mallory twin points dizzy

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Dave R

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Hi all,

I have a mallort twin point in my v8 ex compe safari racer and am going
to attempt to give it a service before it falls apart entirely. Does
anyone know how to set these up, and what parts are available. I would
like to think that the set up informatino in standard but I not going
to even bother opening it all up until I have all the relevant
information. Hope someone can help. Any general V8 tuning info would
also be greatly recieved. I used it for a trial last weekend and the
thing would just die away and stall about 500rpm lower than expected.
she also "splutters" when you bury the throttle from low revs.

Dave

 
On 1 Mar 2006 03:32:00 -0800, "Dave R" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have a mallort twin point in my v8 ex compe safari racer and am going
>to attempt to give it a service before it falls apart entirely. Does
>anyone know how to set these up, and what parts are available. I would
>like to think that the set up informatino in standard but I not going
>to even bother opening it all up until I have all the relevant
>information. Hope someone can help. Any general V8 tuning info would
>also be greatly recieved. I used it for a trial last weekend and the
>thing would just die away and stall about 500rpm lower than expected.
>she also "splutters" when you bury the throttle from low revs.
>
>Dave


Simon Isaacs has got one... :(

When it was mine, google and the like didn't turn up a whole lot. in
the end Warren worked it out the hard way I think - trial, error and
common-sense.

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"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1 Mar 2006 03:32:00 -0800, "Dave R" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I have a mallort twin point in my v8 ex compe safari racer and am going
>>to attempt to give it a service before it falls apart entirely. Does
>>anyone know how to set these up, and what parts are available. I would
>>like to think that the set up informatino in standard but I not going
>>to even bother opening it all up until I have all the relevant
>>information. Hope someone can help. Any general V8 tuning info would
>>also be greatly recieved. I used it for a trial last weekend and the
>>thing would just die away and stall about 500rpm lower than expected.
>>she also "splutters" when you bury the throttle from low revs.
>>
>>Dave

>
> Simon Isaacs has got one... :(
>
> When it was mine, google and the like didn't turn up a whole lot. in
> the end Warren worked it out the hard way I think - trial, error and
> common-sense.


IMO, the only thing it really has going for it is the ability to adjust the
total mechanical advance, other than that my experiences suggest it is a
relatively troublesome piece of kit with high maintenance issues. An
acquaintance of mine had one on his hillrally racer - and went out at the
first service on the Scottish Hillrally a few years back due to it's
failure. I believe he kicked it mercilessly around his workshop on the
following Monday morning....!!! Needless to say he now runs the dizzy that
is my personal favourite choice, the standard Lucas DLM8 with the amp module
on the side of the dizzy body. I have found these dizzy's to be very
reliable over the years and fit them to all my engines wherever possible.
RPI will no doubt help if you open your wallet, I believe they hold stocks
of spares for them, but I'd personally fit a DLM8 and forget it.
Badger.


 
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:27:02 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>
>"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 1 Mar 2006 03:32:00 -0800, "Dave R" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>I have a mallort twin point in my v8 ex compe safari racer and am going
>>>to attempt to give it a service before it falls apart entirely. Does
>>>anyone know how to set these up, and what parts are available. I would
>>>like to think that the set up informatino in standard but I not going
>>>to even bother opening it all up until I have all the relevant
>>>information. Hope someone can help. Any general V8 tuning info would
>>>also be greatly recieved. I used it for a trial last weekend and the
>>>thing would just die away and stall about 500rpm lower than expected.
>>>she also "splutters" when you bury the throttle from low revs.
>>>
>>>Dave

>>
>> Simon Isaacs has got one... :(
>>
>> When it was mine, google and the like didn't turn up a whole lot. in
>> the end Warren worked it out the hard way I think - trial, error and
>> common-sense.

>
>IMO, the only thing it really has going for it is the ability to adjust the
>total mechanical advance, other than that my experiences suggest it is a
>relatively troublesome piece of kit with high maintenance issues. An
>acquaintance of mine had one on his hillrally racer - and went out at the
>first service on the Scottish Hillrally a few years back due to it's
>failure. I believe he kicked it mercilessly around his workshop on the
>following Monday morning....!!! Needless to say he now runs the dizzy that
>is my personal favourite choice, the standard Lucas DLM8 with the amp module
>on the side of the dizzy body. I have found these dizzy's to be very
>reliable over the years and fit them to all my engines wherever possible.
>RPI will no doubt help if you open your wallet, I believe they hold stocks
>of spares for them, but I'd personally fit a DLM8 and forget it.
>Badger.
>


gives a really strong spark though, much stronger than most other
dizzys I have seen.
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"Simon Isaacs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:27:02 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
> <[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:
>
>>
>>"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On 1 Mar 2006 03:32:00 -0800, "Dave R" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I have a mallort twin point in my v8 ex compe safari racer and am going
>>>>to attempt to give it a service before it falls apart entirely. Does
>>>>anyone know how to set these up, and what parts are available. I would
>>>>like to think that the set up informatino in standard but I not going
>>>>to even bother opening it all up until I have all the relevant
>>>>information. Hope someone can help. Any general V8 tuning info would
>>>>also be greatly recieved. I used it for a trial last weekend and the
>>>>thing would just die away and stall about 500rpm lower than expected.
>>>>she also "splutters" when you bury the throttle from low revs.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>> Simon Isaacs has got one... :(
>>>
>>> When it was mine, google and the like didn't turn up a whole lot. in
>>> the end Warren worked it out the hard way I think - trial, error and
>>> common-sense.

>>
>>IMO, the only thing it really has going for it is the ability to adjust
>>the
>>total mechanical advance, other than that my experiences suggest it is a
>>relatively troublesome piece of kit with high maintenance issues. An
>>acquaintance of mine had one on his hillrally racer - and went out at the
>>first service on the Scottish Hillrally a few years back due to it's
>>failure. I believe he kicked it mercilessly around his workshop on the
>>following Monday morning....!!! Needless to say he now runs the dizzy that
>>is my personal favourite choice, the standard Lucas DLM8 with the amp
>>module
>>on the side of the dizzy body. I have found these dizzy's to be very
>>reliable over the years and fit them to all my engines wherever possible.
>>RPI will no doubt help if you open your wallet, I believe they hold stocks
>>of spares for them, but I'd personally fit a DLM8 and forget it.
>>Badger.
>>

>
> gives a really strong spark though, much stronger than most other
> dizzys I have seen.


Yebbut the spark intensity is down to the coil's output voltage and the
dwell period, not just the points that are switching it. In the case of the
mallory, the twin points are definitely an advantage over a single-points
rover dizzy, by allowing a longer dwell period for the coil to "charge up"
and the elimination of high-rpm points bounce. However, both these points
(no pun intended!) are made obsolete with an electronic dizzy, which has a
longer dwell time and higher rpm (switching) limit than any points dizzy.
A Lucas DLM8 dizzy, correctly set up with sound condition cap, rotor arm,
leads, plugs and coil is as good as any mallory in my opinion,
notwithstanding the mallory's ability to alter the total advance. The lucas
unit can have the total advance altered as well, just not as simply as
turning a screw, and both types need to come apart to replace springs if
altering the advance rates. Added bonus of the lucas one is the ability to
obtain spares easily, very handy if you suffer a breakdown somewhere.
Just my personal thoughts.
Badger.


 
Strange that there isn't any set up info readily available. I don't
want to have to buy a new dizzy simply because it's generally running
OK and the thing only gets used the last Sunday of every month.

I think it just needs setting up. It's not had a service in the
12months I;ve had it except for oil and filter so I'm guessing that it
could do with some TLC.

I'm also wondering whether the Gunson Colortune kit that I have seen
actually works, I can't help thinking that the spluttering under
acceleration is just fuel / carb set up.

Any recommended reading on V8's?

 
Dave R wrote:
> Strange that there isn't any set up info readily available. I don't
> want to have to buy a new dizzy simply because it's generally running
> OK and the thing only gets used the last Sunday of every month.


Mallory twin-point setting procedure on the link below

http://www.centuryperformance.com/point_settings.asp

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