India/Nepal 2013/14

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payydg

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Hello,

I'm new to land rovers and to expeditions. I bought a 200tdi defender 90 6months ago and have been kitting it out and slowly learning the basics.

The plan is to ship it to Mumbai and then drive it into Nepal to use as a mobile clinic for a hospital in Pokara for 2 month - as a mobile vaccination out reach clinic or something similar.

I was wondering had anyone on here had any experience of driving through India and Nepal? My biggest concern is that I break down and can't fix it myself. Does anyone know how available mechanics and parts are? I hear Nepal has a reasonably strong landrover presence.

I'll be based near the Annapurna national park, has anyone driven around this area and are there and 'routes' worth driving?

Any other advice would be welcome - like I say I've never been on a land rover expedition before and I'm learning as I go along.

Ta

D
 
I know a good mechanic in Nepal, lives on a mountain and his name is Dave!! Bit of a bugger to get hold of though lol
 
I took my Landy to Cornwall so anything's possible :p

A very thorough service before hand should be able to flag up any potential major problems and I'd think about renewing semi-consumable things like wheels bearings, prop U/J's and brakes etc....after all 2 months is not long.

There's always the possibility of the unforeseen like a core plug going or a split hose that can leave you stranded in the middle of no-where and being a 90 you've not got a lot of space for spares so 'get you to the next village' bodge repairs like tape, jubilee clips and chemical metal would be a comfort.

Apart from that, filters and fluids, a decent socket and spanner set, screwdrivers and the obigatory hammer will get you moving again almost always.

Good luck :)
 
That's great advice thanks, I took it to Scotland and the transfer box gave out :-(.

This is the sort of thing in worried about because I wouldn't be able to sort it my self and might be hard to find a village mechanic with a 200tdi transfer box kicking around

Thanks for the advice on tools!
 
That's great advice thanks, I took it to Scotland and the transfer box gave out :-(.

This is the sort of thing in worried about because I wouldn't be able to sort it my self and might be hard to find a village mechanic with a 200tdi transfer box kicking around

Thanks for the advice on tools!

It's better for it to go now than in Nepal ;) get a good one fitted Ashcroft rebuild mabie ?
Are you camping in the vehicle or outside or hostels this determines some of the space you need, roof racks are useful for the less expensive bulky stuff that can be strapped down easily, army boxes in the rear tub wings add some space
 
Hi Payydg,

I live in Kathmandu right now so I can shed some light on things.

Make sure you know the rules for India and Nepal to import your car. I know Nepal doens't allow cars older than I think 5-6 years old to be imported, but perhaps since you're just here temporarily that won't matter.

Driving here is insane. Prepare to disregard what you know about driving and enter a world of everyone driving like newly minted adolescents... they honk, pass on blind corners, don't look entering intersections, speed if they can (luckily overcrowding and poor maintenance put a natural stop to that), totally ignore lane markings (although to be honest you rarely ever see such things), etc. If you do get into an accident, however minor, the person will see you are a foreigner and expect some compensation, even if it was flagrantly their fault.

For maintenance, a simple diesel is a good choice, and there is usually a mechanic, in some form or another, in most medium sized areas. Land Rover parts are available in KTM, but not to any great degree. I can give you a number of a guy who runs a parts shop in KTM that deals with LR parts. The labor rates are ridiculously cheap here. I got my upper A-arm ball joint link changed in KTM (which is known as a real PITA) and the labor rate was USD $7.50, while the part was $65.

I have a Td5 110 here, and I agree with Blue Beasty above -- do a lot of preventative maintenance. I keep the old parts as spares if they still have some life left in them (UJs, ball joints, wheel bearings, etc.). Because it's mountainous, dusty and bumpy, everything is worked very hard so you want to go into things with a well-maintained truck. If you don't have it already, I'd get the service manual and be sure to bring it along...
 
Hi Payydg,

I live in Kathmandu right now so I can shed some light on things.

Make sure you know the rules for India and Nepal to import your car. I know Nepal doens't allow cars older than I think 5-6 years old to be imported, but perhaps since you're just here temporarily that won't matter.

Driving here is insane. Prepare to disregard what you know about driving and enter a world of everyone driving like newly minted adolescents... they honk, pass on blind corners, don't look entering intersections, speed if they can (luckily overcrowding and poor maintenance put a natural stop to that), totally ignore lane markings (although to be honest you rarely ever see such things), etc. If you do get into an accident, however minor, the person will see you are a foreigner and expect some compensation, even if it was flagrantly their fault.

For maintenance, a simple diesel is a good choice, and there is usually a mechanic, in some form or another, in most medium sized areas. Land Rover parts are available in KTM, but not to any great degree. I can give you a number of a guy who runs a parts shop in KTM that deals with LR parts. The labor rates are ridiculously cheap here. I got my upper A-arm ball joint link changed in KTM (which is known as a real PITA) and the labor rate was USD $7.50, while the part was $65.

I have a Td5 110 here, and I agree with Blue Beasty above -- do a lot of preventative maintenance. I keep the old parts as spares if they still have some life left in them (UJs, ball joints, wheel bearings, etc.). Because it's mountainous, dusty and bumpy, everything is worked very hard so you want to go into things with a well-maintained truck. If you don't have it already, I'd get the service manual and be sure to bring it along...

Thanks you for the information, that's absolutely fantastic. Sorry for the late reply.

Couple of questions:

Firstly, if you could give me the contact details of the parts guy in KTM that would be great. Do they have an email address so I can plan a few things before we go?

Secondly, have you done any particular mods to your TD5 to cope with the environment?

Thirdly, the point you made about old vehicle not being allowed in could be a major problem. Do you have any advice on who to contact concerning this? Would it be worth making an appointment with the embassy in London to discuss this?

Regards

David
 
Hi David,

So I *think* you would be fine importing your 90 for tourist use, see the link below, rule 71 (interestingly Nepal has many of their laws online). Be sure to do your research, this is an area that I don't know much about since I am a resident here. I would probably get in touch with the Nepali embassy in the UK and see if they can help you out with the laws. Also I can get you in touch with a guide we use who, for a fee, could probably help navigate the complexities of Nepali law here.

http://customs.gov.np/faq/opri.php

B.S Enterprises is who I have used, the owner is Pravin Bir Singh Kansakar:
These are his landlines: 4230528, 4224099. His email is [email protected].
He speaks very good English and runs a nice parts shop that is professional, organized and if he doesn't have the part, he will call around and find it for you, which in KTM is invaluable. There's no such thing as going on the internet and finding something, or even a phone book, it's all just asking people.

My Td5 was bought here and has required a lot of work to restore it to a more drivable, road worthy condition. It was "maintained" by a local firm that I would only recommend using out of desperation. I'll give you more details by PM, but I had them do a variety of things when I first bought my 110 and it was comical how bad the work was. (The best was trying to fix a leaking heater core by covering the plastic box it is housed in with putty. And stripping the oil drain plug made for several fun evenings.)

Make sure all your steering and suspension balljoints are in good shape. (When you see the narrow roads and the cliffs that you are often only feet from with no guard rails, you'll understand what I mean!) Same with brakes. Pads and rotors should be in good shape and have plenty of life on them. Wheel bearings, u-joints, etc. should all be checked out. Suspension will take a beating here. I don't recommend lifts or anything special either, just make sure your shocks are in good shape, tires have plenty of tread, etc. For your engine spares will be more readily available too.

Definitely bring extra air filters, as the roads can be very, very dusty depending on the season and where you are. If you don't have A/C, a interior fan can be nice since you may often be stuck behind poorly maintained diesel trucks belching out black smoke.

Another thing, I've never seen a tow truck here, at least in the traditional sense. Most cars/trucks are fixed on the side of the road no matter how major a repair, so having spares with you is rather important to get you to somewhere where a more proper fix can be done.

As for mods, I put in a set of 55w/100w Hella bulbs in some cleaned up stock light units and a ARB relay loom to handle the extra wattage. That made an amazing difference. I also have a set of Hella 55w fogs on the front, which I actually use a lot to illuminate the sides of the road, as there is a lot of people, bicycles, goats, children, rickshaws, broken down cars/trucks/motorcycles etc. to navigate through. I also added a set of KC rectangular backup lights to my Brownchurch rack. Those are wonderful, and they both light up the world behind you as well as warn people you are backing up. Often people will be so close to you that you can't see their headlights, or they aren't working, etc. I do have a full rack and an aluminum box on top that carries spares, a medical kit, tools, etc. I'm also adding a hi-lift jack to my kit. There are deep gutters in the sides of the roads in the hills/mountains here and if you fall into one, which is easy to do, it can be a big problem. I have done other things like an EGR delete and use a computer (nano com), but those won't apply to you. One or two jerry cans are helpful, as diesel can be difficult to get sometimes due to a poor system of state-run imports.

That's all I can think of now!

John
 
Hi David,

So I *think* you would be fine importing your 90 for tourist use, see the link below, rule 71 (interestingly Nepal has many of their laws online). Be sure to do your research, this is an area that I don't know much about since I am a resident here. I would probably get in touch with the Nepali embassy in the UK and see if they can help you out with the laws. Also I can get you in touch with a guide we use who, for a fee, could probably help navigate the complexities of Nepali law here.

http://customs.gov.np/faq/opri.php

B.S Enterprises is who I have used, the owner is Pravin Bir Singh Kansakar:
These are his landlines: 4230528, 4224099. His email is [email protected].
He speaks very good English and runs a nice parts shop that is professional, organized and if he doesn't have the part, he will call around and find it for you, which in KTM is invaluable. There's no such thing as going on the internet and finding something, or even a phone book, it's all just asking people.

My Td5 was bought here and has required a lot of work to restore it to a more drivable, road worthy condition. It was "maintained" by a local firm that I would only recommend using out of desperation. I'll give you more details by PM, but I had them do a variety of things when I first bought my 110 and it was comical how bad the work was. (The best was trying to fix a leaking heater core by covering the plastic box it is housed in with putty. And stripping the oil drain plug made for several fun evenings.)

Make sure all your steering and suspension balljoints are in good shape. (When you see the narrow roads and the cliffs that you are often only feet from with no guard rails, you'll understand what I mean!) Same with brakes. Pads and rotors should be in good shape and have plenty of life on them. Wheel bearings, u-joints, etc. should all be checked out. Suspension will take a beating here. I don't recommend lifts or anything special either, just make sure your shocks are in good shape, tires have plenty of tread, etc. For your engine spares will be more readily available too.

Definitely bring extra air filters, as the roads can be very, very dusty depending on the season and where you are. If you don't have A/C, a interior fan can be nice since you may often be stuck behind poorly maintained diesel trucks belching out black smoke.

Another thing, I've never seen a tow truck here, at least in the traditional sense. Most cars/trucks are fixed on the side of the road no matter how major a repair, so having spares with you is rather important to get you to somewhere where a more proper fix can be done.

As for mods, I put in a set of 55w/100w Hella bulbs in some cleaned up stock light units and a ARB relay loom to handle the extra wattage. That made an amazing difference. I also have a set of Hella 55w fogs on the front, which I actually use a lot to illuminate the sides of the road, as there is a lot of people, bicycles, goats, children, rickshaws, broken down cars/trucks/motorcycles etc. to navigate through. I also added a set of KC rectangular backup lights to my Brownchurch rack. Those are wonderful, and they both light up the world behind you as well as warn people you are backing up. Often people will be so close to you that you can't see their headlights, or they aren't working, etc. I do have a full rack and an aluminum box on top that carries spares, a medical kit, tools, etc. I'm also adding a hi-lift jack to my kit. There are deep gutters in the sides of the roads in the hills/mountains here and if you fall into one, which is easy to do, it can be a big problem. I have done other things like an EGR delete and use a computer (nano com), but those won't apply to you. One or two jerry cans are helpful, as diesel can be difficult to get sometimes due to a poor system of state-run imports.

That's all I can think of now!

John

Fantastic advice thank you. I am currently looking to put some rear light on the back as the reversing light doesn't cut the mustard.

Thanks for the contact details.

If its ok with you maybe i could PM you with some other questions? Should you find your self at a loose end in Katmandu or pokhara I'll repay you in beer... :)
 
This is all really good stuff. During my rather monotonous day job I've been dabbling with the idea of driving to Kathmandu next year, I'd be curious to know your take on it?

I've only got a Freelander and I cant justify (or afford) buying a Defender but I feel it should be more than up for the challenge.
 
This is all really good stuff. During my rather monotonous day job I've been dabbling with the idea of driving to Kathmandu next year, I'd be curious to know your take on it?

I've only got a Freelander and I cant justify (or afford) buying a Defender but I feel it should be more than up for the challenge.

You should do it mate. Will keep you posted on the details :)
 
Hey any updates on your trip? I'm sure others (me included) would enjoy hearing some updates!

Hello mate,

Yes, all went well

I have posted some photos in a separate thread - "india/nepal 2014 - photos" on the expedition page. Will post a written account soon

Dave
 
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