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Dave Gibbs

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Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin male
connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a
difficulty in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can get
them from in the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's neither. Even
the 'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!

Cheers,

Dave.
 
Dave Gibbs wrote:
>
> Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin male
> connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
> disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a
> difficulty in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can get
> them from in the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's neither. Even
> the 'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.


Oops, I of course meant female connectors, not male. At 36 you'd think
I'd know the difference between men and women by now :)

Dave.
 
Dave Gibbs wrote:

>
> Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin male
> connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
> disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a
> difficulty in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can get
> them from in the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's neither. Even
> the 'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.


Have you got the sex right? Male bits on all the bulbs that I've seen.

The female bits are available. Try auto-electricians and the old Lucas
agents.

Gordon Equipments (Durite) do one with crimp connectors, Bosch and/or
Hella did them with screw connectors.
 

"Dave Gibbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin male
> connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
> disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a difficulty
> in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can get them from in
> the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's neither. Even the
> 'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.

Did mine with replacements from the autoelectricians ( Kingtown Estate
Carlisle) very cheap to buy at about a quid each did yours look like
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/derek.watts3/plug1.jpg
Derek



 
Dougal wrote:

|| Dave Gibbs wrote:
||
|||
||| Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin
||| male connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
||| disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a
||| difficulty in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can
||| get them from in the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's
||| neither. Even the 'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!
|||
||| Cheers,
|||
||| Dave.
||
|| Have you got the sex right? Male bits on all the bulbs that I've
|| seen.
||
|| The female bits are available. Try auto-electricians and the old
|| Lucas agents.
||
|| Gordon Equipments (Durite) do one with crimp connectors, Bosch and/or
|| Hella did them with screw connectors.

Vehicle Wiring Products? Seem to have most things in that line.

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/

Brilliant online catalogue. Wasted many an hour there when I should have
been working.


--
Rich
==============================

Take out the obvious to email me.


 

"Dave Gibbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin male
> connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
> disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a
> difficulty in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can get
> them from in the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's neither. Even
> the 'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.


Any Lucas Service centre should have them, there's one at Trafford Park in
Manchester, but in case they haven't (which is unlikely) you can use small
spade connectors if you open them up sideways with a flat bladed screwdriver
and wire them separately as a temporary fix.

Martin.


 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> Dougal wrote:
>
> || Dave Gibbs wrote:
> ||
> |||
> ||| Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin
> ||| male connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
> ||| disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a
> ||| difficulty in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can
> ||| get them from in the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's
> ||| neither. Even the 'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!
> |||
> ||| Cheers,
> |||
> ||| Dave.
> ||
> || Have you got the sex right? Male bits on all the bulbs that I've
> || seen.
> ||
> || The female bits are available. Try auto-electricians and the old
> || Lucas agents.
> ||
> || Gordon Equipments (Durite) do one with crimp connectors, Bosch and/or
> || Hella did them with screw connectors.
>
> Vehicle Wiring Products? Seem to have most things in that line.
>
> http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/
>
> Brilliant online catalogue. Wasted many an hour there when I should have
> been working.


Good thinking! They're there:
http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/lights-1/lights-1.html
 
Derek wrote:
> "Dave Gibbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin male
>>connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
>>disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a difficulty
>>in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can get them from in
>>the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's neither. Even the
>>'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Dave.

>
> Did mine with replacements from the autoelectricians ( Kingtown Estate
> Carlisle) very cheap to buy at about a quid each did yours look like
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/derek.watts3/plug1.jpg
> Derek
>

Mine were much worse than that, I'm surprised I'd not had any small
fires from it. The connector just fell to bits and the spades were
black as can be. I should have photo'd them before I chucked them. I
haven't delved deeper (yet) but I suspect that the spotlights that I
removed from the bull bar were wired in the same circuit. Result of a
previous owners wiring 'skills' which I'm slowly sorting out.

Regards,

Dave.
 
Dave Gibbs wrote:
>
> Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin male
> connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
> disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a
> difficulty in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can get
> them from in the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's neither. Even
> the 'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.


Thanks for all the excellent and quick responses guys, really
appreciated. Finally I can get her peepers back together. Every time I
look at her on the drive it looks like someone's come along and poked
her eyes out!
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:40:04 +0100, Dougal wrote:

>> The 3 pin male connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt
>> away and disintegrated as I pulled them off.

>
> Have you got the sex right? Male bits on all the bulbs that I've seen.


Well that's is how I read it but ended up wondering what the problem was
just buy some new bulbs...

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"Dave Gibbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Derek wrote:
>> "Dave Gibbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Hi all. I'm replacing the headlights on my Defender. The 3 pin male
>>>connectors that go on the back of the bulb have burnt away and
>>>disintegrated as I pulled them off. I have been surprised by a
>>>difficulty in obtaining replacements, does anybody know where I can get
>>>them from in the UK? Halfrauds had nothing, and Maplin's neither. Even
>>>the 'never-let-me-down' CPC didn't have them!
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Dave.

>>
>> Did mine with replacements from the autoelectricians ( Kingtown Estate
>> Carlisle) very cheap to buy at about a quid each did yours look like
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/derek.watts3/plug1.jpg
>> Derek
>>

> Mine were much worse than that, I'm surprised I'd not had any small fires
> from it. The connector just fell to bits and the spades were black as can
> be. I should have photo'd them before I chucked them. I haven't delved
> deeper (yet) but I suspect that the spotlights that I removed from the
> bull bar were wired in the same circuit. Result of a previous owners
> wiring 'skills' which I'm slowly sorting out.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave.


The lighting connectors are away from harm in the cold its when the wiring
blocks under the dash start smoking that its time to reach for the dry
powder. I know I bang on about it but some of the connectors are so badly
made that they must have used out workers at a zoo to make them
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Ham_the_chimp.jpg

Derek
'Do you know the piano's on my foot?'


 
On or around Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:30:12 +0100, Dave Gibbs
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Mine were much worse than that, I'm surprised I'd not had any small
>fires from it. The connector just fell to bits and the spades were
>black as can be. I should have photo'd them before I chucked them. I
>haven't delved deeper (yet) but I suspect that the spotlights that I
>removed from the bull bar were wired in the same circuit. Result of a
>previous owners wiring 'skills' which I'm slowly sorting out.


I bet someone fitted over-wattage bulbs at some point.

I've seen various melted and burnt things in vehicle headlamp circuits, and
mostly it was down to overloading the system. The headlamp circuits are
designed to take 60W per lamp and 120W total. Run 200 W or 260W though it
and you're overloading it getting on for 100%, hardly surprising that this
causes trouble.

modern motors seem even more prone to this, with minimum-spec wiring and so
forth. the older ones at least had decently-fat wires. Older light
switches seem more robust too.

The moral is, if you're uprating, even just fitting a pair of 55W spots, put
relays in.

Is it CANBUS that runs a fat power circuit around the vehicle and switches
everything locally? Makes sense, if you're doing a rewire - you can do it
electromechanically, too - doesn't have to be electronic.

Run a nice fat cable all round the vehicle like a ring main, and take
suitable-sized tappings off it for relays to power up lights and suchlike
wherever you need 'em, preferably without actually breaking the main power
line - I'd do it by stripping the insulation and soldering, making sure that
the joints are then properly insulated and more to the point, secured
against vibration. the various extant circuits which currently power up the
lights, etc., can then be used to trigger local relays. Put the relays in
sensible places where they can be got at and use fused relays (or possibly
fuses in the relevant tappings)

lessee, you'd want 4 relays for indicators, 2 for rear lights, 1 or 2 for
brake lights, 2 for side lights... they're all fairly low current, so a 10A
relay would do each. Then you want one for yer horn, one each for the 4
headlamp filaments, plus one for spots and one for fogs, if fitted. Spots
needn't have individual relays, you could run 4x55W or 2x100W from a single
30A relay. The headlamp ones have one each for redundancy, in the same way
that there are 4 supply wires on modern vehicles to the headlamps, and 4
fuses.



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Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:30:12 +0100, Dave Gibbs
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Mine were much worse than that, I'm surprised I'd not had any small
>>fires from it. The connector just fell to bits and the spades were
>>black as can be. I should have photo'd them before I chucked them. I
>>haven't delved deeper (yet) but I suspect that the spotlights that I
>>removed from the bull bar were wired in the same circuit. Result of a
>>previous owners wiring 'skills' which I'm slowly sorting out.

>
> I bet someone fitted over-wattage bulbs at some point.
>

(snip)

Not necessarily - the LH headlight socket on my 110 (which has never had
higher than standard bulbs) failed - and the rather dubious looking
replacement did a few months later - this second failure was clearly due to
a high resistance connection between the earth spade and the wire. The
second replacement I shopped round until I found a better looking
replacement. Another problem was the fumes from original one overheating
ruined the reflector on the light.
JD
 
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