Re: empty swivels?

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Nov 17, 2004

• #1

On or around Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:16:10 +0000, Mr.Nice.
<mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>I went to do my swivels today (the filler plug on one side is a
>mangled mess that won't move, but that's another problem) I took the
>drain plug out of one side and nothing came out, not a drip, I waited
>a full 2 minutes and nothing... the back of the plug was damp with
>what looked like greasy mud.
>
>so, questions...
>does this mean the swivel is empty or is it filled with that grease
>stuff?
>
>I have more grease for it here, should I just put it in assuming that
>the grease would fill it to the filler plug?
>

just as likely that it's empty, they often are on old ones, if they've not
been maintained. When squriting the grease in, assuming you get the
filler/level plug out, turn it to full lock so the front of the housing
sticks outwards, this gets the hole clear of the inner swivel and makes life
*much* easier. Also, have a bucket of really hot water and stand the grease
container in it for some minutes to warm up prior to squirting, it'll be
more liquid.

 

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Peter Seddon

Guest

• Nov 17, 2004

• #2

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:16:10 +0000, Mr.Nice.
> <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>I went to do my swivels today (the filler plug on one side is a
>>mangled mess that won't move, but that's another problem) I took the
>>drain plug out of one side and nothing came out, not a drip, I waited
>>a full 2 minutes and nothing... the back of the plug was damp with
>>what looked like greasy mud.
>>
>>so, questions...
>>does this mean the swivel is empty or is it filled with that grease
>>stuff?
>>
>>I have more grease for it here, should I just put it in assuming that
>>the grease would fill it to the filler plug?
>>
>
> just as likely that it's empty, they often are on old ones, if they've not
> been maintained. When squriting the grease in, assuming you get the
> filler/level plug out, turn it to full lock so the front of the housing
> sticks outwards, this gets the hole clear of the inner swivel and makes
> life
> *much* easier. Also, have a bucket of really hot water and stand the
> grease
> container in it for some minutes to warm up prior to squirting, it'll be
> more liquid.
>
The grease is "thyxotropic" like non drip paint so you could just shake it
about allot to make is runny.

Peter.

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Nov 18, 2004

• #3

On or around Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:11:38 +0000, Mr.Nice.
<mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>nice idea. I'll do one side, no problem.
>but the mangled-mess on the other side I'm not so sure of, looks like
>the plug has had blobs of weld stuck to it which is all there is to
>grip on, I cleaned the muck off and gave it a good few squirts of wd40
>and I'll try it again tomorrow night if I get time before it gets
>dark.

you'll need to weld a nut or something to it, I expect. Or get someone to
do so.

 

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David G. Bell

Guest

• Nov 18, 2004

• #4

On Thursday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Austin Shackles" wrote:

> On or around Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:11:38 +0000, Mr.Nice.
> <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >nice idea. I'll do one side, no problem.
> >but the mangled-mess on the other side I'm not so sure of, looks like
> >the plug has had blobs of weld stuck to it which is all there is to
> >grip on, I cleaned the muck off and gave it a good few squirts of wd40
> >and I'll try it again tomorrow night if I get time before it gets
> >dark.
>
> you'll need to weld a nut or something to it, I expect. Or get someone to
> do so.

Gas-welding.

Think about the return path for any sort of electric welding, straight
through the threads...

Get a replacement plug when you do get the old one out.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"History shows that the Singularity started when Sir Tim Berners-Lee
was bitten by a radioactive spider."

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Nov 18, 2004

• #5

On or around Thu, 18 Nov 2004 07:59:15 +0000 (GMT),
[email protected] ("David G. Bell") enlightened us thusly:

>On Thursday, in article
> <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "Austin Shackles" wrote:
>
>> On or around Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:11:38 +0000, Mr.Nice.
>> <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> >nice idea. I'll do one side, no problem.
>> >but the mangled-mess on the other side I'm not so sure of, looks like
>> >the plug has had blobs of weld stuck to it which is all there is to
>> >grip on, I cleaned the muck off and gave it a good few squirts of wd40
>> >and I'll try it again tomorrow night if I get time before it gets
>> >dark.
>>
>> you'll need to weld a nut or something to it, I expect. Or get someone to
>> do so.
>
>Gas-welding.
>
>Think about the return path for any sort of electric welding, straight
>through the threads...

true, although it's worked for me in the past, both on a sheared stud in an
ally block and on other sheared stuff.

'course, you could hold the nut using the earth clamp for the welder...

>
>Get a replacement plug when you do get the old one out.

now that's a valid point. ISTR it's a taper thread thing, in which case,
once it's loosened it should come out OK.

 

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Paul S. Brown

Guest

• Nov 18, 2004

• #6

Mr.Nice. wrote:


> I did the ok side today, but still couldn't budge the mangled one, but
> I took the drain plug out with the idea of pushing the grease up into
> the swivel, when I took the plug out some thick oily grease started
> dribbling out...
>
> question, if this is one-shot grease will I fook it by adding another
> sachet of grease?
>
> the drain hole was smaller and I couldn't get a workable seal with the
> pipe from the new grease, but I was laid on the road in the ****ing
> rain so perhaps I could have tried harder....

Sounds like you had a nice little mix of EP90 and one-shot - somebody didn't
drain it before putting the oneshot in.

Drain it first and try again.

P.
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