Regarding exhausts ... and good service.

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Paul - xxx

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• Dec 12, 2005

• #1

P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust fitted
(Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply, and yesterday centre box fell
apart. The number of dents and scrapes on it from Langdale Quest seems to
have shortened it's usual life expectancy .. So, Kwik Fit again, 3 1/3
hours work fitting it, cutting torch, grinder, large tyre levers, ramps,
trolley jack and axle stands were used, bolts and flange were foobar so they
fabricated one for me from another exhaust ... £28

I was gob-smacked as they'd also, as a favour, swapped two Motocross tyres
from one wheel to the other and had a bastard of a job doing it, for which I
had already given them a drinkie poo (£10)

So I bought a battery from them, and now it starts much more quickly, the
alarm and locks function at some distance and the lights seem just that bit
brighter ...

Whatever **** is taken from Kwik Fit, and the dancing adverts, they've done
me an extremely good job today, and all, including fitting the battery for
which a new battery hold-down strap also had to be fabricated, for less than
a ton.

I is happy.

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!

 

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Judith

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• Dec 12, 2005

• #2

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:16:48 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust fitted
>(Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply,

I had the back two thirds of my ('97 300 Tdi Disco 5 door) exhaust
replaced at Kwik Fit a couple of months ago and was astounded that it
only cost 55 quid. I queried the price (as I didn't want it to double
when I went back to pay) and the bloke pointed at a poster which said
"Thousands of exhausts half price" - mine was one of them, apparently.

28 quid doesn't sound bad! Although, 3 hours work sounds a bit OTT!
(Saying that, I reckon it never took less than a whole day for me to
change the exhaust on my SIII...... but I didn't have a grinder or
cutting torch!)

Judith

 

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Derek

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• Dec 12, 2005

• #3

"Judith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:16:48 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>>fitted
>>(Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply,
>
> I had the back two thirds of my ('97 300 Tdi Disco 5 door) exhaust
> replaced at Kwik Fit a couple of months ago and was astounded that it
> only cost 55 quid. I queried the price (as I didn't want it to double
> when I went back to pay) and the bloke pointed at a poster which said
> "Thousands of exhausts half price" - mine was one of them, apparently.
>
> 28 quid doesn't sound bad! Although, 3 hours work sounds a bit OTT!
> (Saying that, I reckon it never took less than a whole day for me to
> change the exhaust on my SIII...... but I didn't have a grinder or
> cutting torch!)
>
> Judith

I was thinking similar 3 1/3 hours? plus I wonder why a ramp axle stands and
a jack or have we discovered David Blunketts day job?
Derek

 

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Paul - xxx

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• Dec 12, 2005

• #4

Derek came up with the following;:
> "Judith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:16:48 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>>> fitted
>>> (Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply,
>>
>> I had the back two thirds of my ('97 300 Tdi Disco 5 door) exhaust
>> replaced at Kwik Fit a couple of months ago and was astounded that it
>> only cost 55 quid. I queried the price (as I didn't want it to double
>> when I went back to pay) and the bloke pointed at a poster which said
>> "Thousands of exhausts half price" - mine was one of them, apparently.
>>
>> 28 quid doesn't sound bad! Although, 3 hours work sounds a bit OTT!
>> (Saying that, I reckon it never took less than a whole day for me to
>> change the exhaust on my SIII...... but I didn't have a grinder or
>> cutting torch!)
>>
>> Judith
>
> I was thinking similar 3 1/3 hours? plus I wonder why a ramp axle stands
> and a jack or have we discovered David Blunketts day job?

We'd dented the exhaust quite badly and bent it enough that it wouldn't come
out under normal suspension ... the jack lifted the rear up, with an axle
stand, so that it opened the gap up between suspension and axle. The back
of the middle section had effectively been swaged onto the rear section and
needed cutting (grinder) then burning to get it to release. The rear
section was still like new ...

Then the flange from the middle to front section which has studs in it also
needed the studs removing, and in the process of this the flange broke, so
they pillaged one off another exhaust and 'made it fit'. Cracking job,
which I wouldn't have been able to do, even if I'd had the equipment
available.

And there was the battery and two motorcycle wheels.

--
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Paul - xxx

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• Dec 12, 2005

• #5

Judith came up with the following;:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:16:48 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>> fitted (Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply,
>
> I had the back two thirds of my ('97 300 Tdi Disco 5 door) exhaust
> replaced at Kwik Fit a couple of months ago and was astounded that it
> only cost 55 quid.

Yup. rear bit only in Feb was £27 IIRC.

> 28 quid doesn't sound bad! Although, 3 hours work sounds a bit OTT!
> (Saying that, I reckon it never took less than a whole day for me to
> change the exhaust on my SIII...... but I didn't have a grinder or
> cutting torch!)

I only changed the exhaust on our S3 once, which made me use Kwik Fit this
year ...

--
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Marc Draper

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• Dec 13, 2005

• #6

In message <[email protected]>, Paul - xxx
<[email protected]> writes
>P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>fitted (Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply, and yesterday centre
>box fell apart. The number of dents and scrapes on it from Langdale
>Quest seems to have shortened it's usual life expectancy .. So,
>Kwik Fit again, 3 1/3 hours work fitting it, cutting torch, grinder,
>large tyre levers, ramps, trolley jack and axle stands were used, bolts
>and flange were foobar so they fabricated one for me from another
>exhaust ... £28
>
>I was gob-smacked as they'd also, as a favour, swapped two Motocross
>tyres from one wheel to the other and had a bastard of a job doing it,
>for which I had already given them a drinkie poo (£10)
>
>So I bought a battery from them, and now it starts much more quickly,
>the alarm and locks function at some distance and the lights seem just
>that bit brighter ...
>
>Whatever **** is taken from Kwik Fit, and the dancing adverts, they've
>done me an extremely good job today, and all, including fitting the
>battery for which a new battery hold-down strap also had to be
>fabricated, for less than a ton.
>
>I is happy.
>


Glad you are happy.

Genuine landrover exhaust is only 110 quid + vat and fitting. Will last
at least 4 years and probably 6, only takes 45 mins to fit all things
going well.

Kwik fit exhaust as you have found out is not as well made and will
probably die one day outside the two year warranty.
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Marc Draper

 

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Paul - xxx

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• Dec 13, 2005

• #7

Marc Draper came up with the following;:
> In message <[email protected]>, Paul - xxx
> <[email protected]> writes
>> P reg '96/97 300 Tdi Discovery 3 door ... had rear section of exhaust
>> fitted (Kwik Fit) in feb this year very cheaply, and yesterday centre
>> box fell apart. The number of dents and scrapes on it from Langdale
>> Quest seems to have shortened it's usual life expectancy .. So,
>> Kwik Fit again, 3 1/3 hours work fitting it, cutting torch, grinder,
>> large tyre levers, ramps, trolley jack and axle stands were used, bolts
>> and flange were foobar so they fabricated one for me from another
>> exhaust ... £28
>>
>> I was gob-smacked as they'd also, as a favour, swapped two Motocross
>> tyres from one wheel to the other and had a bastard of a job doing it,
>> for which I had already given them a drinkie poo (£10)
>>
>> So I bought a battery from them, and now it starts much more quickly,
>> the alarm and locks function at some distance and the lights seem just
>> that bit brighter ...
>>
>> Whatever **** is taken from Kwik Fit, and the dancing adverts, they've
>> done me an extremely good job today, and all, including fitting the
>> battery for which a new battery hold-down strap also had to be
>> fabricated, for less than a ton.
>>
>> I is happy.
>>
>
>
> Glad you are happy.
>
> Genuine landrover exhaust is only 110 quid + vat and fitting. Will last
> at least 4 years and probably 6, only takes 45 mins to fit all things
> going well.

All things going well wouldn't have happened, and it was a genuine LR
exhaust that broke, not the KF bit. As I said, I couldn't have done it in
the school car park (I'm a school caretaker) with my limited tool resources.
I don't have burning gear, for instance ... We use the Disco off-road
enough to have bent the exhaust quite substantially, which would have made
home removal impossible.

> Kwik fit exhaust as you have found out is not as well made and will
> probably die one day outside the two year warranty.

The Kwik fit bits are the ones that have lasted ... it was the middle box,
genuine LR, that broke, not the bit that KF fitted.

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Paul - xxx

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• Dec 14, 2005

• #8

Marc Draper came up with the following;:
>> The Kwik fit bits are the ones that have lasted ... it was the middle
>> box, genuine LR, that broke, not the bit that KF fitted.
>>
>
>
> Land rover don't do a "middle box"
>
> It is down pipe/cat then one long single exhaust that comprises of two
> silencers. It is only the after market manufacturers that split it in
> to two .

When the genuine LR back box went in Feb, Kwik Fit said they should really
do the whole exhaust up to the manifold, but if I wanted they'd chop it off
in front of the back box and put on an after market silencer. This cost
them money, I guess. This time the remaining bit off gen LR silencer went,
and they duly fitted another aftermarket set, removing and replacing the
still good rear bit. This, I felt, deserved a little praise for work above
and beyond what's usual practice. Kwik Fit cannot have made any money on
either of the transactions. Especially as they also changed the motorbike
wheels/tyres/tubes for nothing other than me giving the lads that did it a
drink.

In my book that deserves praise, even if I take the **** for their dancing
adverts ...

--
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(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!

 

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Marc Draper

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• Dec 14, 2005

• #9

In message <[email protected]>, Paul - xxx
<[email protected]> writes


>
>In my book that deserves praise, even if I take the **** for their
>dancing adverts ...
>

I agree it is most unusual to get that sort of treatment from any fast
fit centre.

Or perhaps you only ever hear that bad stuff !

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Marc Draper

 

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Mother

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• Dec 14, 2005

• #10

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:22:14 +0000, Marc Draper
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I agree it is most unusual to get that sort of treatment from any fast
>fit centre.

Slightly related to 'service', heard this earlier. Manager at a
petrol station in Derbyshire was also one of the local Ramblers, on
the committee or summat. She made a rather silly mistake of
commenting to one Land Rover driver that if it were up to her, she'd
have a button under the counter to increase the price for 4x4 drivers.
The driver happened to be quite senior in the Health and Safety
Executive - called the area manager. Manager of petrol station got a
P45 the week afterwards.

It gets better...

Ex Manager then gets a job at a local skool as an administrator.
Starts a campaign to ban 'mumtrucks' - told not a good idea in
Derbyshire where many skoolkidz are from out of town. Not taking the
hint, she decides to have a rant at one parent in a Rav4 - parent is
on the board of Guvners...

Another P45 was issued...

There is (limited) justice.


--
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of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

 

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Simon Isaacs

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• Dec 14, 2005

• #11

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:53:44 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:22:14 +0000, Marc Draper
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I agree it is most unusual to get that sort of treatment from any fast
>>fit centre.
>
>Slightly related to 'service', heard this earlier. Manager at a
>petrol station in Derbyshire was also one of the local Ramblers, on
>the committee or summat. She made a rather silly mistake of
>commenting to one Land Rover driver that if it were up to her, she'd
>have a button under the counter to increase the price for 4x4 drivers.
>The driver happened to be quite senior in the Health and Safety
>Executive - called the area manager. Manager of petrol station got a
>P45 the week afterwards.
>
>It gets better...
>
>Ex Manager then gets a job at a local skool as an administrator.
>Starts a campaign to ban 'mumtrucks' - told not a good idea in
>Derbyshire where many skoolkidz are from out of town. Not taking the
>hint, she decides to have a rant at one parent in a Rav4 - parent is
>on the board of Guvners...
>
>Another P45 was issued...
>
>There is (limited) justice.

Ramblers, gotta love 'em!!!
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Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

 

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Graham G

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• Dec 14, 2005

• #12

Simon Isaacs muttered summat about:

> Ramblers, gotta love 'em!!!

They drive us up the wall!! You get two breeds those that want to enjoy the
countryside, enjoy a walk, and those that want to exercise their right to
walk come hell or high water and bugger anyone else. Thankfully we don't get
too many oif the latter, but the ones we do, gee wiz, they are some
idiots!!! We have had complaints varying from, the path is too muddy, or the
sheep have crapped on it....

We had one woman make a formal complaint to the council that we had blocked
access to the footpath with a gate!! Not a locked one either but a well hung
12" one. When we pointed this out to the council they insisted that quote
"walkers should not have to open gates that are larger than those of a
bridle path". They did no more than cut down 10" of hedge next to the gate,
and install a stile.

In another instance we had a complaint that we had blocked a foot bridge. It
turned out that the peron inquestion took exception to having to lift her
pooch over a stile since we had put a piece of fence about two foot high
across the bottom to stop lambs getting on the bridge and falling in the
brook. The council decided not to persue it on this occasion and took our
side. So said person did no more that cut all the fece down with wire
cutters. We lost four lambs because of it!

If you ask me, these types do as more harm to the countryside and landowner
relations than any other.

<rant over>

--
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101 GS
101 Rad Bod

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Dec 15, 2005

• #13

On or around Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:39:35 -0000, "Graham G" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>In another instance we had a complaint that we had blocked a foot bridge. It
>turned out that the peron inquestion took exception to having to lift her
>pooch over a stile since we had put a piece of fence about two foot high
>across the bottom to stop lambs getting on the bridge and falling in the
>brook. The council decided not to persue it on this occasion and took our
>side. So said person did no more that cut all the fece down with wire
>cutters. We lost four lambs because of it!

I trust you complained in turn... criminal damage, is that.

bloody rights of way thing is getting ridiculous.
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too much traffic. Avoid the jams by never using your mind on a
Bank Holiday weekend.
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Graham G

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• Dec 15, 2005

• #14

Austin Shackles muttered summat about:

> On or around Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:39:35 -0000, "Graham G"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> In another instance we had a complaint that we had blocked a foot
>> bridge. It turned out that the person in question took exception to
>> having to lift her pooch over a stile, since we had put a piece of
>> fence about two foot high across the bottom to stop lambs getting on
>> the bridge and falling in the brook. The council decided not to
>> persue it on this occasion and took our side. So said person did no
>> more that cut all the fence down with wire cutters. We lost four
>> lambs because of it!
>
> I trust you complained in turn... criminal damage, is that.
>
> bloody rights of way thing is getting ridiculous.

No, just not worth the hassle. Besides, its one of those occasions where
even if you got anywhere you know that the resultant hassle and bad feeling
would not be worth it. Unfortunately they can make our lives a lot harder
than we can theirs.

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Graham

101 GS
101 Rad Bod

 

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Dave Liquorice

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• Dec 15, 2005

• #15

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:55:34 -0000, Graham G wrote:

> No, just not worth the hassle. Besides, its one of those occasions
> where even if you got anywhere you know that the resultant hassle
> and bad feeling would not be worth it. Unfortunately they can make
> our lives a lot harder than we can theirs.

True but very sad, maybe a wander over to The Avengers Handbook

http://www.student.uit.no/~paalde/revenge/TAH.html

is in order. Wonder what you can do with lamb carcasses...

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