Re: Life of Petrol?

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Mother wrote:

> Here's an interesting one. I'd always thought petrol to have a shelf
> life of 3 maybe 4 years max. I have an old jerry can with some
> unleaded from 1996 (chalk mark) which I usually use for cleaning stuph
> with.
>
> Well (erm) I accidentally filled my Honda EU10i Genny with the
> contents...
>
> Runs a treat! Certainly no noticable difference from the 'new' lot
> filled a month or so ago.
>
> So, what determines the shelf life of petrol, anyone?
>
> As an additional interesting aside, the jerry can it was in was the
> most rancid one I have, previously filled with all sorts, including
> Red Deisel for mi boat at one point. The only thing about that can
> that was 'new' was the rubber seal around the cap.


Two things limit the shelf life of petrol
1. Evaporation of the light ends - this can be stopped completely by having
it tightly sealed, and if this is the case this factor does not limit the
life.

2. Bacterial attack. The time taken for this varies enormously, and depends
on :- humidity/water contamination, temperature, agitation, and to a minor
extent access to air. It can be completely prevented if the petrol and
container are not infected, but although there are probably some around
that aren't, it is probably safest to assume that it is infected. Best
precautions you can take are to keep it absolutely dry, and add one of the
antibacterial additives - or do what most of us do, and don't store it for
more than a month or two.
JD
 
Came by a Midget the other year that had been stored for 10 years with
a full tank of 4 star. Midget would only do about 45 mph, and that
reluctantly, on it. Drained it out, put it in the Series 1 and it
loved it! Ran like a dream.

However I believe unleaded goes off quicker, although my lawnmower
doesn't seem bothered by 9 month old UL.

Gordon.
 
On 15 Mar 2005 01:33:25 -0800, [email protected] (Gordon) wrote:

>Came by a Midget the other year that had been stored for 10 years with
>a full tank of 4 star. Midget would only do about 45 mph, and that
>reluctantly, on it. Drained it out, put it in the Series 1 and it
>loved it! Ran like a dream.


Yeah, I had a car with 10 year old petrol. It wouldnt start until we
drained it and put in fresh.
After we drained it we tipped it on a fire and it put the fire out -
so it obviously wasnt petrol anymore!

 

"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 15 Mar 2005 01:33:25 -0800, [email protected] (Gordon) wrote:
>
>>Came by a Midget the other year that had been stored for 10 years with
>>a full tank of 4 star. Midget would only do about 45 mph, and that
>>reluctantly, on it. Drained it out, put it in the Series 1 and it
>>loved it! Ran like a dream.

>
> Yeah, I had a car with 10 year old petrol. It wouldnt start until we
> drained it and put in fresh.
> After we drained it we tipped it on a fire and it put the fire out -
> so it obviously wasnt petrol anymore!
>


Good job really!

Nige


 
I did successfully run a Seagull outboard on some petrol from a can that had
been in a garage since the War!!

Jeff


"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 15 Mar 2005 01:33:25 -0800, [email protected] (Gordon) wrote:
>
>>Came by a Midget the other year that had been stored for 10 years with
>>a full tank of 4 star. Midget would only do about 45 mph, and that
>>reluctantly, on it. Drained it out, put it in the Series 1 and it
>>loved it! Ran like a dream.

>
> Yeah, I had a car with 10 year old petrol. It wouldnt start until we
> drained it and put in fresh.
> After we drained it we tipped it on a fire and it put the fire out -
> so it obviously wasnt petrol anymore!
>



 
Now thats living life on the eadge. :)
"Jeff" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I did successfully run a Seagull outboard on some petrol from a can that
>had been in a garage since the War!!
>
> Jeff
>
>
> "Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 15 Mar 2005 01:33:25 -0800, [email protected] (Gordon) wrote:
>>
>>>Came by a Midget the other year that had been stored for 10 years with
>>>a full tank of 4 star. Midget would only do about 45 mph, and that
>>>reluctantly, on it. Drained it out, put it in the Series 1 and it
>>>loved it! Ran like a dream.

>>
>> Yeah, I had a car with 10 year old petrol. It wouldnt start until we
>> drained it and put in fresh.
>> After we drained it we tipped it on a fire and it put the fire out -
>> so it obviously wasnt petrol anymore!
>>

>
>



 
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:46:29 -0000, "Jeff" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I did successfully run a Seagull outboard on some petrol from a can that had
>been in a garage since the War!!


Don't mention the war. I did once, but I think I got away with it...

(I can do the walk...)

 
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:15:47 +1100, JD <[email protected]> wrote:

>2. Bacterial attack.


Yeah, or any other catalytic intervention. My smile was caused by the
jerry can being the most rancied and mucky amongst my (growing)
collection. I put it down to the new, 15p rubber seal miself mind.

>or do what most of us do, and don't store it for more than a month or two.


Buggrit, that's too sensible...

 

"Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:46:29 -0000, "Jeff" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I did successfully run a Seagull outboard on some petrol from a can that

had
> >been in a garage since the War!!



Ah Seagulls..... they'll run on anything that's not 100% water and even
that's worth a try....

Managed to get mine to run backwards once.

TonyB


 
In article <[email protected]>, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> writes
>On 15 Mar 2005 01:33:25 -0800, [email protected] (Gordon) wrote:
>
>>Came by a Midget the other year that had been stored for 10 years with
>>a full tank of 4 star. Midget would only do about 45 mph, and that
>>reluctantly, on it. Drained it out, put it in the Series 1 and it
>>loved it! Ran like a dream.

>
>Yeah, I had a car with 10 year old petrol. It wouldnt start until we
>drained it and put in fresh.
>After we drained it we tipped it on a fire and it put the fire out -
>so it obviously wasnt petrol anymore!
>


The 4 star in my 109 is about 10 years old. Haven't run it since then,
it now smells more like paraffin than petrol. I'm guessing I'll have to
drain it before trying to start it?

--
John
Ex MOD 109 -> http://www.photopia.demon.co.uk/landy.htm

Preston, Lancs, UK.

 
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:46:29 -0000, "Jeff" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I did successfully run a Seagull outboard on some petrol from a can that had
>been in a garage since the War!!
>
>Jeff
>

That doesn't surprise me at all! I've started and run a Seagull
engine on an emulsion of petroil with, probably in excess of 25%
water, after a complete submersion of said engine in the Avon at
Stratford.

Neil

 
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