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Iva bigun

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Just thuogh would say hello to every one:-
I have a series2 lwb with a big perkins a Range clasic and a td5 disco. My
favorit of course being sarah (the series 2)sad i know


 

"Iva bigun" <****@me.please> wrote in message
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> Just thuogh would say hello to every one:-
> I have a series2 lwb with a big perkins a Range clasic and a td5 disco.
My
> favorit of course being sarah (the series 2)sad i know



The old troll meter's
twitching..............................................


 

"Iva bigun" <****@me.please> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just thuogh would say hello to every one:-
> I have a series2 lwb with a big perkins a Range clasic and a td5 disco.
My
> favorit of course being sarah (the series 2)sad i know
>
>

How big is the perkins?


 
On or around Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:52:12 +1100, "Samuel"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Iva bigun" <****@me.please> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Just thuogh would say hello to every one:-
>> I have a series2 lwb with a big perkins a Range clasic and a td5 disco.
>My
>> favorit of course being sarah (the series 2)sad i know
>>
>>

I recall someone once put a 6354 in a rangie, WTF the for I have no idea.
--
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"You praise the firm restraint with which they write -_
I'm with you there, of course: They use the snaffle and the bit
alright, but where's the bloody horse? - Roy Campbell (1902-1957)
 


Austin Shackles wrote:

> I recall someone once put a 6354 in a rangie, WTF the for I have no idea.

Friend of mine has the 3.9 Perkins in a Stage One stawag.....awesome !!!
Erik-Jan.
 
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:20:56 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:52:12 +1100, "Samuel"
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>"Iva bigun" <****@me.please> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Just thuogh would say hello to every one:-
>>> I have a series2 lwb with a big perkins a Range clasic and a td5 disco.
>>My
>>> favorit of course being sarah (the series 2)sad i know
>>>
>>>
>
>I recall someone once put a 6354 in a rangie, WTF the for I have no idea.

Its a little oversized at nearly 6 litres, but i bet its a lot
smoother and quieter than a 4.203, which seems to be the common option
to facilitate the snaping of halfshafts in a series.

Alex
 

"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:20:56 +0000, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On or around Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:52:12 +1100, "Samuel"
> ><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >
> >>
> >>"Iva bigun" <****@me.please> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>> Just thuogh would say hello to every one:-
> >>> I have a series2 lwb with a big perkins a Range clasic and a td5
disco.
> >>My
> >>> favorit of course being sarah (the series 2)sad i know
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >I recall someone once put a 6354 in a rangie, WTF the for I have no idea.
>
> Its a little oversized at nearly 6 litres, but i bet its a lot
> smoother and quieter than a 4.203, which seems to be the common option
> to facilitate the snaping of halfshafts in a series.
>
> Alex
no sorry gang it is only a 4203 I thought that was big and half
shaft/gearbox snaping enough


 
On or around Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:38:11 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>
>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> I recall someone once put a 6354 in a rangie, WTF the for I have no idea.
>
>Friend of mine has the 3.9 Perkins in a Stage One stawag.....awesome !!!
>Erik-Jan.

slightly more sensible, I suppose. The 6354 is bloody big and heavy - about
5.6 litres.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to
a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
from Mein Kampf, Ch 10
 
On or around Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:42:42 +0000 (UTC), "James"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:20:56 +0000, Austin Shackles
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On or around Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:52:12 +1100, "Samuel"
>> ><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Iva bigun" <****@me.please> wrote in message
>> >>news:[email protected]...
>> >>> Just thuogh would say hello to every one:-
>> >>> I have a series2 lwb with a big perkins a Range clasic and a td5
>disco.
>> >>My
>> >>> favorit of course being sarah (the series 2)sad i know
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >I recall someone once put a 6354 in a rangie, WTF the for I have no idea.
>>
>> Its a little oversized at nearly 6 litres, but i bet its a lot
>> smoother and quieter than a 4.203, which seems to be the common option
>> to facilitate the snaping of halfshafts in a series.
>>
>> Alex
>no sorry gang it is only a 4203 I thought that was big and half
>shaft/gearbox snaping enough
>
actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used
sensibly, is OK.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
Robert Frost (1874-1963) from Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening
 


Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> >
> actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used
> sensibly, is OK.

Is there an on-line Perkins reference somewhere. Engine type's /
specifications?
Erik-Jan.
 

>>> >I recall someone once put a 6354 in a rangie, WTF the for I have no idea.
>>>
>>> Its a little oversized at nearly 6 litres, but i bet its a lot
>>> smoother and quieter than a 4.203, which seems to be the common option
>>> to facilitate the snaping of halfshafts in a series.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>no sorry gang it is only a 4203 I thought that was big and half
>>shaft/gearbox snaping enough
>>
>actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used
>sensibly, is OK.

The amount of torque available from a 2.25 petrol (115 ft.lb) is more
than enough to snap a series halfshaft if used incorrectly. The amount
of torque available from a 4.203 is enough to snap a halfshaft without
doing anything too silly, and enough to render cogs in the gearbox
completely smooth if used in anger. The series gearbox just wasn't
designed for such torque, it is after all based on the old Series 1
gearbox for a 2.0 IOE engine. They had to uprate certain parts to cope
with the 2.25 petrol anyway. Early II/IIa boxes had a tendancy to
wear/snap layshafts.

Data from Perkins, current engine range

4-pots
(old 4.203)
3.3litre N.A 63bhp@2600rpm 148ft.lb@1600rpm
3.3litre Turbo 80bhp@2600rpm 187ft.lb@1600rpm
(old 4.236)
4.0litre N.A 85bhp@2600rpm 207ft.lb@1400rpm
4.0litre Turbo 122bhp@1800rpm (Static Engine)
(old 4.269)
4.4litre N.A 78-86bhp@2400rpm 199-227ft.lb@1200rpm
4.4litre Turbo 93-114bhp@2300 275-309ft.lb@1400rpm
4.4litre T-Interc. 99-150bhp@2200rpm 310-406ft.lb@1400rpm

6-pot
(old 6.354)
6.0litre Turbo 175bhp@2500rpm 512ft.lb@1400rpm

Not all these figures will make sense, a large percentage of Perkins'
engine manufacture is designed for static/genset work, those that are
designed for road/off-road use can have different specifications and
setup.

Alex



 
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:49:46 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>> >
>> actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used
>> sensibly, is OK.
>
>Is there an on-line Perkins reference somewhere. Engine type's /
>specifications?
>Erik-Jan.

On Perkins website, yes, but it's not meant for mobile engines, it's
for static engines/generator sets. If you see my other post earlier in
the thread, i've tried to collect the information releveant to the
engines we've been discussing. Not complete, by any means, and refers
to the current range of engines, not the old ones, but it will give
you a rough guide. The only one i can't find any relevant data on is
the 6.354 (6litre) without a turbo, as perkins no longer seem to do
this specification.

Alex
 
On or around Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:49:46 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>
>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>> >
>> actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used
>> sensibly, is OK.
>
>Is there an on-line Perkins reference somewhere. Engine type's /
>specifications?
>Erik-Jan.

perkins numbers are easy: in the above, it's 4 cylinders, 203 cubic inches.
The 6354 is 6 cylinder, 354in. there was a baby one, 3152 or something, but
you don't normally find that in Landies. 4236 is about 4.3l and has a lot
more torque than a series 2.25, and that's why the half shafts suffer.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Remember that to change your mind and follow him who sets you right
is to be none the less free than you were before."
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121-180), from Meditations, VIII.16
 


Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> On or around Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:49:46 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >
> >
> >Austin Shackles wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used
> >> sensibly, is OK.
> >
> >Is there an on-line Perkins reference somewhere. Engine type's /
> >specifications?
> >Erik-Jan.
>
> perkins numbers are easy: in the above, it's 4 cylinders, 203 cubic inches.
> The 6354 is 6 cylinder, 354in. there was a baby one, 3152 or something, but
> you don't normally find that in Landies. 4236 is about 4.3l and has a lot
> more torque than a series 2.25, and that's why the half shafts suffer.


Thanks,
Erik-Jan.
 
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:35:38 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:49:46 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>
>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used
>>> sensibly, is OK.
>>
>>Is there an on-line Perkins reference somewhere. Engine type's /
>>specifications?
>>Erik-Jan.
>
>perkins numbers are easy: in the above, it's 4 cylinders, 203 cubic inches.
>The 6354 is 6 cylinder, 354in. there was a baby one, 3152 or something, but
>you don't normally find that in Landies. 4236 is about 4.3l and has a lot
>more torque than a series 2.25, and that's why the half shafts suffer.

They still do 3-cylinder engines, in fact the 3.3 litre is currently
available as either a 4-cylinder or a 3-cylinder.

Alex
 
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:21:45 +0000, Alex <[email protected]>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:35:38 +0000, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On or around Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:49:46 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
>><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used
>>>> sensibly, is OK.
>>>
>>>Is there an on-line Perkins reference somewhere. Engine type's /
>>>specifications?
>>>Erik-Jan.
>>
>>perkins numbers are easy: in the above, it's 4 cylinders, 203 cubic inches.
>>The 6354 is 6 cylinder, 354in. there was a baby one, 3152 or something, but
>>you don't normally find that in Landies. 4236 is about 4.3l and has a lot
>>more torque than a series 2.25, and that's why the half shafts suffer.
>
>They still do 3-cylinder engines, in fact the 3.3 litre is currently
>available as either a 4-cylinder or a 3-cylinder.
>
>Alex

They also do some nice 3 pot engines with less than 1litre capacity,
mostly for starting the bigger plant engines. Friend who works there
can buy them for £100 because they fail test on gaskets and stuff.....

1 litre diesel engine, £100
6.0 kva alternator from machine mart £270.19

I feel a project coming on....
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Chairman, Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body shell, being bobbed and modded.....
 
On or around Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:59:20 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:21:45 +0000, Alex <[email protected]>
>scribbled the following nonsense:
>
>>On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:35:38 +0000, Austin Shackles
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On or around Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:49:46 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
>>><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> actually, it was the 4236 that tends to do half-shafts. The 4203, used
>>>>> sensibly, is OK.
>>>>
>>>>Is there an on-line Perkins reference somewhere. Engine type's /
>>>>specifications?
>>>>Erik-Jan.
>>>
>>>perkins numbers are easy: in the above, it's 4 cylinders, 203 cubic inches.
>>>The 6354 is 6 cylinder, 354in. there was a baby one, 3152 or something, but
>>>you don't normally find that in Landies. 4236 is about 4.3l and has a lot
>>>more torque than a series 2.25, and that's why the half shafts suffer.
>>
>>They still do 3-cylinder engines, in fact the 3.3 litre is currently
>>available as either a 4-cylinder or a 3-cylinder.
>>
>>Alex
>
>They also do some nice 3 pot engines with less than 1litre capacity,
>mostly for starting the bigger plant engines. Friend who works there
>can buy them for £100 because they fail test on gaskets and stuff.....
>
>1 litre diesel engine, £100
>6.0 kva alternator from machine mart £270.19
>
>I feel a project coming on....

hmmm. thassa point - I could do with a decent-sized standby genny.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Once, when the secrets of science were the jealously guarded property of
a small priesthood, the common man had no hope of mastering their arcane
complexities. Years of study in musty classrooms were prerequisite to
obtaining even a dim, incoherent knowledge of science.
Today, all that has changed: a dim, incoherent knowledge of science is
available to anyone. - Tom Weller, Science Made Stupid, 1986
 
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