Noisy alarm ;-)

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Fred Labrosse

Guest

• Feb 20, 2005

• #1

All,

On Friday, I took my 110 (2001 TD5) to the mechanics for a problem with the
master cylinder of the clutch.

Before that, arming the alarm was only displayed by 3 blinks of the
indicators, Since then, the indicators don't blink anymore but the alarm
sounds twice (VERY annoying). This seems to have happened after the guy
played a bit with the remote to show me how to use it! However, the guy
hasn't got a clue on how to revert back to the much better previous
behaviour.

Anybody got any idea?

Cheers,

Fred

The user manual I have doesn't mention anything apart from the 3 blinks.

 

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Kieran Turner

Guest

• Feb 20, 2005

• #2

"Fred Labrosse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Before that, arming the alarm was only displayed by 3 blinks of the
> indicators, Since then, the indicators don't blink anymore but the alarm
> sounds twice (VERY annoying). This seems to have happened after the guy
> played a bit with the remote to show me how to use it! However, the guy
> hasn't got a clue on how to revert back to the much better previous
> behaviour.

First a disclaimer: I don't know the answer

But now a suggestion - the manual (on mine, anyway) says that the three
flashes indicate a healthy battery in the plip, so perhaps the alternative
behaviour is just coincidental with the trip to the garage, and is in fact a
low battery warning? They're not expensive, so you could try a replacement
until you get a better answer than this!

K

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Feb 21, 2005

• #3

On or around Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:13:54 -0000, "Kieran Turner"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>"Fred Labrosse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Before that, arming the alarm was only displayed by 3 blinks of the
>> indicators, Since then, the indicators don't blink anymore but the alarm
>> sounds twice (VERY annoying). This seems to have happened after the guy
>> played a bit with the remote to show me how to use it! However, the guy
>> hasn't got a clue on how to revert back to the much better previous
>> behaviour.
>
>First a disclaimer: I don't know the answer
>
>But now a suggestion - the manual (on mine, anyway) says that the three
>flashes indicate a healthy battery in the plip, so perhaps the alternative
>behaviour is just coincidental with the trip to the garage, and is in fact a
>low battery warning? They're not expensive, so you could try a replacement
>until you get a better answer than this!

the batteries on the 300 TDi alarm give evidence of flatness by flashing the
lights once, for a long flash, rather than 3 short ones.


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young / In a world
of magnets and miracles / Our thoughts strayed constantly and without
boundary / The ringing of the Division bell had begun. Pink Floyd (1994)

 

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Landy Fred

Guest

• Feb 21, 2005

• #4

2 times alarm sound means you put the vehicle on alarm with a door open. In
this way you do not arm the movement sensor inside the car, which can be
usefull if you leave a dog in the car. At least this is the way the alarm
works for my defender
regards
Fred
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:13:54 -0000, "Kieran Turner"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >"Fred Labrosse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Before that, arming the alarm was only displayed by 3 blinks of the
> >> indicators, Since then, the indicators don't blink anymore but the
alarm
> >> sounds twice (VERY annoying). This seems to have happened after the
guy
> >> played a bit with the remote to show me how to use it! However, the
guy
> >> hasn't got a clue on how to revert back to the much better previous
> >> behaviour.
> >
> >First a disclaimer: I don't know the answer
> >
> >But now a suggestion - the manual (on mine, anyway) says that the three
> >flashes indicate a healthy battery in the plip, so perhaps the
alternative
> >behaviour is just coincidental with the trip to the garage, and is in
fact a
> >low battery warning? They're not expensive, so you could try a
replacement
> >until you get a better answer than this!
>
> the batteries on the 300 TDi alarm give evidence of flatness by flashing
the
> lights once, for a long flash, rather than 3 short ones.
>
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
> Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young / In a world
> of magnets and miracles / Our thoughts strayed constantly and without
> boundary / The ringing of the Division bell had begun. Pink Floyd (1994)

 

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Fred Labrosse

Guest

• Feb 21, 2005

• #5

Kieran Turner wrote:

> "Fred Labrosse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Before that, arming the alarm was only displayed by 3 blinks of the
>> indicators, Since then, the indicators don't blink anymore but the alarm
>> sounds twice (VERY annoying). This seems to have happened after the guy
>> played a bit with the remote to show me how to use it! However, the guy
>> hasn't got a clue on how to revert back to the much better previous
>> behaviour.
>
> First a disclaimer: I don't know the answer
>
> But now a suggestion - the manual (on mine, anyway) says that the three
> flashes indicate a healthy battery in the plip, so perhaps the alternative
> behaviour is just coincidental with the trip to the garage, and is in fact
> a low battery warning? They're not expensive, so you could try a
> replacement until you get a better answer than this!
>
> K

I tried with the other control and it does the same (doubt both batteries
would go low at the same time).

Thanks anyway.

Fred

 

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Fred Labrosse

Guest

• Feb 21, 2005

• #6

Landy Fred wrote:

> 2 times alarm sound means you put the vehicle on alarm with a door open.
> In this way you do not arm the movement sensor inside the car, which can
> be usefull if you leave a dog in the car. At least this is the way the
> alarm works for my defender

Does that include the hood? It's the only one that might not be closed
(since they probably had to move the switch when accessing the clutch
cylinder)?

I'll try to play with that.

Thanks.

Fred

 

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Phil Clarke

Guest

• Feb 21, 2005

• #7

I had the same problem on my defender 90. It was due to the bonnet
sensor being to low and not being pressed down fully when the bonnet was
shut (after I added checker plate to the winds).

A quick adjustment of the sensor position and it has worked ever since.

Thanks
Phil

T15ER R

Fred Labrosse wrote:
> All,
>
> On Friday, I took my 110 (2001 TD5) to the mechanics for a problem with the
> master cylinder of the clutch.
>
> Before that, arming the alarm was only displayed by 3 blinks of the
> indicators, Since then, the indicators don't blink anymore but the alarm
> sounds twice (VERY annoying). This seems to have happened after the guy
> played a bit with the remote to show me how to use it! However, the guy
> hasn't got a clue on how to revert back to the much better previous
> behaviour.
>
> Anybody got any idea?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred
>
> The user manual I have doesn't mention anything apart from the 3 blinks.
>

 

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Landy Fred

Guest

• Feb 21, 2005

• #8

indeed also under the hood is a sensor..
fred

"Fred Labrosse" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> Landy Fred wrote:
>
> > 2 times alarm sound means you put the vehicle on alarm with a door open.
> > In this way you do not arm the movement sensor inside the car, which can
> > be usefull if you leave a dog in the car. At least this is the way the
> > alarm works for my defender
>
> Does that include the hood? It's the only one that might not be closed
> (since they probably had to move the switch when accessing the clutch
> cylinder)?
>
> I'll try to play with that.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Fred
>
>

 

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Fred Labrosse

Guest

• Feb 22, 2005

• #9

Phil Clarke wrote:

> I had the same problem on my defender 90. It was due to the bonnet
> sensor being to low and not being pressed down fully when the bonnet was
> shut (after I added checker plate to the winds).
>
> A quick adjustment of the sensor position and it has worked ever since.
>

That was it. Fixed it.

Cheers,

Fred

 

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Fred Labrosse

Guest

• Feb 22, 2005

• #10

Landy Fred wrote:

> 2 times alarm sound means you put the vehicle on alarm with a door open.
> In this way you do not arm the movement sensor inside the car, which can
> be usefull if you leave a dog in the car. At least this is the way the
> alarm works for my defender

This was indeed the case. This is however not documented in the doc I have
<http://www.landrover.ee/est/files/manuals/cars/defender/Land Rover
Defender User Manual 00MY TD5-TDI-V8.pdf>. Is that described in a more
recent version (2001)? I'm asking because this behaviour (2 horns when a
door is open) is not described and the inside protection seems to be not
working, at least following the description I have (on by default, off if
alarm is armed with an open door, no sound signal). Is there anything to
do to explicitly arm the inside protection?

Cheers,

Fred

 

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Fred Labrosse

Guest

• Feb 22, 2005

• #11

Fred Labrosse wrote:

>
> This was indeed the case. This is however not documented in the doc I
> have <http://www.landrover.ee/est/files/manuals/cars/defender/Land Rover
> Defender User Manual 00MY TD5-TDI-V8.pdf>.

Oops, sorry (&^%*&% spaces in URL's). Top link at
<http://www.landrover.ee/est/varia/downloads/cars.htm>.

Fred

 

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Landy Fred

Guest

• Feb 23, 2005

• #12

Hi Fred,

How it works is in section 2 'Locks & Alarms' on page 13, 14 and 15 of the
following manual:
http://www.landrover.ee/est/files/manuals/cars/defender/Land Rover Defen
der%20User%20Manual%2000MY%20TD5-TDI-V8.pdf

regards
Fred

"Fred Labrosse" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> Landy Fred wrote:
>
> > 2 times alarm sound means you put the vehicle on alarm with a door open.
> > In this way you do not arm the movement sensor inside the car, which can
> > be usefull if you leave a dog in the car. At least this is the way the
> > alarm works for my defender
>
> This was indeed the case. This is however not documented in the doc I
have
> <http://www.landrover.ee/est/files/manuals/cars/defender/Land Rover
> Defender User Manual 00MY TD5-TDI-V8.pdf>. Is that described in a more
> recent version (2001)? I'm asking because this behaviour (2 horns when a
> door is open) is not described and the inside protection seems to be not
> working, at least following the description I have (on by default, off if
> alarm is armed with an open door, no sound signal). Is there anything to
> do to explicitly arm the inside protection?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred
>

 

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Hirsty's

Guest

• Feb 23, 2005

• #13

Used to have a Renault savanna with a Simba alarm and this change could be
chosen by setting 4 switches under some little rubber plugs on the alarm
case.


"Fred Labrosse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> All,
>
> On Friday, I took my 110 (2001 TD5) to the mechanics for a problem with
the
> master cylinder of the clutch.
>
> Before that, arming the alarm was only displayed by 3 blinks of the
> indicators, Since then, the indicators don't blink anymore but the alarm
> sounds twice (VERY annoying). This seems to have happened after the guy
> played a bit with the remote to show me how to use it! However, the guy
> hasn't got a clue on how to revert back to the much better previous
> behaviour.
>
> Anybody got any idea?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred
>
> The user manual I have doesn't mention anything apart from the 3 blinks.
>

 

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Fred Labrosse

Guest

• Feb 23, 2005

• #14

Landy Fred wrote:

> Hi Fred,
>
> How it works is in section 2 'Locks & Alarms' on page 13, 14 and 15 of the
> following manual:
>
http://www.landrover.ee/est/files/manuals/cars/defender/Land Rover Defen
> der%20User%20Manual%2000MY%20TD5-TDI-V8.pdf
>

This is the same as the one I referenced in my message. It doesn't say
anything about the alarm going twice is armed with a door or bonnet opened
(only says the indicators will not flash and the interior protection will
not be activated). Moreover, my interior protection does not work, even
when arming the alarm with all doors closed (including the bonnet now). So
either this is a deficient interior protection or there is something else
not documented in this manual (mine being a 2001, not a 2000).

Thanks anyway.

Fred

 

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Dave Liquorice

Guest

• Feb 23, 2005

• #15

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:22:28 +0000, Fred Labrosse wrote:

> Moreover, my interior protection does not work, even when arming the
> alarm with all doors closed (including the bonnet now).

Well interior protection can be a option. Is it physically there?
And on the Disco II at least the interior stuff is only set if you use
the remote. Key in lock doesn't set it, so you can lock a dog or child
in.

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Feb 23, 2005

• #16

On or around Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:38:46 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:22:28 +0000, Fred Labrosse wrote:
>
>> Moreover, my interior protection does not work, even when arming the
>> alarm with all doors closed (including the bonnet now).
>
>Well interior protection can be a option. Is it physically there?
>And on the Disco II at least the interior stuff is only set if you use
>the remote. Key in lock doesn't set it, so you can lock a dog or child
>in.

same on the 300 TDi here. key in lock only arms the perimeter.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588

 

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Fred Labrosse

Guest

• Feb 24, 2005

• #17

Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:38:46 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:22:28 +0000, Fred Labrosse wrote:
>>
>>> Moreover, my interior protection does not work, even when arming the
>>> alarm with all doors closed (including the bonnet now).
>>
>>Well interior protection can be a option. Is it physically there?
>>And on the Disco II at least the interior stuff is only set if you use
>>the remote. Key in lock doesn't set it, so you can lock a dog or child
>>in.
>
> same on the 300 TDi here. key in lock only arms the perimeter.
>

Key in lock doesn't do anything but locking the door (central locking as
apparently been introduced in 2002 in Def's).

Yes, the sensors are there and apparently wired in (don't know where the
other end of the wires is though ;-).

Fred

P.S. Funny, I didn't see Dave's message. It seems I'm missing some
messages...