New Products: Koolant, Kleenant, Lubricant

Paul Everett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Regarding one of your other posts I would hope you can see the
> difference between an odd 5Kbyte on topic advert from someone who posts
> frequent helpful posts to the group and "the odd Gb or so" you mention.
> A factor of 200,000 in size is the first thing that jumps to mind...

Ah, someone not familiar with Dickens.

"It was only a little baby."

--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:20:05 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I bet the LR group charter at least has a proviso for on-topic adverts,
>provided they're not repeated. the normal wording is not more than once a
>month, I suspect.

There's some differences between the 'Big 8' hierarchies which
includes the general sewer known as 'alt' (with some obvious
exclusions, obviously!) and the uk.* hierarchy. In general the uk
usenet space is far better managed and maintained. The Charter for
groups such as uk.rec.cars.4x4 will be proposed via an RfD (Request
for Discussion) and may or may not include 'advertising is strictly
forbidden' statements or, as you say above, welcome on topic
advertising so long as certain conventions are followed (prefixing a
subject with Ad: is one example).

Changing the Charter for groups in uk.* is also via an RfD and any
changes will generally be put to a vote - in some cases an obvious and
logical change may be subject to the Fast Track process, minor
administrative changes can be made, after putting before the uk usenet
committee, 'on the fly', although this is generally not needed.

My personal feeling is that the uk hierarchy works better than any
other in this respect and structurally represents the users of uk
usenet in a meaningful way - divest of the somewhat 'pointed' politics
of alt creation.

Anyone who's interested in the uk hierarchy may like to see
www.usenet.org.uk and possibly subscribe to uk.net.news.config and
uk.net.news.management - although beware, as these groups can
occasionally appear, incorrectly IMO, to be a bit of a clique.

So Mother" <"@ {m} @ was, like

> If you want to advertise, why not use the groups that
>> have the word "advert" or "adverts" in their name?
>
> Think about this for a moment:
>
> David Round is a regular contributor here. He is also - aside of any
> business concerns, a keen enthusiast and gives freely of his time,
> unpaid, in many envirm=onments. He does also run a little business
> Llama 4x4 - and will occasionally post - as here, that he has
> something others here may be interested in. This is a sort of
> infotisement, or adformation, and I don't find it an issue.
>

Agreed. Provided that the ratio of helpful contribution to advertising is
reasonable, I don't have a problem. David's a nice guy (I've met him) and
he contributes freely to this NG - the odd "I can supply one of these at
£xx" is not in any way a problem. On the other hand, people who post
commercial ads every couple of weeks and never contribute to the group in
between need to be shot, slowly, IMHO.

--

Rich

Nullum Gratuitum Prandium

"Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:23:49 -0000, "David_LLAMA4x4"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Not to my knowledge but it seems an ideal vehicle to try it on - the
>
> Indeed - as I have now managed to restore the 'normal' running temp in
> Grumble by way of putting a viscous fan back in, I'd be interested in
> how well it copes.
>
> >cooling system works but is on the edge and a little help might be
handy...
> > Email me and we may be able to sort out a sample for you....
>
> I may be interested in writing an independent evaluation if you want
> to do some horsetrading.
>

Email me with ap[ostal address to send a boyyle out to you. We have just
had a very positive result with it in a Pug 205 rally car... it will be
interesting to see if the 101 benefits in the same way......

David
LLAMA 4x4
www.llama4x4.co.uk

On or around Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:44:11 +0000 (UTC), "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

> On the other hand, people who post
>commercial ads every couple of weeks and never contribute to the group in
>between need to be shot, slowly, IMHO.

with a special low-powered gun?

Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:44:11 +0000 (UTC), "Richard Brookman"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> On the other hand, people who post
>>commercial ads every couple of weeks and never contribute to the group in
>>between need to be shot, slowly, IMHO.
>
> with a special low-powered gun?

No. A shot blaster. In 5 second bursts with 15 seconds in between.

P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?

Rich may I propose using salt instead of shot blasting beads???

Take care
Pantelis


"Paul S. Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> > On or around Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:44:11 +0000 (UTC), "Richard Brookman"
> > <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >
> >> On the other hand, people who post
> >>commercial ads every couple of weeks and never contribute to the group
in
> >>between need to be shot, slowly, IMHO.
> >
> > with a special low-powered gun?
>
> No. A shot blaster. In 5 second bursts with 15 seconds in between.
>
> P.
> --
> If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
> Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:37:48 +0200, Pantelis Giamarellos wrote:

> Rich may I propose using salt instead of shot blasting beads???

Or alternate the loads...

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Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

So Pantelis Giamarellos was, like

> > On or around Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:44:11 +0000 (UTC), "Richard
>>> Brookman" <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>> On the other hand, people who post
>>>> commercial ads every couple of weeks and never contribute to the
>>>> group in between need to be shot, slowly, IMHO.
>>>
>>> with a special low-powered gun?
>>
>> No. A shot blaster. In 5 second bursts with 15 seconds in between.
>>
>>

Rich may I propose using salt instead of shot blasting beads???


Sure. Packed in the cartridge with a helping of tabasco sauce.

--

Rich

Nullum Gratuitum Prandium

Richard Brookman wrote:

> So Pantelis Giamarellos was, like
>
>> > On or around Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:44:11 +0000 (UTC), "Richard
>>>> Brookman" <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand, people who post
>>>>> commercial ads every couple of weeks and never contribute to the
>>>>> group in between need to be shot, slowly, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> with a special low-powered gun?
>>>
>>> No. A shot blaster. In 5 second bursts with 15 seconds in between.
>>>
>>>
>
> Rich may I propose using salt instead of shot blasting beads???
>
>
> Sure. Packed in the cartridge with a helping of tabasco sauce.
>

S/tabasco/Daves Ultimate Insanity/

http://www.davesgourmet.com/insauces.html

P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?

Sounds pretty much like the stuff I use for preparing my jerky.....

Take care
Pantelis

"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So Pantelis Giamarellos was, like
>
> > > On or around Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:44:11 +0000 (UTC), "Richard
> >>> Brookman" <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >>>
> >>>> On the other hand, people who post
> >>>> commercial ads every couple of weeks and never contribute to the
> >>>> group in between need to be shot, slowly, IMHO.
> >>>
> >>> with a special low-powered gun?
> >>
> >> No. A shot blaster. In 5 second bursts with 15 seconds in between.
> >>
> >>
>
> Rich may I propose using salt instead of shot blasting beads???
>
>
> Sure. Packed in the cartridge with a helping of tabasco sauce.
>
> --
>
> Rich
>
> Nullum Gratuitum Prandium
>
>

Paul Everett <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Steve Firth wrote:
>
> > Which product do you recommend for removing those irritating greasy
> > spammers from newsgroups?

Two pieces of advice from David have saved friends a fair sum of money
and a lot of trouble, his occasional product suggestion has saved many
people cost and time spent on trial and error . . . I'm all for his
helpful 'advertorial'
and will make my own mind up about its value thanks.

Weird thing is that Steve Firth's postings are entirely absent from
the threads I'm reading from Google so perhaps God is on David's side!

Ta, Lurch