I'm foolish, and I think the V8 might have paid...

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Pete M

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....a large price.

<The Story So Far>

A few weeks back I bought a Range Rover EFi off ebay. It hadn't been on the
road for a couple of years but ran well, needed an exhaust, the LPG system
fixing, a few bits of trim here and there, in all a cheap but solid Rangie
for a sensible price. Drove it home - 290 miles, that was interesting. Thank
the lord for borrowed tradeplates... /ahem/

Gave it a good wash, checked everything was ok, oil was clean and to the
right level, antifreeze was ok, no leaks!, took it for an MOT, which one set
of wiper blades and a full exhaust later, it passed. Which was nice.

Taxed it on Tuesday morning, checked the levels again, all lovely, so I
fitted it with the bits I need in daily life, radio, phone, that kind of
stuff, found all the bits of trim - fuse box cover, door pocket, fixed the
headlining droop, found a new top tailgate and a cheap way of fixing the
central locking and happily mooched about all day.

Today I used it as my daily motor, drives well.. but tonight as I started it
I heard something not so nice, something that reminded me that despite
checking the oil daily I hadn't actually changed it yet, and that it used to
be run on LPG... which doesn't leave much crap in the oil, which means the
oil tends to stay clear for longer..... even when it's probably 3 years
old.. in a 175k mile engine... which brings me in a long winded way to my
point..

*the bit that matters is below this*

It's now got a light bottom end growl when cold at around 2800 rpm. No sign
of the oil pressure light coming on though, which I suspect means I've
knackered the big end bearings at the very least.

Will I get away with an oil flush, and filter change using decent oil? All
will be revealed later today.

--
Pete M - The Corporate Penguin.
Range Rover Vogue EFI,
Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2 *For Sale*
OMF#9

"This is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules"



 
Hi

Could be the gearbox mainshaft bearing. As I recall,Big ends tend to knock
rather than growl which is more like a roller bearing under pressure.

Regards

Geoff

"Pete M" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> ...a large price.
>
> <The Story So Far>
>
> A few weeks back I bought a Range Rover EFi off ebay. It hadn't been on

the
> road for a couple of years but ran well, needed an exhaust, the LPG system
> fixing, a few bits of trim here and there, in all a cheap but solid Rangie
> for a sensible price. Drove it home - 290 miles, that was interesting.

Thank
> the lord for borrowed tradeplates... /ahem/
>
> Gave it a good wash, checked everything was ok, oil was clean and to the
> right level, antifreeze was ok, no leaks!, took it for an MOT, which one

set
> of wiper blades and a full exhaust later, it passed. Which was nice.
>
> Taxed it on Tuesday morning, checked the levels again, all lovely, so I
> fitted it with the bits I need in daily life, radio, phone, that kind of
> stuff, found all the bits of trim - fuse box cover, door pocket, fixed the
> headlining droop, found a new top tailgate and a cheap way of fixing the
> central locking and happily mooched about all day.
>
> Today I used it as my daily motor, drives well.. but tonight as I started

it
> I heard something not so nice, something that reminded me that despite
> checking the oil daily I hadn't actually changed it yet, and that it used

to
> be run on LPG... which doesn't leave much crap in the oil, which means the
> oil tends to stay clear for longer..... even when it's probably 3 years
> old.. in a 175k mile engine... which brings me in a long winded way to my
> point..
>
> *the bit that matters is below this*
>
> It's now got a light bottom end growl when cold at around 2800 rpm. No

sign
> of the oil pressure light coming on though, which I suspect means I've
> knackered the big end bearings at the very least.
>
> Will I get away with an oil flush, and filter change using decent oil? All
> will be revealed later today.
>
> --
> Pete M - The Corporate Penguin.
> Range Rover Vogue EFI,
> Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2 *For Sale*
> OMF#9
>
> "This is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules"
>
>
>



 
Uncle Geoff wrote:
> "Pete M" <[email protected]> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
>> ...a large price.


>> *the bit that matters is below this*
>>
>> It's now got a light bottom end growl when cold at around 2800 rpm.
>> No sign of the oil pressure light coming on though, which I suspect
>> means I've knackered the big end bearings at the very least.
>>
>> Will I get away with an oil flush, and filter change using decent
>> oil? All will be revealed later today.


> Hi
>
> Could be the gearbox mainshaft bearing. As I recall,Big ends tend to
> knock rather than growl which is more like a roller bearing under
> pressure.
>
> Regards
>
> Geoff


Cheers Geoff, does that still account for Autos though??

Anyway, I changed the oil today, flushed it all, nice proper oil in it and
it's a lot quieter now. It'll still growl if blipped with no load on, so I
suspect it's the little ends. I'm probably wrong..

--
Pete M - The Corporate Penguin.
Range Rover Vogue EFI,
Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2 *For Sale*
OMF#9

"This is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules"


 
Pete M wrote:
> Uncle Geoff wrote:
> > "Pete M" <[email protected]> wrote
>> in message news:[email protected]...
>>> ...a large price.

>
>>> *the bit that matters is below this*
>>>
>>> It's now got a light bottom end growl when cold at around 2800 rpm.
>>> No sign of the oil pressure light coming on though, which I suspect
>>> means I've knackered the big end bearings at the very least.
>>>
>>> Will I get away with an oil flush, and filter change using decent
>>> oil? All will be revealed later today.

>
>> Hi
>>
>> Could be the gearbox mainshaft bearing. As I recall,Big ends tend to
>> knock rather than growl which is more like a roller bearing under
>> pressure.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Geoff

>
> Cheers Geoff, does that still account for Autos though??
>
> Anyway, I changed the oil today, flushed it all, nice proper oil in it and
> it's a lot quieter now. It'll still growl if blipped with no load on, so I
> suspect it's the little ends. I'm probably wrong..
>

Maybe its the hydraulic lifters , they dont like old oil.
Steve the grease
 
Pete M wrote:
> Uncle Geoff wrote:


>>Could be the gearbox mainshaft bearing. As I recall,Big ends tend to
>>knock rather than growl which is more like a roller bearing under
>>pressure.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Geoff

>
>
> Cheers Geoff, does that still account for Autos though??
>
> Anyway, I changed the oil today, flushed it all, nice proper oil in it and
> it's a lot quieter now. It'll still growl if blipped with no load on, so I
> suspect it's the little ends. I'm probably wrong..
>


Auto box low on oil and you're hearing the pump cavitate as it sucks
air? Or low power steer fluid causing the same to happen with it's pump?



--
EMB
 
EMB wrote:
> Pete M wrote:
>> Uncle Geoff wrote:

>
>>> Could be the gearbox mainshaft bearing. As I recall,Big ends tend to
>>> knock rather than growl which is more like a roller bearing under
>>> pressure.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Geoff

>>
>>
>> Cheers Geoff, does that still account for Autos though??
>>
>> Anyway, I changed the oil today, flushed it all, nice proper oil in
>> it and it's a lot quieter now. It'll still growl if blipped with no
>> load on, so I suspect it's the little ends. I'm probably wrong..
>>

>
> Auto box low on oil and you're hearing the pump cavitate as it sucks
> air? Or low power steer fluid causing the same to happen with it's
> pump?


Both levels are fine, strangely enough.

I suspect I could be one of the few people to have owned many Range Rover
Classics yet never had a leaky power steering system yet...

Someone's comment earlier about it possibly being the cam could well be
right, although it runs very sweetly it is down on power compared to most
Range Rovers I've owned. No smoke or anything from it, and the CO and HC
levels are both fine, although the CO is a little high - 2.5%


--
Pete M - The Corporate Penguin.
Range Rover Vogue EFI,
Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2 *For Sale*
OMF#9

"This is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules"


 
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