Normal? or the beginning of the old money pit syndrome

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Robbiedoo

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• Feb 28, 2006

• #1

I'm getting a little nervous. You know that feeling you got when you
realised what makes Land Rover products so endearingly irritating

DVLA have still not returned the documents, so I'm a bit fed up but I
thought at least I can tinker a bit & be ready for when they arrive.

So I fitted the CD player and I refitted the instrument panel surround
because it had a bit of a rattle. How do you test the rattle? You start
the engine and get the car vibrating don't you......

.....unless your battery is flat, and you get an ABS error message, and you
get a gearbox error message, and the engine spits a bit and then struggles
to turn over.

So, the question, before I start to panic (the normal procedure). A flat
battery is unlucky, right? it could happen to anyone, particularly when the
car has been sat for a few days after a few weeks of short trips and now the
weather is cold, damned cold. Could the flat battery cause false messages
on the dash?

 

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Ian Rawlings

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• Feb 28, 2006

• #2

On 2006-02-28, Robbiedoo <[email protected]> wrote:

> So, the question, before I start to panic (the normal procedure). A flat
> battery is unlucky, right? it could happen to anyone, particularly when the
> car has been sat for a few days after a few weeks of short trips and now the
> weather is cold, damned cold. Could the flat battery cause false messages
> on the dash?

A dying battery can go flat overnight after a full charge, until I
plucked up the courage to get the wallet out, I used to put my Audi on
charge every night, otherwise the following morning it would turn over
a few times then the car would go nuts. Lights flashing, alarm
squeaking and glooping like it never normally would, relays clicking
rapidly all over the place etc.

So yes, it could just be the battery, I've had it happen on two audis
so far, and it does send the car nuts. The landy's had the same
battery for 5 years now and despite not getting used much it's been
fine, starts on the first turn even in the cold, don't quite know why
the landy's been fine while the other cars have been so bad.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

 

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[email protected]

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• Feb 28, 2006

• #3

Robbiedoo wrote:

> So, the question, before I start to panic (the normal procedure). A flat
> battery is unlucky, right? it could happen to anyone, particularly when the
> car has been sat for a few days after a few weeks of short trips and now the
> weather is cold, damned cold. Could the flat battery cause false messages
> on the dash?

You need to know if that battery is OK first, so take it to a mechanic
with a load tester and hydrometer (unless its a sealed battery). Once
you know that you have a good battery then worry about the rest of the
problems if they reappear.

Regards

WIlliam MacLeod

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Mar 1, 2006

• #4

On or around Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:36:02 GMT, "Robbiedoo"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>I'm getting a little nervous. You know that feeling you got when you
>realised what makes Land Rover products so endearingly irritating
>

is this a P38? You haven't left it in gear or something?

The more I hear about P38s, the less I'm likely to buy one, TBH. It's
undoubtedly a fine car when in form, but I don't reckon I've got the right
attitude, the idea of something that can flatten the battery 'cos you left
it in gear...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.

 

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Natalie Drest

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• Mar 1, 2006

• #5

"Robbiedoo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm getting a little nervous. You know that feeling you got when you
> realised what makes Land Rover products so endearingly irritating
>
> DVLA have still not returned the documents, so I'm a bit fed up but I
> thought at least I can tinker a bit & be ready for when they arrive.
>
> So I fitted the CD player and I refitted the instrument panel surround
> because it had a bit of a rattle. How do you test the rattle? You start
> the engine and get the car vibrating don't you......
>
> ....unless your battery is flat, and you get an ABS error message, and you
> get a gearbox error message, and the engine spits a bit and then struggles
> to turn over.
>
> So, the question, before I start to panic (the normal procedure). A flat
> battery is unlucky, right? it could happen to anyone, particularly when
the
> car has been sat for a few days after a few weeks of short trips and now
the
> weather is cold, damned cold. Could the flat battery cause false messages
> on the dash?
>
>

Gearbox error message is standard for P38's with flat battery. I can't
confirm the ABS message, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Next it'll give you window switch error messages- no problem, once power is
restored just reset by lowering & raising them all the way.

Don't panic, she's just being chatty.
Although in line with recent comments here, you've probably done something
to offend her...

"Musician is to DJ as Author is to Librarian"

 

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Robbiedoo

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• Mar 1, 2006

• #6

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:36:02 GMT, "Robbiedoo"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>I'm getting a little nervous. You know that feeling you got when you
>>realised what makes Land Rover products so endearingly irritating
>>
>
> is this a P38? You haven't left it in gear or something?
>
> The more I hear about P38s, the less I'm likely to buy one, TBH. It's
> undoubtedly a fine car when in form, but I don't reckon I've got the right
> attitude, the idea of something that can flatten the battery 'cos you left
> it in gear...
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
> Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.

Yes, It's a P38.

It's Auto so I'm not sure about your left in gear theory, it's in P as
usual.

I've not heard that one before, I'll give it a charge and then see how it
goes.


Thanks

 

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Robbiedoo

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• Mar 1, 2006

• #7

"Natalie Drest" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robbiedoo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm getting a little nervous. You know that feeling you got when you
>> realised what makes Land Rover products so endearingly irritating
>>
>> DVLA have still not returned the documents, so I'm a bit fed up but I
>> thought at least I can tinker a bit & be ready for when they arrive.
>>
>> So I fitted the CD player and I refitted the instrument panel surround
>> because it had a bit of a rattle. How do you test the rattle? You start
>> the engine and get the car vibrating don't you......
>>
>> ....unless your battery is flat, and you get an ABS error message, and
>> you
>> get a gearbox error message, and the engine spits a bit and then
>> struggles
>> to turn over.
>>
>> So, the question, before I start to panic (the normal procedure). A flat
>> battery is unlucky, right? it could happen to anyone, particularly when
> the
>> car has been sat for a few days after a few weeks of short trips and now
> the
>> weather is cold, damned cold. Could the flat battery cause false
>> messages
>> on the dash?
>>
>>
>
> Gearbox error message is standard for P38's with flat battery. I can't
> confirm the ABS message, but I wouldn't be surprised.
> Next it'll give you window switch error messages- no problem, once power
> is
> restored just reset by lowering & raising them all the way.
>
> Don't panic, she's just being chatty.
> Although in line with recent comments here, you've probably done something
> to offend her...
>
> "Musician is to DJ as Author is to Librarian"
>
>
Thanks

I didn't realise I'd bought a female car!!

I jumped her this morning (oo-er) and guess what - no Gearbox error.
I still got the ABS Fault but I'm not too worried yet, the ABS warning light
remains on and according to the book will go out upon reaching 5mph so when
DVLA sort me out we'll be going for a run - I'll check again after that.

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Mar 1, 2006

• #8

On or around Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:22:33 GMT, "Robbiedoo"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On or around Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:36:02 GMT, "Robbiedoo"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>I'm getting a little nervous. You know that feeling you got when you
>>>realised what makes Land Rover products so endearingly irritating
>>>
>>
>> is this a P38? You haven't left it in gear or something?
>>
>> The more I hear about P38s, the less I'm likely to buy one, TBH. It's
>> undoubtedly a fine car when in form, but I don't reckon I've got the right
>> attitude, the idea of something that can flatten the battery 'cos you left
>> it in gear...
>> --
>> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
>> "Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
>> Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
>
>Yes, It's a P38.
>
>It's Auto so I'm not sure about your left in gear theory, it's in P as
>usual.
>
>I've not heard that one before, I'll give it a charge and then see how it
>goes.

there was a thread about it last week. P38 auto on which the battery went
flat, all sorts of amusement. There was a suggestion that leaving it not in
P would keep one or more computers operating. 's like the thing about
Oregon weather stations only different.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria"
- Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno'

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Mar 1, 2006

• #9

Robbiedoo <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Thanks
>
> I didn't realise I'd bought a female car!!
>
> I jumped her this morning (oo-er) and guess what - no Gearbox error.
> I still got the ABS Fault but I'm not too worried yet, the ABS
> warning light remains on and according to the book will go out upon
> reaching 5mph so when DVLA sort me out we'll be going for a run -
> I'll check again after that.

ABS light is the same on my Disco 1

Lee

 

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Robbiedoo

Guest

• Mar 4, 2006

• #10

Well

DVLA called yesterday at around 13:30, that's the 7 working days almost to
the hour so I made the trip from home to Stretford and back in about 1 hr 40
to collect the docs (and that's not bad at all on a Friday afternoon).

I took her out for a spin and boy has it been worth the wait. Superb drive,
comfortable, effortless, acceptable performance (she's no sports car, but I
was quite impressed for a big heavy diesel). Everything I missed about the
Disco and more besides.....

I had to jump start her but the run out seems to have done the world of
good, I have seen no gearbox or ABS faults throughout the journey or during
the mandatory visiting friends to show her off. The windows needed
resetting again this morning so I guess there's still a battery issue
somewhere (could be the cold) but she started fine.

I'm happy as a pig in ****.

Regards to all

Robbiedoo


"Robbiedoo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm getting a little nervous. You know that feeling you got when you
> realised what makes Land Rover products so endearingly irritating
>
> DVLA have still not returned the documents, so I'm a bit fed up but I
> thought at least I can tinker a bit & be ready for when they arrive.
>
> So I fitted the CD player and I refitted the instrument panel surround
> because it had a bit of a rattle. How do you test the rattle? You start
> the engine and get the car vibrating don't you......
>
> ....unless your battery is flat, and you get an ABS error message, and you
> get a gearbox error message, and the engine spits a bit and then struggles
> to turn over.
>
> So, the question, before I start to panic (the normal procedure). A flat
> battery is unlucky, right? it could happen to anyone, particularly when
> the car has been sat for a few days after a few weeks of short trips and
> now the weather is cold, damned cold. Could the flat battery cause false
> messages on the dash?
>