problem with group

Hi I was wondering if there has been a problem with the group. I have not
had an update for several days now and I have posted some messages that have
not appeared.

My News server - news.saix.co.za - I assume mirrors the site. Is this
correct? Does the fact that I am not getting any updates mean that they are
not mirroring often enough? Many times I will post and see my post appearing
seconds after I have sent it, so I am not too sure how the newsgroup story
works but I am clear on the fact that I am not getting too many updates.

Any Ideas?

Regards
Stephen

"fanie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi I was wondering if there has been a problem with the group. I
have not
> had an update for several days now and I have posted some messages
that have
> not appeared.
>
> My News server - news.saix.co.za - I assume mirrors the site. Is
this
> correct? Does the fact that I am not getting any updates mean that
they are
> not mirroring often enough? Many times I will post and see my post
appearing
> seconds after I have sent it, so I am not too sure how the newsgroup
story
> works but I am clear on the fact that I am not getting too many
updates.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Regards
> Stephen
>
>

Well Stephen, there is a basic concept error here. This is not a
'site' it's a usegroup. When you post, it goes to your isp's
newserver, that should propagate it arround the net. Maybe your isp
isn't doing this.

AWEM

On or around Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:31:09 +0100, "Andrew Mawson"
<andrew@no_spam_please_mawson.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>> My News server - news.saix.co.za - I assume mirrors the site. Is
>this
>> correct? Does the fact that I am not getting any updates mean that
>they are
>> not mirroring often enough? Many times I will post and see my post
>appearing
>> seconds after I have sent it, so I am not too sure how the newsgroup
>story
>> works but I am clear on the fact that I am not getting too many
>updates.
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> Regards
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>
>Well Stephen, there is a basic concept error here. This is not a
>'site' it's a usegroup. When you post, it goes to your isp's
>newserver, that should propagate it arround the net. Maybe your isp
>isn't doing this.

I'd guess at a propagation problem. Try looking on google groups to see if
the messages are the same there. If there are loads more messages, then
complain to your ISP that their news server is not working right.

basically, when you post a message, it goes from your machine to your ISPs
news server, or rather, to the news server you use, in my case
news.individual.net which is in berlin. Once there it sits on their server
for a specified length of time, known as "retention time", and then gets
deleted again, otherwise they'd run out of disc space. All the news servers
poll other news servers at intervals and say "You got any new messages for
me?" and if there are, collect 'em. A typical news server has a list of
other servers to poll for news and goes around them all quite frequently;
the whole network is thus robust and proof for the most part against
individual server failures.


Then later on, you go online and check for new messages and the server sends
'em to you. Your message will be on your server almost immediately, or
should be, so if you're not seeing your own messages, then there's something
odd about either your local settings (such as filters) or your news server.

Do check carefully that you've not got a silly accidental filter, though.
I've had that in the past, wrongly configured filter killing mail from
someone I wanted to receive mail from...

If you see your messages, but not others, then it sounds more like a
propagation problem.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Ask yourself whether you are happy, and you cease to be so."
John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873)

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:31:09 +0100, "Andrew Mawson"
<andrew@no_spam_please_mawson.org.uk> wrote:

>Well Stephen, there is a basic concept error here. This is not a
>'site' it's a usegroup. When you post, it goes to your isp's
>newserver, that should propagate it arround the net. Maybe your isp
>isn't doing this.

Most news servers run by ISP's seem to be crap - they dont usually put
much effort into it. There are other newsservers that are much better
(that often charge a small fee for their use). A lot of us on here use
news.individual.net which costs a few euros a year. Worth it though
since you actually get all the posts and it always seems to work!

Tom Woods wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:31:09 +0100, "Andrew Mawson"
> <andrew@no_spam_please_mawson.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Well Stephen, there is a basic concept error here. This is not a
>>'site' it's a usegroup. When you post, it goes to your isp's
>>newserver, that should propagate it arround the net. Maybe your isp
>>isn't doing this.
>
>
> Most news servers run by ISP's seem to be crap - they dont usually put
> much effort into it. There are other newsservers that are much better
> (that often charge a small fee for their use). A lot of us on here use
> news.individual.net which costs a few euros a year. Worth it though
> since you actually get all the posts and it always seems to work!
>
I can't complain about the server run by ClaraNET. I used to have a
dialup account, and when I came out here to France I switched to mail
and news only £9.99 per year, and I still have my webspace from the
"full" account I must put something on it...


Stuart