Instructions for hi-lif jack?

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Nige

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Anyone got a scan they can let me have before I hurt myself with this monster??

Ta

Nige

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Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

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On Thu, 19 May 2005 18:04:28 +0100, "Nige"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Anyone got a scan they can let me have before I hurt myself with this monster??
>
>Ta
>
>Nige
>
>--?
>Subaru WRX (Annabel)
>
>Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)
>
>'"They called him Jimmy the gent"
>

http://www.davidbowyer.com/

Go to "Learn with David". Clear and sensible information.


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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
In message <[email protected]>, Nige
<[email protected]> writes
>Anyone got a scan they can let me have before I hurt myself with this monster??
>
>Ta
>
>Nige
>
>--
>Subaru WRX (Annabel)
>
>Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)
>
>'"They called him Jimmy the gent"
>
>
The greatest danger comes when lowering rather than lifting. Please read
the instructions VERY carefully.
--
hugh
 
On Thu, 19 May 2005 18:51:05 +0100, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

>In message <[email protected]>, Nige
><[email protected]> writes
>>Anyone got a scan they can let me have before I hurt myself with this monster??
>>
>>Ta
>>
>>
>The greatest danger comes when lowering rather than lifting. Please read
>the instructions VERY carefully.

IMHO, the greatest danger comes from people doing work under a
landrover supported soley by a hi-lift. If you're doing anything more
than changing a wheel, put it on axle stands, Hi-lift jacks are not
stable under the best of circumstances

Alex
 
so Alex was, like...
> On Thu, 19 May 2005 18:51:05 +0100, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
>> In message <[email protected]>, Nige
>> <[email protected]> writes
>>> Anyone got a scan they can let me have before I hurt myself with
>>> this monster??
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>>
>> The greatest danger comes when lowering rather than lifting. Please
>> read the instructions VERY carefully.
>
> IMHO, the greatest danger comes from people doing work under a
> landrover supported soley by a hi-lift. If you're doing anything more
> than changing a wheel, put it on axle stands, Hi-lift jacks are not
> stable under the best of circumstances
>
> Alex

And not chocking a wheel "just to save time". Can lead to dents in
paintwork, trapped fingers, serious cursing etc. as the vehicle just rolls
away from the jack. Don't ask.

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
Jack up your vehicle from about six feet away and run like f*** before it
falls on you! Seriously, these things are lethal and when you hit the
release button they can fall very quickly.
Cheers, John



 
In message <[email protected]>
"John Stokes" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jack up your vehicle from about six feet away and run like f*** before it
> falls on you! Seriously, these things are lethal and when you hit the
> release button they can fall very quickly.
> Cheers, John
>
>
>

They shouldn't! Push the "switch" to "down" and it should be necessary
to jack the vehicle down with the handle - it should not drop with
a load on it. If you are having problems then some oil often works
wonders.

Richard
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On Sat, 28 May 2005 16:07:56 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

>They shouldn't! Push the "switch" to "down" and it should be necessary
>to jack the vehicle down with the handle - it should not drop with
>a load on it. If you are having problems then some oil often works
>wonders.

I'll go along with that. A HiLift is one of the safest tools provided
it's used by someone who knows what they're doing and of course, the
jack has been well maintained.

 

"Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 28 May 2005 16:07:56 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >They shouldn't! Push the "switch" to "down" and it should be necessary
> >to jack the vehicle down with the handle - it should not drop with
> >a load on it. If you are having problems then some oil often works
> >wonders.
>
> I'll go along with that. A HiLift is one of the safest tools provided
> it's used by someone who knows what they're doing and of course, the
> jack has been well maintained.
>
unless you let the handle fall under its own weight when the switch is in
the down position and holding a LR up and yer teeth get in the way :0)
Not done it myself but it could happen.


 
On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:45:39 +0100, "Angus McCoatup©"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Not done it myself but it could happen.

No it couldn't, if maintained and used correctly.

 

"Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:45:39 +0100, "Angus McCoatup©"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Not done it myself but it could happen.
>
> No it couldn't, if maintained and used correctly.
>
But it is an accident that could happen if your not aware of it and use it
incorrectly


 
> >
> But it is an accident that could happen if your not aware of it and use it
> incorrectly
>
>

precisely. every tool is perfectly safe if used only in there intended
purpose and are inspected every single time they are used. but the fact is,
with hi-lifts it is extremely tempting to use them when proper jacks or
stands should be used. i mean seriously, who hasn't thought "ahhhh, i'll
only be under it for 5 mins. she'll be right." or am i on my own here????

Sam.


 
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> > Jack up your vehicle from about six feet away and run like f*** before it
> > falls on you! Seriously, these things are lethal and when you hit the
> > release button they can fall very quickly.
> > Cheers, John
> >
> >
> >

> They shouldn't! Push the "switch" to "down" and it should be necessary
> to jack the vehicle down with the handle - it should not drop with
> a load on it. If you are having problems then some oil often works
> wonders.

> The reverse lever (FOR LOWERING) SHOULD NEVER BE SELECTED UNTIL THE
> MAIN LIFTING ARM IS IN THE FULL UPRIGHT POSITION, then the MAIN
> LIFTING ARM is used to lower the vehicle to ground level one tooth at
> a time, allowing the arm to be fully upright on each action, thus
> allowing the pawl to lock into place on the tooth correctly. The only
> way a vehicle can come down on a jack is if you throw the lever into
> the down position, when the MAIN LIFTING ARM IS IN THE WRONG POSITION
> resulting in the pawl being in the wrong position on the teeth. The
> lifting arm from this position will come up and bite you HARD. ALWAYS
> STAND SLIGHTLY TO THE SIDE "HEAD CLEARLY AWAY FROM THE MAIN LIFTING
> ARM" when lowering or lifting, and be CONSTANTLY aware that the
> vehicle may kick out sideways and be thrown off the jack. This will
> always result in the vehicle being thrown off onto the side that the
> wheel is off, and will, if your legs are under the vehicle when
> replacing the tyre, result in a couple of broken legs at the least.
> Not even recommended if your on your own here. On one occasion when I
> had my 110CSW, I had the need to change a tyre when the above
> happened. As luck had it I was with several freinds who JUST managed
> to push the vehicle back into an upright position rather quickly. So
> just pointing out that 90/110 addapters are also notorious for doing
> this. One good smack under the chin and "YOUR AS GOOD AS DEAD" Dont
> try it cos I wont expect you to reply to this thread, at least not for
> a good while. HEED A WARNING d:x DAVE

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On Mon, 30 May 2005 17:20:09 +1000, "Samuel"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>precisely. every tool is perfectly safe if used only in there intended
>purpose and are inspected every single time they are used. but the fact is,
>with hi-lifts it is extremely tempting to use them when proper jacks or
>stands should be used. i mean seriously, who hasn't thought "ahhhh, i'll
>only be under it for 5 mins. she'll be right." or am i on my own here????

I'd hope you are. A HiLift is safer than most "proper jacks" as there
are no hydraulic seals to worry about. The HiLift has retained its
popularity _because_ it is reliable and (generally) foolproof. ANYONE
working under a vehicle who relies solely on a jack, is asking for
whatever nasty incident results IMO.

An "accident" caused by incorrect use or poor maintenance is NOT an
accident, it is negligence.

 
On Mon, 30 May 2005 08:12:34 +0100, "Angus McCoatup©"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> No it couldn't, if maintained and used correctly.
>>
>But it is an accident that could happen if your not aware of it and use it
>incorrectly

That is not an accident.

 
On 2005-05-30, Samuel <[email protected]> wrote:

> i mean seriously, who hasn't thought "ahhhh, i'll only be under it
> for 5 mins. she'll be right." or am i on my own here????

Blimey, I'm paranoid! When I have to work under the truck and I'm
doing something that needs more space, I put the truck on drive-on
ramps, one pair facing forwards and one pair facing backwards to stop
the truck moving forwards and tipping all the ramps over!

High-lift jacks are scary creatures, what with all that lack of
lateral support and the kind of height you have to pump the truck even
to change a wheel... A bottle jack under the axle followed by an axle
stand does it for me, and even then I leave the jack under there
lowered by a few millimeters. I had a blowout on the M6 at 80MPH in
the dead of night on a windy day, changing the wheel parked by the
side of the road in the wind with lorries thundering past, shaking the
truck, doesn't do much for the nerves when it's up in the air on a
high-lift.

--
For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert
 
On 2005-05-30, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> That is not an accident.

It is according to the dictionary definitions of the word, although I
know what you're trying to say, i.e. if used properly they won't start
waggling up and down mashing your skull.

I have a Jackall farm jack (IIRC) and the lowering lever doesn't do
anything until the swing arm is in the upright position flat against
the jack's rail. Only then will the jack go into lowering mode. Does
the hi-lift brand not do the same?

The jack I have also has a rapid lowering feature, if you engage the
lowering mechanism then pump the handle with no load on the jack,
it'll just slide to the bottom. I wonder if this is what caused
someone else's complaint about the jack dropping like a stone when
lowering? Under no-load conditions it's supposed to do that.

--
For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert
 
On or around Mon, 30 May 2005 22:58:53 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>High-lift jacks are scary creatures, what with all that lack of
>lateral support and the kind of height you have to pump the truck even
>to change a wheel... A bottle jack under the axle followed by an axle
>stand does it for me, and even then I leave the jack under there
>lowered by a few millimeters. I had a blowout on the M6 at 80MPH in
>the dead of night on a windy day, changing the wheel parked by the
>side of the road in the wind with lorries thundering past, shaking the
>truck, doesn't do much for the nerves when it's up in the air on a
>high-lift.

Having had a bottle jack go over and deposit a landy on me (fortunately not
fatally) I'm pretty paranoid about getting under vehicles without stands
these days, too.

mostly use a decent-sized trolley jack and then stands under the axles,
unless I need the axles free. I have been known to attach the engine hoist
to the front bumper of the 110 in order to change the front springs; but
that doesn't involve getting underneath.

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