MOT again....

Just taken the rangie in for the re-test and a different guy looked at it.

He has only gone and found more things to do!

1 - Front to Rear brakepipes. Can you get these pre-bent? Or is it a case of
finding someone local to make them? Are they hard to fit?

2 - Rear A-Frame joint - Looks like an hour or so job. Am i right in
thinking the joint is a sealed unit?

3 - Play in swivel housing on NSF. How many shims are there supposed to be?
Just so i know when i strip it at the weekend!

Find it hard to believe that the 1st guy missed the above....

Never mind. Wont be going back there again!

Also, I've got an oil leak - well a new one. Its coming out of the geabox.
I'll try to explain as ive left my camera at work.
There is a hole in the bottom of the gearbox, along a bit from the breather
hole, kinda in the middle. - Its coming from there. Is it detrimental, and
how can i stop it.

Thanks,

Mark.
87 RR V8 EFI.

In message <[email protected]>
"Mark Solesbury" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just taken the rangie in for the re-test and a different guy looked at it.
>
> He has only gone and found more things to do!
>
> 1 - Front to Rear brakepipes. Can you get these pre-bent? Or is it a case of
> finding someone local to make them? Are they hard to fit?

Not hard to fit as such, but a pain in the bum. The Genine pars ones
are pre-bent, but they are then coiled up. It's probably easier to
bend new ones at they are fitted.

>
> 2 - Rear A-Frame joint - Looks like an hour or so job. Am i right in
> thinking the joint is a sealed unit?

It is - ANR1799

>
> 3 - Play in swivel housing on NSF. How many shims are there supposed to be?
> Just so i know when i strip it at the weekend!

There's no fixed number/thickness.

>
> Find it hard to believe that the 1st guy missed the above....

Call me a cynic but the two jobs above are ones that DIY'ers tend to
avoid doing themselves.........

>
> Never mind. Wont be going back there again!
>
> Also, I've got an oil leak - well a new one. Its coming out of the geabox.
> I'll try to explain as ive left my camera at work.
> There is a hole in the bottom of the gearbox, along a bit from the breather
> hole, kinda in the middle. - Its coming from there. Is it detrimental, and
> how can i stop it.

I'll pass on that without being able to see it!

>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark.
> 87 RR V8 EFI.
>
>

Richard

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>
> Also, I've got an oil leak - well a new one. Its coming out of the geabox.
> I'll try to explain as ive left my camera at work.
> There is a hole in the bottom of the gearbox, along a bit from the
breather
> hole, kinda in the middle. - Its coming from there. Is it detrimental, and
> how can i stop it.

Scuse the dodge pic... Camera Phone....

http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/random_****e/image014.html

Its coming out of the hole in the middle.

"Mark Solesbury" <mark_solesbury@_____tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
>> Also, I've got an oil leak - well a new one. Its coming out of the
>> geabox.
>> I'll try to explain as ive left my camera at work.
>> There is a hole in the bottom of the gearbox, along a bit from the
> breather
>> hole, kinda in the middle. - Its coming from there. Is it detrimental,
>> and
>> how can i stop it.
>
> Scuse the dodge pic... Camera Phone....
>
> http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/random_****e/image014.html
>
> Its coming out of the hole in the middle.

Which is the bellhousing area. so you need to identify the oil type. If
engine oil, then it's the crank rear oil seal. If gearbox oil, then it's
either the front bearing cover plate or the input shaft seal.
Badger.

"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bbe124b44d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> "Mark Solesbury" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just taken the rangie in for the re-test and a different guy looked at
>> it.
>>
>> He has only gone and found more things to do!
>>
>> 1 - Front to Rear brakepipes. Can you get these pre-bent? Or is it a case
>> of
>> finding someone local to make them? Are they hard to fit?
>
> Not hard to fit as such, but a pain in the bum. The Genine pars ones
> are pre-bent, but they are then coiled up. It's probably easier to
> bend new ones at they are fitted.
>
>>
>> 2 - Rear A-Frame joint - Looks like an hour or so job. Am i right in
>> thinking the joint is a sealed unit?
>
> It is - ANR1799
>
>>
>> 3 - Play in swivel housing on NSF. How many shims are there supposed to
>> be?
>> Just so i know when i strip it at the weekend!
>
> There's no fixed number/thickness.
>
>>
>> Find it hard to believe that the 1st guy missed the above....
>
> Call me a cynic but the two jobs above are ones that DIY'ers tend to
> avoid doing themselves.........

Chickens!! All 3 are relatively easy jobs, just need a little thought and
planning. Which 2 of the 3 were you referring to, anyway?
Badger.

In message <[email protected]>, Mark Solesbury
<[email protected]> writes
>Just taken the rangie in for the re-test and a different guy looked at it.
>
>He has only gone and found more things to do!
>
>1 - Front to Rear brakepipes. Can you get these pre-bent? Or is it a case of
>finding someone local to make them? Are they hard to fit?
>

You can buy them ready made from LR and others or have them made up
using kunifer pipe


>2 - Rear A-Frame joint - Looks like an hour or so job. Am i right in
>thinking the joint is a sealed unit?

Yes a sealed unit as for being an hours work....think again. I have done
Loads ( it's my job) If every thing is going right it can be done in
less than an hour, But on an '87 RRC I can assure you that it won't go
right. And really you should leave it to someone who know what they are
doing. I am not trying to be negative with that comment just helpful !
It will be money well spent.


>
>3 - Play in swivel housing on NSF. How many shims are there supposed to be?
>Just so i know when i strip it at the weekend!


No two cars are the same and it is a matter of feel to get it right.



>Also, I've got an oil leak - well a new one. Its coming out of the geabox.
>I'll try to explain as ive left my camera at work.
>There is a hole in the bottom of the gearbox, along a bit from the breather
>hole, kinda in the middle. - Its coming from there. Is it detrimental, and
>how can i stop it.



If the oil is black it is coming from the rear main oil seal it is not
detrimental at all unless it is a manual then in very bad cases it can
mess up the clutch. If it is red then it is coming from the gearbox
(sometimes difficult to tell oil colour I know) now you know about the
leak it is not detrimental because you can check and top up the level.
Either way the box will have to come out to fix.

Good luck
--
Marc Draper

www.mdeng.co.uk

>
> If the oil is black it is coming from the rear main oil seal it is not
> detrimental at all unless it is a manual then in very bad cases it can
> mess up the clutch. If it is red then it is coming from the gearbox
> (sometimes difficult to tell oil colour I know) now you know about the
> leak it is not detrimental because you can check and top up the level.
> Either way the box will have to come out to fix.
>

Unless of course it's neither black nor white in which case it may be clutch
fluid from a leaky slave cylinder, even easier, box doesn't have to come out
for that. Easy to check, see if it washes off your finger with just water,
'cos brake fluid does just that!

HTH Martin

"Mark Solesbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just taken the rangie in for the re-test and a different guy looked at it.
>
> He has only gone and found more things to do!
>
> 1 - Front to Rear brakepipes. Can you get these pre-bent? Or is it a case
of
> finding someone local to make them? Are they hard to fit?
>
I'll just answer that one I sold Peggy my Rangie two years ago - I am still
waiting for the brake pipe I ordered from the dealer 6 months before that
but I wont blame them! After waiting a week the parts manager phoned LR
parts while I was there and they promised next truck I phoned them 2 days
later and they promised me yes next truck and the next week we both phoned
LR parts and were promised etc etc in the end I had only 3 out of the 4
pipes I ordered. (thank god for pre mot tests)

So no dont bother get a flareing kit a roll of kunifer brake pipe and do
your own.
A) its a lot cheaper one pipe on its own (the bends one down the wing)was
about £15
B) kunifer is lovely to work with -the front to rear section is not to
extreme to bend - the nasties are down the inner wing and through the
bulkhead fitting , a real swine to get past the manifold, cables etc.
C) if you haven't already replaced it the fuel pipe gets nasty over the rear
part of the chassis so the leftover kunifer will come in handy - saying that
I can't remember if its larger bore than the brake lines
buy some clips while you are at it they get brittle and will snap when you
try to remove the old pipes

Derek

>
> Also, I've got an oil leak - well a new one. Its coming out of the geabox.
> I'll try to explain as ive left my camera at work.
> There is a hole in the bottom of the gearbox, along a bit from the
breather
> hole, kinda in the middle. - Its coming from there. Is it detrimental, and
> how can i stop it.

Scuse the dodge pic... Camera Phone....

http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/random_****e/image014.html

Its coming out of the hole in the middle.

In message <[email protected]>, Mark Solesbury
<[email protected]> writes
>Just taken the rangie in for the re-test and a different guy looked at it.
>
>He has only gone and found more things to do!
>
>1 - Front to Rear brakepipes. Can you get these pre-bent? Or is it a case of
>finding someone local to make them? Are they hard to fit?
>

You can buy them ready made from LR and others or have them made up
using kunifer pipe


>2 - Rear A-Frame joint - Looks like an hour or so job. Am i right in
>thinking the joint is a sealed unit?

Yes a sealed unit as for being an hours work....think again. I have done
Loads ( it's my job) If every thing is going right it can be done in
less than an hour, But on an '87 RRC I can assure you that it won't go
right. And really you should leave it to someone who know what they are
doing. I am not trying to be negative with that comment just helpful !
It will be money well spent.


>
>3 - Play in swivel housing on NSF. How many shims are there supposed to be?
>Just so i know when i strip it at the weekend!


No two cars are the same and it is a matter of feel to get it right.



>Also, I've got an oil leak - well a new one. Its coming out of the geabox.
>I'll try to explain as ive left my camera at work.
>There is a hole in the bottom of the gearbox, along a bit from the breather
>hole, kinda in the middle. - Its coming from there. Is it detrimental, and
>how can i stop it.



If the oil is black it is coming from the rear main oil seal it is not
detrimental at all unless it is a manual then in very bad cases it can
mess up the clutch. If it is red then it is coming from the gearbox
(sometimes difficult to tell oil colour I know) now you know about the
leak it is not detrimental because you can check and top up the level.
Either way the box will have to come out to fix.

Good luck
--
Marc Draper

www.mdeng.co.uk