Re: removal/refitting of injector pump.

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Huw

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• Nov 15, 2004

• #1

"Mr.Nice." <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I'm sure someone mantioned I could remove my injector pump without
> stripping the timing belt etc.
> however both the haynes and LR workshop manual are insistant on
> removing the timing bilt etc.
>
> which is it? and how?
>
> I assume the spindle is keyed, is it at the same point each revolution
> or can it be a full 180o out?
>
> I've not got my head around this one yet....
>

Are you sure that you are up to this? It just might be cheaper in the long
term if you got an expert to do it. You would have certainly saved this
bother if you had someone who knew what he was doing change the fuel filter
for you. And that was just routine maintenance. My experience has taught me
to walk properly before running.

Huw

 

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Hirsty's

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• Nov 15, 2004

• #2

> Are you sure that you are up to this? It just might be cheaper in the long
> term if you got an expert to do it. You would have certainly saved this
> bother if you had someone who knew what he was doing change the fuel
filter
> for you. And that was just routine maintenance. My experience has taught
me
> to walk properly before running


I have just changed my fuel filter ( 300 Tdi ); what can go wrong ?? It
seemed to run OK last time I did it; year ago.



"Panic is a healthy exercise for those who can afford it."

 

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Huw

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• Nov 16, 2004

• #3

"Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>> Are you sure that you are up to this? It just might be cheaper in the
>> long
>> term if you got an expert to do it. You would have certainly saved this
>> bother if you had someone who knew what he was doing change the fuel
> filter
>> for you. And that was just routine maintenance. My experience has taught
> me
>> to walk properly before running
>
>
> I have just changed my fuel filter ( 300 Tdi ); what can go wrong ??


Not wanting to be odd but you may not have followed this or you would know
that it is possible that you could try to bleed a self bleeding injector
pump and shear a lump of metal off the side of it. It can happen, believe it
;-(

Huw

 

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John

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• Nov 16, 2004

• #4

"Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> Are you sure that you are up to this? It just might be cheaper in the
> >> long
> >> term if you got an expert to do it. You would have certainly saved this
> >> bother if you had someone who knew what he was doing change the fuel
> > filter
> >> for you. And that was just routine maintenance. My experience has
taught
> > me
> >> to walk properly before running
> >
> >
> > I have just changed my fuel filter ( 300 Tdi ); what can go wrong ??
>
>
> Not wanting to be odd but you may not have followed this or you would know
> that it is possible that you could try to bleed a self bleeding injector
> pump and shear a lump of metal off the side of it. It can happen, believe
it
> ;-(
>
> Huw
>
>
well my Haynes mentions a special tool that holds the Drive cog in position.
It says that if you don't have the tool you have to take the timing belt off
etc.

I'd like to hear more on this subject as I am contemplating replacing my
injector pump and I can walk quite well thankyou. I want to know why the
procedure might be ill advised rather than just being told to give it to
"someone who knows what they are doing".

 

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Tom Woods

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• Nov 16, 2004

• #5

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:34:47 -0000, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>Are you sure that you are up to this? It just might be cheaper in the long
>term if you got an expert to do it. You would have certainly saved this
>bother if you had someone who knew what he was doing change the fuel filter
>for you. And that was just routine maintenance. My experience has taught me
>to walk properly before running.

There is no better way to learn than trying it out!

 

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Huw

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• Nov 16, 2004

• #6

"Mr.Nice." <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:34:47 -0000, "Huw"
> <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mr.Nice." <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> I'm sure someone mantioned I could remove my injector pump without
>>> stripping the timing belt etc.
>>> however both the haynes and LR workshop manual are insistant on
>>> removing the timing bilt etc.
>>>
>>> which is it? and how?
>>>
>>> I assume the spindle is keyed, is it at the same point each revolution
>>> or can it be a full 180o out?
>>>
>>> I've not got my head around this one yet....
>>>
>>
>>Are you sure that you are up to this? It just might be cheaper in the long
>>term if you got an expert to do it. You would have certainly saved this
>>bother if you had someone who knew what he was doing change the fuel
>>filter
>>for you. And that was just routine maintenance. My experience has taught
>>me
>>to walk properly before running.
>>
>>Huw
>>
>
> This is hardly the first fuel filter I have changed.
> the problem was that air got into the pump as one of the seals on the
> fuel filter was not seated properly.
> When I was closing the bleed-screw on the pump the housing sheered
> off, needing far less effort to do so than I'd have thought possible.

Like I have previously mentioned, the injector pump on these is self
bleeding and therefore need not be touched. A single high pressure pipe
might need to be cracked off to get it running though but this is easiest
done at the injector end.



>
> I have never removed an injector pump before.
> hence I seek advice from those who have.
>
> up until a few weeks ago I had never replaced a clutch master cylinder
> either, now I have with no problems.
>
> first time for everything for everyone dear boy.
>

Yep, and if I knew the answer I would tell you but this job is not to be
trifled with. It's not a huge job but not one that I would have the patience
for myself. If you enjoy such things, give it a go and I hope you will have
all the answers and the job goes well and without expensive mishaps.

Huw

 

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Huw

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• Nov 16, 2004

• #7

"Mr.Nice." <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:12:40 -0000, "Huw"
> <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mr.Nice." <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:34:47 -0000, "Huw"
>>> <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Mr.Nice." <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> I'm sure someone mantioned I could remove my injector pump without
>>>>> stripping the timing belt etc.
>>>>> however both the haynes and LR workshop manual are insistant on
>>>>> removing the timing bilt etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> which is it? and how?
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume the spindle is keyed, is it at the same point each revolution
>>>>> or can it be a full 180o out?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've not got my head around this one yet....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Are you sure that you are up to this? It just might be cheaper in the
>>>>long
>>>>term if you got an expert to do it. You would have certainly saved this
>>>>bother if you had someone who knew what he was doing change the fuel
>>>>filter
>>>>for you. And that was just routine maintenance. My experience has taught
>>>>me
>>>>to walk properly before running.
>>>>
>>>>Huw
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is hardly the first fuel filter I have changed.
>>> the problem was that air got into the pump as one of the seals on the
>>> fuel filter was not seated properly.
>>> When I was closing the bleed-screw on the pump the housing sheered
>>> off, needing far less effort to do so than I'd have thought possible.
>>
>>Like I have previously mentioned, the injector pump on these is self
>>bleeding and therefore need not be touched. A single high pressure pipe
>>might need to be cracked off to get it running though but this is easiest
>>done at the injector end.
>
> Confusing, both the haynes and the LR workshop manual speak of using
> the bleed screw.
>
> hey-de-ho, you lives and you learns eh.
>

The DPA pump as used by Series and 2.25 defender, the ones with vertically
mounted pumps, did need bleeding. The DPS fitted to 2.5 engines and the
Bosch fitted to TDi are self bleeding.

That kind of confusion causing expensive mistakes is why I prefer to leave
some jobs that are way outside the normal service schedule to people that do
that kind of thing on a regular basis.

Huw

 

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Simon Mills

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• Nov 16, 2004

• #8

>> This is hardly the first fuel filter I have changed.
>> the problem was that air got into the pump as one of the seals on the
>> fuel filter was not seated properly.
>> When I was closing the bleed-screw on the pump the housing sheered
>> off, needing far less effort to do so than I'd have thought possible.
>
>Like I have previously mentioned, the injector pump on these is self
>bleeding and therefore need not be touched. A single high pressure pipe
>might need to be cracked off to get it running though but this is easiest
>done at the injector end.

Confusing, both the haynes and the LR workshop manual speak of using
the bleed screw.

hey-de-ho, you lives and you learns eh.


Regards.
Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
--

Hi Mark

this is probable a dumb question but if LRover
go to all the expense of having a bleed scew put on one of their injector
pumps
then why shouldn't it be used to bleed same pump?

I would have done exactly the same.

--
Simon Mills

98 Disco Tdi auto