I've got a hoist!

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I outbid someone on eBay by a whopping 2 pence (how satisfying is that??!!)
on a brand new hoist, and I'm going to collect it tomorrow. I've now got
the wonderful job of swapping my engines over!

Any tips/pointers/advice for me? its the first time i've ever attempted to
do anything major like this. It's looks fairly straighforward according to
the 3 different manuals I've got but I'd value other opinions.


Thanks,
Paul
---
Growler - 1976 SIII 2.25 petrol.
(I wonder if I could put both engines in....does that count as a 4.5 V8??
:))


 

"Pacman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I outbid someone on eBay by a whopping 2 pence (how satisfying is
that??!!)
> on a brand new hoist, and I'm going to collect it tomorrow. I've now got
> the wonderful job of swapping my engines over!
>
> Any tips/pointers/advice for me? its the first time i've ever attempted
to
> do anything major like this. It's looks fairly straighforward according
to
> the 3 different manuals I've got but I'd value other opinions.
>
By the way I should point out that I've already removed all the ancillaries,
manifold etc. All thats left to do is unbolt it from the gearbox and the
engine mounts....


 
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:47:58 -0000, "Pacman" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Pacman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I outbid someone on eBay by a whopping 2 pence (how satisfying is
>that??!!)
>> on a brand new hoist, and I'm going to collect it tomorrow. I've now got
>> the wonderful job of swapping my engines over!
>>
>> Any tips/pointers/advice for me? its the first time i've ever attempted
>to
>> do anything major like this. It's looks fairly straighforward according
>to
>> the 3 different manuals I've got but I'd value other opinions.
>>
>By the way I should point out that I've already removed all the ancillaries,
>manifold etc. All thats left to do is unbolt it from the gearbox and the
>engine mounts....
>
You can leave the manifolds and ancilliaries on to take it out you
know! (unless you need to swap them over onto the new lump anyhow)

Its really easy to get a landy engine out with a hoist.
Ive always done it by removing the front panel and radiator (as one is
easiest).

The hardest bit can be seperating the engine and gearbox. You may want
to support the bottom of the gearbox with a trolley jack to make it
easier. this also means you can lift it up to keep it straight with
the engine.
If they wont come apart then check that you havent missed a
bellhousing bolt!. me and a mate spent ages on one before he realised
that he hadnt done the last bellhousing bolt!

Make sure you fix the engine on to the lift securely. Old seatbelts
make fairly good lifting straps.
 

> You can leave the manifolds and ancilliaries on to take it out you
> know! (unless you need to swap them over onto the new lump anyhow)
>
I need to swap them to the new lump, but Hayne$ said to remove them all, so
I'd have probably done it anyway!!

> Its really easy to get a landy engine out with a hoist.
> Ive always done it by removing the front panel and radiator (as one is
> easiest).
I've taken the radiator out, but the front panel is still on, I'm scared to
take it off in case it falls to bits!! ;-)
>
> The hardest bit can be seperating the engine and gearbox. You may want
> to support the bottom of the gearbox with a trolley jack to make it
> easier. this also means you can lift it up to keep it straight with
> the engine.
> If they wont come apart then check that you havent missed a
> bellhousing bolt!. me and a mate spent ages on one before he realised
> that he hadnt done the last bellhousing bolt!

Will it just come straight off or will a bit of brute force with my dead
blow hammer be required? I suppose as long as the bolts remain level it
should come off with ease...shouldnt it?
>
> Make sure you fix the engine on to the lift securely. Old seatbelts
> make fairly good lifting straps.

I'm not sure if my new crane comes with straps, I don't think it does, so
I'll have to find something similar.

Thanks for your advice!


 
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:23:45 -0000, "Pacman" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> Its really easy to get a landy engine out with a hoist.
>> Ive always done it by removing the front panel and radiator (as one is
>> easiest).
>I've taken the radiator out, but the front panel is still on, I'm scared to
>take it off in case it falls to bits!! ;-)

Unless you have taken a wing off, and if you have a conventional
engine lift then you will most likely not be able to lift it high
enough to clear the front panel (its also scary lifting it that
high!).
If i were you i would take the panel off. Its only the 3 bolts along
the bottom and a couple down each wing. If the bottom is rusty you can
always get someone to weld a bit of angle along it for you.

>> The hardest bit can be seperating the engine and gearbox. You may want
>> to support the bottom of the gearbox with a trolley jack to make it
>> easier. this also means you can lift it up to keep it straight with
>> the engine.
>> If they wont come apart then check that you havent missed a
>> bellhousing bolt!. me and a mate spent ages on one before he realised
>> that he hadnt done the last bellhousing bolt!
>
>Will it just come straight off or will a bit of brute force with my dead
>blow hammer be required? I suppose as long as the bolts remain level it
>should come off with ease...shouldnt it?

If you lift the engine enough to get it off the mounts, and then jack
the front of the gearbox so that they are still stright to each other
it shouldnt be too hard. If you get a lever inbetween they should
seperate fairly easily.

>> Make sure you fix the engine on to the lift securely. Old seatbelts
>> make fairly good lifting straps.
>
>I'm not sure if my new crane comes with straps, I don't think it does, so
>I'll have to find something similar.

I generally either use some seatbelts or some fairly hefty rope - but
im always more wary when im using the rope!

>Thanks for your advice!
>

 
On Wednesday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "Pacman" wrote:

> > Its really easy to get a landy engine out with a hoist.

> Will it just come straight off or will a bit of brute force with my dead
> blow hammer be required? I suppose as long as the bolts remain level it
> should come off with ease...shouldnt it?

I don't know if they're on a Land Rover, but on the tractors I've split
there have been little recesses in the casting, giving a slot at the
joint for a pry-bar or heavy screwdriver. The bolts are the main thing,
but there can be a little stick, maybe friction in the holes, that needs
to be overcome at the start.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

Wrought under license granted by Her Majesty's Apostropher Royal AD MMIV
 
Tom Woods wrote:

> I generally either use some seatbelts or some fairly hefty rope - but
> im always more wary when im using the rope!

I use chain - then there's nothing to fray and you know that it can't break.


--
EMB
 
On Wednesday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Tom Woods" wrote:

> >I'm not sure if my new crane comes with straps, I don't think it does, so
> >I'll have to find something similar.
>
> I generally either use some seatbelts or some fairly hefty rope - but
> im always more wary when im using the rope!

I'm inclined to suggest getting some proper straps, with a rated load at
least as great as that for the hoist. You can be quite safe with ropes,
even old seatbelts, if you know what you're doing. But the right gear
doesn't have to be expensive, and it fends off the clipboard-carriers
who may never had EP90 dribbling down their overalls.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

Wrought under license granted by Her Majesty's Apostropher Royal AD MMIV
 
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