Series grinding its teeth....

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Adrian Ford

Guest

• Jul 11, 2004

• #1

Hi all,
After a couple of miles or when engine warms up i start having
grinding in the gearbox when i am changing gears especially third to
fourth.Can change gear ok just grinds and its ok when in gear.

Is this gearbox or clutch problems has anyone any ideas thanks?

(Series 3 2.25 1981 5bearing(red) engine,plenty of oil in gearbox )

Adrian Ford

 

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weallhatebillgates

Guest

• Jul 13, 2004

• #2

Button bashing in practice for another round of Daley Thompson's
Decathlon, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> left
Shakespeare to the monkeys by typing...

snip

>synchros are bascially a friction drive, in some form or another. could be
>that when the oil gets warm, the friction is less frictiony.
>

Synchros are basically a guide to get your gears to engage. If you don't
have a clue, listen to people who do.

PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A MODERATOR - NOT SOMEONE TO TELL ME NOT TO HAVE A
'WEE SWEARIE', BUT SOMEONE TO CHECK THAT THE ADVICE GIVEN HERE WORKS?
SYNCHRO YOU DAFT **** IS A GUIDE TO THE GEARS YOU'RE USING.
WANT ANOTHER BIGOTED RANTING RE: L/R MAIN DEALERS?

BUY THE ****ING MANUAL.
ALL OF YOU
BUY THE ****ING MAUAL
NOT THE HAYNE'S PIECE OF ****
BUY THE ****ING MANUAL
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O O :-o O O
| I so did it again |
O :-o O
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Paul S. Brown

Guest

• Jul 13, 2004

• #3

weallhatebillgates wrote:

> Button bashing in practice for another round of Daley Thompson's
> Decathlon, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> left
> Shakespeare to the monkeys by typing...
>
> snip
>
>>synchros are bascially a friction drive, in some form or another. could
>>be that when the oil gets warm, the friction is less frictiony.
>>
>
> Synchros are basically a guide to get your gears to engage. If you don't
> have a clue, listen to people who do.
>
> PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A MODERATOR - NOT SOMEONE TO TELL ME NOT TO HAVE A
> 'WEE SWEARIE', BUT SOMEONE TO CHECK THAT THE ADVICE GIVEN HERE WORKS?
> SYNCHRO YOU DAFT **** IS A GUIDE TO THE GEARS YOU'RE USING.
> WANT ANOTHER BIGOTED RANTING RE: L/R MAIN DEALERS?
>
> BUY THE ****ING MANUAL.
> ALL OF YOU
> BUY THE ****ING MAUAL
> NOT THE HAYNE'S PIECE OF ****
> BUY THE ****ING MANUAL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gearbox
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12389-1165935,00.html
http://www.singster.co.uk/mascot mar-apr 2003 (4).html

Read it and weep.

An active part of the synchromesh is a clutch which spins the gear about to
be engaged up to speed. A clutch is a friction drive by any other name.

IF the clutch (read friction drive) isn't present in your synchromesh then
a) your gearbox is broken and b) You are back to driving a crash box.

To quote somebody or other "IF you don't have a clue, listen to people who
do". Goes doubly for pedants. Now **** off and leave us to rant about the
dealers on our own. The advice was sound.

P.

 

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Tim Hobbs

Guest

• Jul 14, 2004

• #4

>Synchros are basically a guide to get your gears to engage. If you don't
>have a clue, listen to people who do.
>
>PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A MODERATOR - NOT SOMEONE TO TELL ME NOT TO HAVE A
>'WEE SWEARIE', BUT SOMEONE TO CHECK THAT THE ADVICE GIVEN HERE WORKS?
>SYNCHRO YOU DAFT **** IS A GUIDE TO THE GEARS YOU'RE USING.
>WANT ANOTHER BIGOTED RANTING RE: L/R MAIN DEALERS?
>
>BUY THE ****ING MANUAL.
>ALL OF YOU
>BUY THE ****ING MAUAL
>NOT THE HAYNE'S PIECE OF ****
>BUY THE ****ING MANUAL

No you can't have a moderator. This is usenet. Which, sadly, is why
we have to put up with ignorant dicks like you.

Austin has forgotten more about motors than you or I will ever know.




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'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'95 Discovery V8i aka "The Disco" (FOR SALE)
'03 Volvo V70

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Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jul 14, 2004

• #5

On or around Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:42:04 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gearbox
>
>Read it and weep.
>
>An active part of the synchromesh is a clutch which spins the gear about to
>be engaged up to speed. A clutch is a friction drive by any other name.
>

"Synchronizers are used in manual transmissions in automobiles built since
about 1960 to ease shifting gears by synchronizing the teeth speed prior to
engagement. They allow the toothed collar and the gear to be brought to the
same rotational speed before the teeth make contact. They consist of a soft
metal (usually brass) cone attached to the gear that makes frictional
contact with a cone-shaped cavity in the collar before the teeth are
engaged."

from the wikepedia thing.


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt"
(confound the men who have made our remarks before us.)
Aelius Donatus (4th Cent.) [St. Jerome, Commentary on Ecclesiastes]

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jul 15, 2004

• #6

On or around Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:46:59 +0100, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Austin has forgotten more about motors than you or I will ever know.

<blush>

awww. yer too kind.

</blush>
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
George Orwell (1903 - 1950) Animal Farm

 

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Tom Woods

Guest

• Jul 15, 2004

• #7

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:09:07 +0100, weallhatebillgates
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I LIKE TO RANT

Where did that come from?. If you dont like the way usenet works then
there are plenty of moderated web forums who would surely love to have
you!

Those articles were intersting Paul. I'm gonna take my old gearbox to
bits sometime and see whats in it. I never really understand stuff
properly until i've take it apart to look at it and give it a poke.

I now want to get a gear knob like this one:
http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,134033,00.jpg

 

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Tom Woods

Guest

• Jul 15, 2004

• #8

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:40:05 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:46:59 +0100, Tim Hobbs
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>Austin has forgotten more about motors than you or I will ever know.
>
><blush>
>
>awww. yer too kind.
>
></blush>

Its that hat! ;-)

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Jul 16, 2004

• #9

"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Its that hat! ;-)

Tea , white , none.



Lee D

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jul 16, 2004

• #10

On or around Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:59:09 GMT, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> enlightened us
thusly:

>"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> Its that hat! ;-)
>
>Tea , white , none.
>
>
>

any time yer passing, call in. better phone first, at that, or summat,
otherwise I'd be bound to be out.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic
face by frightening people in the street.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

 

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EMB

Guest

• Jul 16, 2004

• #11

Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:59:09 GMT, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us
> thusly:

>>Tea , white , none.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> any time yer passing, call in. better phone first, at that, or summat,
> otherwise I'd be bound to be out.

Ditto - anyone visiting Auckland, New Zealand is welcome for a cup of
tea, if not dinner once you've made the trek this far. And if you
arrive via Landrover there's even a mechanic available.

As an aside, does anyone know anything of 3 women (probably from the
British Midlands) who drove a series 2 through the Middle East, Asia and
on to Australia about 1960?


--
EMB
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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jul 15, 2004

• #12

On or around Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:46:59 +0100, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Austin has forgotten more about motors than you or I will ever know.

<blush>

awww. yer too kind.

</blush>
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
George Orwell (1903 - 1950) Animal Farm

 

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Adrian Ford

Guest

• Jul 12, 2004

• #13

Is it something to do with the gear oil when it gets warm it thins if so is
there a thicker type oil i could put in the gearbox .
Just a thought!

Adrian
"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 22:28:58 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >> After a couple of miles or when engine warms up i start having
> >> grinding in the gearbox when i am changing gears especially third to
> >> fourth.Can change gear ok just grinds and its ok when in gear.
> >>
> >Sounds like worn synchros in the gearbox.
>
> Mine also gets crunchy as it gets warm. Takes about 30mins or 15miles
> in mine.
>
> Why is it only evident when it gets warm? Im no gearbox expert but how
> do the syncros change as they get warmer? Id have thought that they
> would be pretty much either working all the time or not working all
> the time.
>

 

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Tom Woods

Guest

• Jul 15, 2004

• #14

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:09:07 +0100, weallhatebillgates
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I LIKE TO RANT

Where did that come from?. If you dont like the way usenet works then
there are plenty of moderated web forums who would surely love to have
you!

Those articles were intersting Paul. I'm gonna take my old gearbox to
bits sometime and see whats in it. I never really understand stuff
properly until i've take it apart to look at it and give it a poke.

I now want to get a gear knob like this one:
http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,134033,00.jpg

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jul 15, 2004

• #15

On or around Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:46:59 +0100, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Austin has forgotten more about motors than you or I will ever know.

<blush>

awww. yer too kind.

</blush>
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
George Orwell (1903 - 1950) Animal Farm

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jul 14, 2004

• #16

On or around Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:42:04 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gearbox
>
>Read it and weep.
>
>An active part of the synchromesh is a clutch which spins the gear about to
>be engaged up to speed. A clutch is a friction drive by any other name.
>

"Synchronizers are used in manual transmissions in automobiles built since
about 1960 to ease shifting gears by synchronizing the teeth speed prior to
engagement. They allow the toothed collar and the gear to be brought to the
same rotational speed before the teeth make contact. They consist of a soft
metal (usually brass) cone attached to the gear that makes frictional
contact with a cone-shaped cavity in the collar before the teeth are
engaged."

from the wikepedia thing.


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt"
(confound the men who have made our remarks before us.)
Aelius Donatus (4th Cent.) [St. Jerome, Commentary on Ecclesiastes]

 

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Tom Woods

Guest

• Jul 15, 2004

• #17

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:40:05 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:46:59 +0100, Tim Hobbs
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>Austin has forgotten more about motors than you or I will ever know.
>
><blush>
>
>awww. yer too kind.
>
></blush>

Its that hat! ;-)

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Jul 16, 2004

• #18

"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Its that hat! ;-)

Tea , white , none.



Lee D

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jul 16, 2004

• #19

On or around Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:59:09 GMT, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> enlightened us
thusly:

>"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> Its that hat! ;-)
>
>Tea , white , none.
>
>
>

any time yer passing, call in. better phone first, at that, or summat,
otherwise I'd be bound to be out.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic
face by frightening people in the street.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

 

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EMB

Guest

• Jul 16, 2004

• #20

Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:59:09 GMT, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us
> thusly:

>>Tea , white , none.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> any time yer passing, call in. better phone first, at that, or summat,
> otherwise I'd be bound to be out.

Ditto - anyone visiting Auckland, New Zealand is welcome for a cup of
tea, if not dinner once you've made the trek this far. And if you
arrive via Landrover there's even a mechanic available.

As an aside, does anyone know anything of 3 women (probably from the
British Midlands) who drove a series 2 through the Middle East, Asia and
on to Australia about 1960?


--
EMB
change two to number to reply