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is there a way to check what my wheel nuts are tightened at currently?

thanks!


 
In article <moGIb.77497$J77.60205@fed1read07>, nospam@for_me.com says...
> is there a way to check what my wheel nuts are tightened at currently?
>
> thanks!
>
>
>


Torque wrench.
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Roughly 12/31/03 12:32, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:

> is there a way to check what my wheel nuts are tightened at currently?


Torque wrench. Local Sears has several. Depending on your
[unidentified] vehicle you'll want one with a range of up
to about 120 lbs at most. Get a long handle one and a socket
to fit your nuts. A click type is much easier to use than the
old needle style.

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do i apply it in the direction of tightening and see what it reads or in the
opposite direction?

"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
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> Roughly 12/31/03 12:32, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > is there a way to check what my wheel nuts are tightened at currently?

>
> Torque wrench. Local Sears has several. Depending on your
> [unidentified] vehicle you'll want one with a range of up
> to about 120 lbs at most. Get a long handle one and a socket
> to fit your nuts. A click type is much easier to use than the
> old needle style.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
>



 
Roughly 12/31/03 14:14, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:

> do i apply it in the direction of tightening and see what it reads or in the
> opposite direction?


Yes.

First you go buy the wrench, _then_ you come back for instructions.

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i used to own one when i had a motorcycle ... stupidly gave it away to a
friend ... it was a needle one ... i'll go take a look at the click ones you
mentioned ...

"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
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> Roughly 12/31/03 14:14, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > do i apply it in the direction of tightening and see what it reads or in

the
> > opposite direction?

>
> Yes.
>
> First you go buy the wrench, _then_ you come back for instructions.
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
>



 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:26:42 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11"
<"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote:

>:|Roughly 12/31/03 12:32, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:
>:|
>:|> is there a way to check what my wheel nuts are tightened at currently?
>:|
>:| Torque wrench. Local Sears has several. Depending on your
>:| [unidentified] vehicle you'll want one with a range of up
>:| to about 120 lbs at most. Get a long handle one and a socket
>:| to fit your nuts. A click type is much easier to use than the
>:| old needle style.



the 59.99 1/2" drive craftsman would be fine for tightening lug nuts.
they go up to 200lbs-ft. the old lever type wrenches are actually far
more accurate than a click type wrench and never require adjustment,
as the modulus of the steel never changes. clickers need periodic
adjustment to stay on spec.

-Bret
 
Roughly 12/31/03 14:22, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:

> i used to own one when i had a motorcycle ... stupidly gave it away to a
> friend ... it was a needle one ... i'll go take a look at the click ones you
> mentioned ...


You can get a good enough one for about thirty bucks, plus a
socket to match your nuts.

Then loosen the lugnuts and retighten to the proper torque.
Don't add any lube whatsoever unless your owner's manual or
a FACTORY service manual suggests it and in that case use
exactly the lube spec'd. When in doubt, don't add any lube.

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4000 psi wrote:
>
> do i apply it in the direction of tightening and see what it reads or in the
> opposite direction?


The best option is to loosen the nut then re-torque it to spec. Second best would be to try tightening in place and see where the nut breaks free, but if you find its too tight, you'll need to back it off and torque up to spec. anyway, so why not just
back it off in the first place.

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Roger
 
well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last tire
rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...

symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering wheel
shakes ...

i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are warped
and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...

according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left in
the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a complete
break job to solve the problem ...

i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts, then
he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that he
caused ...



"Roger Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 4000 psi wrote:
> >
> > do i apply it in the direction of tightening and see what it reads or in

the
> > opposite direction?

>
> The best option is to loosen the nut then re-torque it to spec. Second

best would be to try tightening in place and see where the nut breaks free,
but if you find its too tight, you'll need to back it off and torque up to
spec. anyway, so why not just
> back it off in the first place.
>
> --
> Roger



 
In article <f2MIb.79156$J77.13213@fed1read07>, nospam@for_me.com says...
> well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last tire
> rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...
>
> symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering wheel
> shakes ...
>
> i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are warped
> and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...
>
> according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left in
> the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a complete
> break job to solve the problem ...
>
> i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts, then
> he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that he
> caused ...
>


To get rid of warped rotors the only answer is to replace them so don't
let him stick you with a "resurfacing".

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if i ever get to THAT point :)) ... i will definitely make sure ... first i
have to prove that the lugs are over tight ... if they are at all of course
....

it could also be the driving up-n-down all these hills ... stopping this 2
ton guerilla down a steep hill is no fun thats for sure ...

i can't wait to get the ceramic pads ...

"Chris Phillipo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <f2MIb.79156$J77.13213@fed1read07>, nospam@for_me.com says...
> > well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last

tire
> > rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...
> >
> > symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering

wheel
> > shakes ...
> >
> > i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are

warped
> > and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...
> >
> > according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left

in
> > the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a

complete
> > break job to solve the problem ...
> >
> > i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts,

then
> > he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that

he
> > caused ...
> >

>
> To get rid of warped rotors the only answer is to replace them so don't
> let him stick you with a "resurfacing".
>
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Roughly 12/31/03 18:58, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:

> well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last tire
> rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...
>
> symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering wheel
> shakes ...
>
> i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are warped
> and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...
>
> according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left in
> the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a complete
> break job to solve the problem ...
>
> i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts, then
> he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that he
> caused ...


I'd more expect that your brakes should be fixed under either
a warranty or a recall. This depends on the make and model of
your vehicle.

How did you diagnose that the lugnuts were too tight? If you
loosened them, is gonna be hard to convince the dealer that
he did it.


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there is no recalls on breaks for this model ...

the car has developed this problem since last service that included a tire
rotation and right around 40k miles ...

i saw the dealer about it and he attributed it to the break pads warping the
disks, at this time i still had over 70% pad left (according to the
dealer)...

i read up about this on the net and came across the below link, which then
got me thinking may be i should check the lug nut torque, etc., etc.

http://www.infinitihelp.com/Infiniti/FAQ/Brakes/warp.htm


"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
news:2f_Ib.23872$I07.58881@attbi_s53...
> Roughly 12/31/03 18:58, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last

tire
> > rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...
> >
> > symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering

wheel
> > shakes ...
> >
> > i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are

warped
> > and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...
> >
> > according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left

in
> > the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a

complete
> > break job to solve the problem ...
> >
> > i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts,

then
> > he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that

he
> > caused ...

>
> I'd more expect that your brakes should be fixed under either
> a warranty or a recall. This depends on the make and model of
> your vehicle.
>
> How did you diagnose that the lugnuts were too tight? If you
> loosened them, is gonna be hard to convince the dealer that
> he did it.
>
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
>



 
In article <eP%Ib.160452$J77.115253@fed1read07>, nospam@for_me.com
says...
> there is no recalls on breaks for this model ...
>
> the car has developed this problem since last service that included a tire
> rotation and right around 40k miles ...
>
> i saw the dealer about it and he attributed it to the break pads warping the
> disks, at this time i still had over 70% pad left (according to the
> dealer)...
>
> i read up about this on the net and came across the below link, which then
> got me thinking may be i should check the lug nut torque, etc., etc.
>
> http://www.infinitihelp.com/Infiniti/FAQ/Brakes/warp.htm
>


Metallic pads could cause the rotor to warp or otherwise rapidly
degrade, depending on how you drive it. A stuck caliper piston causing
continuous dragging of a pad can also cause it.
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It could be that one of the wheels is not quite as true as it should be and
that the symptom shows up more now that wheel has been moved to the front..

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"4000 psi" <nospam@for_me.com> wrote in message
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> is there a way to check what my wheel nuts are tightened at currently?
>
> thanks!
>
>



 
that make sense ... how big of a jolt would make wheel "false" (a.k.a.
untrue)

"Mike Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It could be that one of the wheels is not quite as true as it should be

and
> that the symptom shows up more now that wheel has been moved to the

front..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "4000 psi" <nospam@for_me.com> wrote in message
> news:moGIb.77497$J77.60205@fed1read07...
> > is there a way to check what my wheel nuts are tightened at currently?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> >

>
>



 
Not a great deal.. I knew of somebody who once bought cheap aftermarket
alloys.. one of the wheels wasn't as good as it should have been, so he
always kept it on the back of the car.. you couldn't tell at all by just a
visual inspection of the wheel.. I would suggest that the wheels are swapped
front to back, and then see if the problem still exists..

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"4000 psi" <nospam@for_me.com> wrote in message
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> that make sense ... how big of a jolt would make wheel "false" (a.k.a.
> untrue)
>
> "Mike Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > It could be that one of the wheels is not quite as true as it should be

> and
> > that the symptom shows up more now that wheel has been moved to the

> front..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
> >
> > "4000 psi" <nospam@for_me.com> wrote in message
> > news:moGIb.77497$J77.60205@fed1read07...
> > > is there a way to check what my wheel nuts are tightened at currently?
> > >
> > > thanks!
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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