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Hi
can anyone tell me how easy it is to fit power steering to a series3
using parts from a 90 or something else.
i know chris perfect do a kit but it is rather expensive and i have been
told that they are not particularly good.

thanks for any help
Dave


 
In message <[email protected]>
"Splitpin" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
> can anyone tell me how easy it is to fit power steering to a series3
> using parts from a 90 or something else.
> i know chris perfect do a kit but it is rather expensive and i have been
> told that they are not particularly good.
>
> thanks for any help
> Dave
>
>

Unless you are patricularly good fabricator/welder then fitting
the power steering off a 90 etc is not really a practical
proposition - plus it would lamost certainly give you problems with
insurance.If it was easy, everyone would be doing it!

Richard
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In message <[email protected]>
> "Splitpin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> can anyone tell me how easy it is to fit power steering to a series3
>> using parts from a 90 or something else.
>> i know chris perfect do a kit but it is rather expensive and i have been
>> told that they are not particularly good.
>>
>> thanks for any help
>> Dave
>>
>>
>
>Unless you are patricularly good fabricator/welder then fitting
>the power steering off a 90 etc is not really a practical
>proposition -

It doesnt look that complex a job! (assuming that 90 power steering
isnt to dissimilar to RR power steering!).
A weekends work I reckon. Doesnt look like a huge amount of welding
and grinding.

> plus it would lamost certainly give you problems with
>insurance.If it was easy, everyone would be doing it!

I thought that it was a fiarly common thing to do. Definately is with
101's and that cant be any more complex a job! (or are 101 owners just
more determined? :) )

There are plenty of writeups on the net if you search, and I've seen a
few articles and how-tos in the mags.

 

"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 31 May 2005 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In message <[email protected]>
> > "Splitpin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >> can anyone tell me how easy it is to fit power steering to a
series3
> >> using parts from a 90 or something else.
> >> i know chris perfect do a kit but it is rather expensive and i have
been
> >> told that they are not particularly good.
> >>
> >> thanks for any help
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Unless you are patricularly good fabricator/welder then fitting
> >the power steering off a 90 etc is not really a practical
> >proposition -
>
> It doesnt look that complex a job! (assuming that 90 power steering
> isnt to dissimilar to RR power steering!).
> A weekends work I reckon. Doesnt look like a huge amount of welding
> and grinding.
>
> > plus it would lamost certainly give you problems with
> >insurance.If it was easy, everyone would be doing it!
>
> I thought that it was a fiarly common thing to do. Definately is with
> 101's and that cant be any more complex a job! (or are 101 owners just
> more determined? :) )
>
> There are plenty of writeups on the net if you search, and I've seen a
> few articles and how-tos in the mags.
>

With 101's its a case of the wider the tyres the stronger the arms needed to
steer the darn thing at stopped or low speeds, thats why power steering mod
is so popular
steve the grease


 
In message <[email protected]>
Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 31 May 2005 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In message <[email protected]>
> > "Splitpin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >> can anyone tell me how easy it is to fit power steering to a series3
> >> using parts from a 90 or something else.
> >> i know chris perfect do a kit but it is rather expensive and i have been
> >> told that they are not particularly good.
> >>
> >> thanks for any help
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Unless you are patricularly good fabricator/welder then fitting
> >the power steering off a 90 etc is not really a practical
> >proposition -
>
> It doesnt look that complex a job! (assuming that 90 power steering
> isnt to dissimilar to RR power steering!).
> A weekends work I reckon. Doesnt look like a huge amount of welding
> and grinding.
>
> > plus it would lamost certainly give you problems with
> >insurance.If it was easy, everyone would be doing it!
>
> I thought that it was a fiarly common thing to do. Definately is with
> 101's and that cant be any more complex a job! (or are 101 owners just
> more determined? :) )
>
> There are plenty of writeups on the net if you search, and I've seen a
> few articles and how-tos in the mags.
>

Like I said - if it was easy, everyone would be doing it! The 101
isn't a Series II/III.......

Richard

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>
> Like I said - if it was easy, everyone would be doing it! The 101
> isn't a Series II/III.......
>
> Richard
>
> --

The 101's are essentially based on a rangey chassis aren't they?? which
further backs up your point Richard.

Sam.


 
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:44:49 +1000, "Samuel"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>
>> Like I said - if it was easy, everyone would be doing it! The 101
>> isn't a Series II/III.......
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> --
>
>The 101's are essentially based on a rangey chassis aren't they?? which
>further backs up your point Richard.

101's are based on RR running gear not chassis. They are leaf sprung
too.
The chassis is probably equally similar to both RR and series vehicles
in that its made of box section and has 2 main rails and
outriggers/x-members.

>Sam.
>

 
Tom Woods wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:44:49 +1000, "Samuel"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Like I said - if it was easy, everyone would be doing it! The 101
>>> isn't a Series II/III.......
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> --
>>
>>The 101's are essentially based on a rangey chassis aren't they?? which
>>further backs up your point Richard.
>
> 101's are based on RR running gear not chassis. They are leaf sprung
> too.
> The chassis is probably equally similar to both RR and series vehicles
> in that its made of box section and has 2 main rails and
> outriggers/x-members.
>
>>Sam.
>>

Not exactly "based on RR running gear". More the case of the two types,
which were developed at the same time, sharing engine and gearbox/transfer
case. Axles are not shared (and are not shared with any other Landrovers
either), and as you say, they are leaf sprung, and the wheels and brakes
are not shared with any other Landrover.
JD
 
In message <[email protected]>
JD <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tom Woods wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:44:49 +1000, "Samuel"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> Like I said - if it was easy, everyone would be doing it! The 101
> >>> isn't a Series II/III.......
> >>>
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>
> >>The 101's are essentially based on a rangey chassis aren't they?? which
> >>further backs up your point Richard.
> >
> > 101's are based on RR running gear not chassis. They are leaf sprung
> > too.
> > The chassis is probably equally similar to both RR and series vehicles
> > in that its made of box section and has 2 main rails and
> > outriggers/x-members.
> >
> >>Sam.
> >>
>
> Not exactly "based on RR running gear". More the case of the two types,
> which were developed at the same time, sharing engine and gearbox/transfer
> case. Axles are not shared (and are not shared with any other Landrovers
> either), and as you say, they are leaf sprung, and the wheels and brakes
> are not shared with any other Landrover.
> JD

Actually the 101 was first - the gearbox was developed for the 101
and then used on RR. Th story for the engine is less clear, the V8
had been been messed around with for a number of years before
finding it's first production home in the 101.
The brakes are the same as Series II/III 1-Ton and Stage 1 V8.

Richard
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>
> Actually the 101 was first - the gearbox was developed for the 101
> and then used on RR. Th story for the engine is less clear, the V8
> had been been messed around with for a number of years before
> finding it's first production home in the 101.
> The brakes are the same as Series II/III 1-Ton and Stage 1 V8.
>

Well, i stand partialy corrected. but getting back to the point, it may or
may not be easier to fit p/s to a 101 or a standard LWB series, but more
importantly i think people are more likely to fit p/s to a 101 out of
necessity.

As well as the fact that most of those wackos that own one of these unruly
beasts (i myself wish i was also such a wacko) are very committed to them,
which may transpire to them spending more time, effort and money to get the
vehicle into a very useable state. Thereby being more likely to install p/s.

and getting back to the original point, i have no idea how hard it is to fit
p/s to a series landy.

Sam.


 

>Well, i stand partialy corrected. but getting back to the point, it may or
>may not be easier to fit p/s to a 101 or a standard LWB series, but more
>importantly i think people are more likely to fit p/s to a 101 out of
>necessity.
>

Power steering is not needed on a 101 unless you are a) very weedy or
b) do lots of very low speed manoeuvering

Once rolling at all it is very easy to drive.

Oh, or c) fat enough to need a small steering wheel.

No names....



--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
Tim Hobbs wrote:

>
>>Well, i stand partialy corrected. but getting back to the point, it may or
>>may not be easier to fit p/s to a 101 or a standard LWB series, but more
>>importantly i think people are more likely to fit p/s to a 101 out of
>>necessity.
>>
>
> Power steering is not needed on a 101 unless you are a) very weedy or
> b) do lots of very low speed manoeuvering
>
> Once rolling at all it is very easy to drive.
>
> Oh, or c) fat enough to need a small steering wheel.
>
> No names....
>
>
>
Same comments apply to Series Landrovers. Power steering is generally not
needed provided the front tyre pressures are correct and the tyre sizes are
at least close to those specified, subject to your specified conditions.
JD
 
beamendsltd wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>
> JD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Tom Woods wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:44:49 +1000, "Samuel"
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> Like I said - if it was easy, everyone would be doing it! The 101
>> >>> isn't a Series II/III.......
>> >>>
>> >>> Richard
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>
>> >>The 101's are essentially based on a rangey chassis aren't they?? which
>> >>further backs up your point Richard.
>> >
>> > 101's are based on RR running gear not chassis. They are leaf sprung
>> > too.
>> > The chassis is probably equally similar to both RR and series vehicles
>> > in that its made of box section and has 2 main rails and
>> > outriggers/x-members.
>> >
>> >>Sam.
>> >>
>>
>> Not exactly "based on RR running gear". More the case of the two types,
>> which were developed at the same time, sharing engine and
>> gearbox/transfer case. Axles are not shared (and are not shared with any
>> other Landrovers either), and as you say, they are leaf sprung, and the
>> wheels and brakes are not shared with any other Landrover.
>> JD
>
> Actually the 101 was first - the gearbox was developed for the 101
> and then used on RR. Th story for the engine is less clear, the V8
> had been been messed around with for a number of years before
> finding it's first production home in the 101.
> The brakes are the same as Series II/III 1-Ton and Stage 1 V8.
>
> Richard

Learn something every day! I did not know the brakes were the same as the
One Ton/Stage 1 (V8 & 3.9 diesel), although, of course the drums are not
the same as the stud pattern is not.
Although the 101 appeared before the RR my understanding is that the gearbox
was developed for both. I seem to remember that the V8 first appeared in
the 3.5 saloon.
JD
 
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