Intercooler

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Graham Jones

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #1

Hi Chaps,

I know the principles of the intercooler i.e. cooling the air prior to
the turbo and if you want more torque add a bigger one. My question is,
could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that work.
If not why? (genuine question)
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Regards
Graham Jones
110 defender 300tdi

 

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David_LLAMA4x4

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #2

"Graham Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Chaps,
>
> I know the principles of the intercooler i.e. cooling the air prior to
> the turbo and if you want more torque add a bigger one. My question is,
> could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that work.
> If not why? (genuine question)
> --
> Regards
> Graham Jones
> 110 defender 300tdi

Yes you could, and yes it would....

Only slight snag would be that the air might have to go through some pretty
obscure plumbing whereas with a new one piece intercooler there is only the
normal intercooler hoses.

David
www.llama4x4.co.uk

 

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Pantelis Giamarellos

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #3

Graham Hi,

This is done if you want to keep the standard intercooler in place in case
your vehicle comes with A/C (for Discovery series 1 vehicles)

Andy Graham of Allisport has such a setup for Discos.
Maybe other suppliers of aftermarket intercoolers offer something similar.

Take care
Pantelis

"Graham Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Chaps,
>
> I know the principles of the intercooler i.e. cooling the air prior to
> the turbo and if you want more torque add a bigger one. My question is,
> could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that work.
> If not why? (genuine question)
> --
> Regards
> Graham Jones
> 110 defender 300tdi

 

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Raoul Donschachner

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #4

Graham Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that work.

It would, but i am sure that you wouldn´t find enough room for a second
one.

Raoul
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Graham Jones

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #5

In message <1gj0q8f.1xznovs972jn3N%[email protected]>, Raoul
Donschachner <[email protected]> writes
>Graham Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that work.
>
>It would, but i am sure that you wouldn´t find enough room for a second

Thanks to all for the info.

--
Regards
Graham Jones

 

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GbH

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #6

In news:[email protected],
Graham Jones <[email protected]> blithered:
> Hi Chaps,
>
> I know the principles of the intercooler i.e. cooling the air prior to
> the turbo and if you want more torque add a bigger one. My question
> is, could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that
> work. If not why? (genuine question)

Not sure I follow that, how does the (Inter)cooler cool the incoming airflow when
it is at the same temperature? The cooler HAS to be after the Turbo!!

The undesirable action of the Turbocharger is to increase the temperature of the
airflow, in addition to the desirable action of compressing (increasing the
pressure of) it.
The Intercooler exposes the increased temperature & pressure charge to air @ a
lower temperature. Increasing temperature reduces volume of airflow, hence
undesireable.


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Raoul Donschachner

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #7

GbH <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not sure I follow that, how does the (Inter)cooler cool the incoming
> airflow when it is at the same temperature? The cooler HAS to be after the
> Turbo!!

Of course! I forgot to mention this little fault in my posting.

Raoul
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Alistair

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #8

If you really want to delve deep into theory, its not an intercooler, it is
actually an aftercooler. It is called an intercooler when two turbos are
used in series.

Alistair

"GbH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In news:[email protected],
> Graham Jones <[email protected]> blithered:
> > Hi Chaps,
> >
> > I know the principles of the intercooler i.e. cooling the air prior to
> > the turbo and if you want more torque add a bigger one. My question
> > is, could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that
> > work. If not why? (genuine question)
>
> Not sure I follow that, how does the (Inter)cooler cool the incoming
airflow when
> it is at the same temperature? The cooler HAS to be after the Turbo!!
>
> The undesirable action of the Turbocharger is to increase the temperature
of the
> airflow, in addition to the desirable action of compressing (increasing
the
> pressure of) it.
> The Intercooler exposes the increased temperature & pressure charge to air
@ a
> lower temperature. Increasing temperature reduces volume of airflow, hence
> undesireable.
>
>
> --
> If Your specification is vague or imprecise, you'll likely get what you
> asked for not what you want
>
>

 

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GbH

Guest

• Aug 24, 2004

• #9

In news:[email protected],
Alistair <[email protected]> blithered:
> If you really want to delve deep into theory, its not an intercooler,
> it is actually an aftercooler. It is called an intercooler when two
> turbos are used in series.

But I think we are now agreed the one before the turbo is called a waste of time!

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Aug 24, 2004

• #10

On or around Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:55:37 +0000 (UTC), "Alistair"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>If you really want to delve deep into theory, its not an intercooler, it is
>actually an aftercooler. It is called an intercooler when two turbos are
>used in series.

I thought it was inter 'cos it was between the turbo and the manifold,
meself.

mind, they're doing clever things with twin turbos, as reported in a nother
thread.

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David_LLAMA4x4

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #11

"Graham Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Chaps,
>
> I know the principles of the intercooler i.e. cooling the air prior to
> the turbo and if you want more torque add a bigger one. My question is,
> could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that work.
> If not why? (genuine question)
> --
> Regards
> Graham Jones
> 110 defender 300tdi

Yes you could, and yes it would....

Only slight snag would be that the air might have to go through some pretty
obscure plumbing whereas with a new one piece intercooler there is only the
normal intercooler hoses.

David
www.llama4x4.co.uk

 

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Raoul Donschachner

Guest

• Aug 24, 2004

• #12

Graham Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that work.

It would, but i am sure that you wouldn´t find enough room for a second
one.

Raoul
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David_LLAMA4x4

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #13

"Graham Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Chaps,
>
> I know the principles of the intercooler i.e. cooling the air prior to
> the turbo and if you want more torque add a bigger one. My question is,
> could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that work.
> If not why? (genuine question)
> --
> Regards
> Graham Jones
> 110 defender 300tdi

Yes you could, and yes it would....

Only slight snag would be that the air might have to go through some pretty
obscure plumbing whereas with a new one piece intercooler there is only the
normal intercooler hoses.

David
www.llama4x4.co.uk

 

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Raoul Donschachner

Guest

• Aug 24, 2004

• #14

Graham Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> could you add another IC in line with the old one and would that work.

It would, but i am sure that you wouldn´t find enough room for a second
one.

Raoul
--
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