JD Powers Again Says Landrover "Perennial Loser"

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Lanceandrew wrote:

> As usual...Landrover ranks as the dog, below Kia even...with JD Powers....
>
>
> "Land Rover, which Ivers described as a perennial loser, finished last among
> individual nameplates. "They're highly desirable vehicles but they tend to have
> a tough time getting customers to buy more than one," he said".
>
> http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/29/pf/autos/autos_quality.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

Maybe we love them BECAUSE they aren't too reliable ?

Steve
 
"Steve Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lanceandrew wrote:
>
> > As usual...Landrover ranks as the dog, below Kia even...with JD
Powers....
> >
> >
> > "Land Rover, which Ivers described as a perennial loser, finished last
among
> > individual nameplates. "They're highly desirable vehicles but they tend
to have
> > a tough time getting customers to buy more than one," he said".
> >
> >
http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/29/pf/autos/autos_quality.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes
>
> Maybe we love them BECAUSE they aren't too reliable ?

Well, most people here have had more than one. Some of us have several.
Despite the unreliability. I think it comes down to character.


 
David French typed:
> "Steve Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Lanceandrew wrote:
>>
>>> As usual...Landrover ranks as the dog, below Kia even...with JD
>>> Powers....
>>>
>>>
>>> "Land Rover, which Ivers described as a perennial loser, finished last
>>> among individual nameplates. "They're highly desirable vehicles but
>>> they tend to have a tough time getting customers to buy more than one,"
>>> he said".
>>>
>>>
>
http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/29/pf/autos/autos_quality.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes
>>
>> Maybe we love them BECAUSE they aren't too reliable ?
>
> Well, most people here have had more than one. Some of us have several.
> Despite the unreliability. I think it comes down to character.

Yup. Even the blandest Land Rover, such as my 300Tdi 3 door with wind-up
windows, has more character than _anything_ else I've driven. 'cept the
Series 3 of course, and maybe when I drove a Mclaren F1, but that's a
different concept anyway .. :)

--
Paul ...

(8(|) ... Homer Rocks


 
Paul - xxx wrote:


>
> Yup. Even the blandest Land Rover, such as my 300Tdi 3 door with wind-up
> windows, has more character than _anything_ else I've driven. 'cept the
> Series 3 of course, and maybe when I drove a Mclaren F1, but that's a
> different concept anyway .. :)
>
You're quite right, I always get out of our 101s with a smile on my
face. And oil on my hands ;-)

Steve
 
Lanceandrew wrote:
> As usual...Landrover ranks as the dog, below Kia even...with JD
> Powers....
>
>
> "Land Rover, which Ivers described as a perennial loser, finished
> last among individual nameplates. "They're highly desirable vehicles
> but they tend to have a tough time getting customers to buy more
than
> one," he said".
>

The thing is that they are not particularly unreliable long term. The
initial build quality is so appalling though, that the first two years
can be a nightmare of repeat dealer visits and it is *this* that puts
a high proportion of first owners off buying any more. If you think
owning *one* is bad enough, you should try running a modern fleet of
them. It is not fun and is *very* costly in terms of down-time,
disruption and monetary loss.
This does not stop me lusting after the next generation Defender
because, after all is said and done, nobody does it better long term
and performance wise.

Huw


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Yes but which Land Rover,

Mine may have been a British Leyland disaster of the 1970's but how many
other British Leyland disasters (apart from buses) have served so well for
so long. Besides you have to have something to keep you occupied.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"Lanceandrew" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As usual...Landrover ranks as the dog, below Kia even...with JD Powers....
>
>
> "Land Rover, which Ivers described as a perennial loser, finished last
among
> individual nameplates. "They're highly desirable vehicles but they tend to
have
> a tough time getting customers to buy more than one," he said".
>
>
http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/29/pf/autos/autos_quality.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes


 
In news:[email protected],
Larry <[email protected]> expelled:
> Yes but which Land Rover,
>
> Mine may have been a British Leyland disaster of the 1970's but how
> many other British Leyland disasters (apart from buses) have served
> so well for so long. Besides you have to have something to keep you
> occupied.
>
>
As it was put when I first bought a Landrover - that's not a vehicle it's a
hobby :)

--
EMB
change two to number to reply


 

> Well, most people here have had more than one. Some of us have several.
> Despite the unreliability. I think it comes down to character.

JD is USA ....Disco, Freeloader and RR only ....guess we like LR because of
the Defenders ;-)


 
In <[email protected]> David French wrote:
> Well, most people here have had more than one. Some of us have
> several. Despite the unreliability. I think it comes down to
> character.

I thought the reason for having more than one was to improve the odds of
having one that works ?

cheers

Dave W.
http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
 
Dave White typed:
> In <[email protected]> David French wrote:
>> Well, most people here have had more than one. Some of us have
>> several. Despite the unreliability. I think it comes down to
>> character.
>
> I thought the reason for having more than one was to improve the odds of
> having one that works ?

And that there's always one that you can 'borrow' bits off to fix the other.

--
Paul ...

(8(|) ... Homer Rocks


 
On or around Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:51:47 +0200, "Aubrey" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>> Well, most people here have had more than one. Some of us have several.
>> Despite the unreliability. I think it comes down to character.
>
>JD is USA ....Disco, Freeloader and RR only ....guess we like LR because of
>the Defenders ;-)
>

some of us only buy second hand ones, and the discovery (if you'll pardon
the pun) of the faults and omissions of both the previous owners and Lode
Lane is all part of the Land Rover Experience (TM).

a recent case in point: the driver's side check strap wasn't working on my
disco. Got around to pulling it off for a looksee, and found the bit inside
broken. Welded same up, reshaped it with a lump hammer, re-assembled and
put it back into the door. But what's this? that missing 3rd bolt, which
I'd assumed had simply fallen out, won't go in (or rather, its replacement
won't) - the hole has been misshapen by a carlessly-placed spotweld right
beside it. I suspect that the 3rd bolt (the one below the check strap) has
been missing since new, and the extra load this places on the bit inside
which is not so well supported led to its premature failure.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Too Busy: Your mind is like a motorway. Sometimes it can be jammed by
too much traffic. Avoid the jams by never using your mind on a
Bank Holiday weekend.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
> and maybe when I drove a Mclaren F1

Didn't have enough ground clearance for the green lane I took mine down.

;-)

Cheers

Blippie
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Actually, our best customers have owned several.
It's the Freelander folks that hate us.
Never buy the netry level anything.



Main dealer tech in USA.






On 30 Jun 2004 02:25:48 GMT, [email protected] (Lanceandrew) wrote:

>As usual...
 
On or around Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:04:31 -0400, JPF
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Never buy the netry level anything.

IRTA "netty level"

still appropriate.


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"The boys are dreaming wicked or of the bucking ranches of the night and
the jollyrodgered sea." Dylan Thomas (1914 - 1953) Under milk wood
 
On or around Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:04:31 -0400, JPF
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Never buy the netry level anything.

IRTA "netty level"

still appropriate.


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"The boys are dreaming wicked or of the bucking ranches of the night and
the jollyrodgered sea." Dylan Thomas (1914 - 1953) Under milk wood
 
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