
>You're in places with good mechanics, and pretty good communications, so
>it's more for convenience than anything else.

good point about the filters - you might find dirty diesel... ditto
propshaft joint kits, much easier than carrying a whole prop.

some other obvious spares would be handy. Brake vacuum pump, on a 300 TDi,
for example, bloody thing.

Mother · Oct 5, 2004

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:26:05 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>Ah, you mean Leningrad ;-)
>
>It changed back again.

It'll always be Leningrad to me...

>The only other noticable difference since the fall of communisim was
>that the main drag was noticably the worse for wear with many more
>potholes than previously.

A triumph of Capitalism eh? On a point of pedantic order - Communism
never failled. It has yet to be tested.

--
Some Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available
from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward
my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net

Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know
there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info

Rich Clafton · Oct 6, 2004

"David Ferry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We plan to drive a 2001 Defender 90 TD5 to St Petersburg next year through
> Germany, Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. It's about 3,500
> miles. There is endless tourist advice available out there about all
sorts
> of things, so it's the Land Rover we need to focus on. We'd be much
obliged
> if anyone could help us with two things:
>

I guess get some views of fuel quality and take plenty of fuel filters. That
would be my concern

Rich

EMB · Oct 6, 2004

Rich Clafton wrote:

> I guess get some views of fuel quality and take plenty of fuel filters. That
> would be my concern

I's seriously consider adding an auxiliaru fuel filter before the
factory one - something like a dual filter Racor one that can be
switched from one filter to the other leaving servicing to a convenient
time. Racor do a range of filter media in differing grades - talk to
the supplier about what they feel is suitable.

--
EMB
change two to the number to reply

David G. Bell · Oct 7, 2004

On Thursday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "EMB" wrote:

> Rich Clafton wrote:
>
> > I guess get some views of fuel quality and take plenty of fuel filters. That
> > would be my concern
>
> I's seriously consider adding an auxiliaru fuel filter before the
> factory one - something like a dual filter Racor one that can be
> switched from one filter to the other leaving servicing to a convenient
> time. Racor do a range of filter media in differing grades - talk to
> the supplier about what they feel is suitable.

I used to run a Czech-made tractor. The fuel system had the tank over
the engine, and gravity feed through a pretty standard glass sediment-
bowl (with coarse gauze filter) to a mechanical pump, then a pair of
fuel filters in series before the injector pump.

This level of filtering is pretty common on agricultural equipment, and
there can be a lot of dust flying around.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"History shows that the Singularity started when Sir Tim Berners-Lee
was bitten by a radioactive spider."

Viviane · Oct 24, 2004

Can relate to the toilet paper advice - we always keep a roll in the Disco
now. You never know when it will come in handy - better to carry it around
and not use it than not have it and need it!

"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:01:08 +0000 (UTC), "David Ferry"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>We plan to drive a 2001 Defender 90 TD5 to St Petersburg next year through
>
> Ah, you mean Leningrad ;-)
>
>>Prepping the car is a concern. A major service beforehand is no more than
>>common sense. As is taking to our local LR workshop. But what is most
>>likely to break on the way, for which I need to take a spare bit? The
>>address of a good websites would be a start.
>
> There are a number of expedition groups and yahoogroups type lists
> which may help, however such a journey is not too hard these days as
> you'll mostly be on main roads. Think about what you'd have to
> replace in 3 years - and take a spare of that part. (yeah, maybe not
> gearbox!).
>
> Top of your list are things like fan belt and filters, then a few
> tyres (don't have to be on rims as you'll find plenty of places to put
> them on) along with your normal 'spare'. Puncture repair kits are
> good - proper ones, not gooo.
>
> Remember you can get most Landie bits for your (currentish) model
> en-route should the need be. This may sound odd, but the journey
> you're planning isn't 'that far' - there are people here who do that
> sort of milage in a month or so (stand up Hobbs), however, a few
> personal comforts will come in handy, like toilet paper (yes, speaking
> from experience).
>
>
> --
> Some Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available
> from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
> I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward
> my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net
>
>
> Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know
> there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info

Austin Shackles · Oct 24, 2004

On or around Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:52:46 +1000, "Viviane"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Can relate to the toilet paper advice - we always keep a roll in the Disco
>now. You never know when it will come in handy - better to carry it around
>and not use it than not have it and need it!

I tend to keep a roll of kitchen towels - more useful in the normal run of
things than bogroll, and can be used as such in an emergency.

Hirsty's · Oct 24, 2004

> I tend to keep a roll of kitchen towels - more useful in the normal run of
> things than bogroll, and can be used as such in an emergency.
>

Gaffer tape, get the strong stuff not the thin one.

Lee_D · Oct 24, 2004

"Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> I tend to keep a roll of kitchen towels - more useful in the normal run
>> of
>> things than bogroll, and can be used as such in an emergency.

>
> Gaffer tape, get the strong stuff not the thin one.

Thats an alternative... how much pressure will it take and does it have the
same effect as waxing when removed?

;-)

Lee D

Richard Brookman · Oct 24, 2004

So Hirsty's was, like

>> I tend to keep a roll of kitchen towels - more useful in the normal
>> run of things than bogroll, and can be used as such in an emergency.
>>
>
>
>
> Gaffer tape, get the strong stuff not the thin one.

Jeez. Might work, but imagine peeling it off again afterwards!

--

Rich

Series 2a
RR 4.6
V8 trialler
dog, wife, kids, whatever

Tim Hobbs · Oct 24, 2004

>
>Remember you can get most Landie bits for your (currentish) model
>en-route should the need be. This may sound odd, but the journey
>you're planning isn't 'that far' - there are people here who do that
>sort of milage in a month or so (stand up Hobbs), however, a few
>personal comforts will come in handy, like toilet paper (yes, speaking
>from experience).

Can I sit down yet....

If I was driving to Russia there are quite a few things I would take.
A Land Rover wouldn't be one of them...

--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com

Mother · Oct 24, 2004

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:06:46 +0100, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>personal comforts will come in handy, like toilet paper (yes, speaking
>>from experience).
>
>Can I sit down yet....

Have you wiped?

>If I was driving to Russia there are quite a few things I would take.
>A Land Rover wouldn't be one of them...

I'd _seriously_ be into an overland to Russia (having a number of
friends there) in Grumble. It's achievable and well within a couple
of months holiday allowance.

Paul S. Brown · Oct 24, 2004

Mother wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:06:46 +0100, Tim Hobbs
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>personal comforts will come in handy, like toilet paper (yes, speaking
>>>from experience).
>>
>>Can I sit down yet....
>
> Have you wiped?
>
>>If I was driving to Russia there are quite a few things I would take.
>>A Land Rover wouldn't be one of them...
>
> I'd _seriously_ be into an overland to Russia (having a number of
> friends there) in Grumble. It's achievable and well within a couple
> of months holiday allowance.

Now, there all of you go again - giving me ideas.

So, AFL convoy?

P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?

Austin Shackles · Oct 25, 2004

On or around Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:06:40 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>So, AFL convoy?

"Pigpen, this is the Rubber Duck, I'm about to put the hammer down"...?

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