Greenpeace at it again ;-)

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David Sillitoe.

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Check this out... From the BBC website:-

A number of Greenpeace protestors have entered a UK Land Rover factory and
disrupted production at the plant.

The environmental action group says 35 of its members breached security at
the plant at Solihull in the West Midlands.

Greenpeace says the action is in protest at what is claims are the "climate
wrecking" emissions from Range Rovers, Land Rover's premium model.

Land Rover confirmed the incident had taken place but said only a "small
part" of the plant had been affected.

Ho ho...

David.

Defender 110 CSW.

 

"David Sillitoe." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BEAE1A8A.53CE%[email protected]...
> Check this out... From the BBC website:-
>
> A number of Greenpeace protestors have entered a UK Land Rover factory and
> disrupted production at the plant.
>
> The environmental action group says 35 of its members breached security at
> the plant at Solihull in the West Midlands.
>
> Greenpeace says the action is in protest at what is claims are the
> "climate
> wrecking" emissions from Range Rovers, Land Rover's premium model.
>
> Land Rover confirmed the incident had taken place but said only a "small
> part" of the plant had been affected.
>
> Ho ho...
>
> David.
>
> Defender 110 CSW.
>

Retards, what the hell will this do for the cause?


 
"/\/ / & E" <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> Ho ho...
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Defender 110 CSW.
>>
>
> Retards, what the hell will this do for the cause?

Given the Greenlane article later it could just swing public imagination
against 4x4s when it all hits the news.

What are the Rangie figures and how does it compare to other green
vehicles??

Lee D


 

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "/\/ / & E" <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>> Ho ho...
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Defender 110 CSW.
>>>
>>
>> Retards, what the hell will this do for the cause?
>
> Given the Greenlane article later it could just swing public imagination
> against 4x4s when it all hits the news.
>

They make me puke this type of gob****e, just as usual, a new cause to
fight.

> What are the Rangie figures and how does it compare to other green
> vehicles??

Not exactly apples for apples though. lets just see what happens.


 
i wonder what the emissions are like for their rusting old hulk of a ship
the rainbow warrior
"/\/ / & E" <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "/\/ / & E" <nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Ho ho...
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Defender 110 CSW.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Retards, what the hell will this do for the cause?
>>
>> Given the Greenlane article later it could just swing public imagination
>> against 4x4s when it all hits the news.
>>
>
> They make me puke this type of gob****e, just as usual, a new cause to
> fight.
>
>> What are the Rangie figures and how does it compare to other green
>> vehicles??
>
> Not exactly apples for apples though. lets just see what happens.
>


 
"dale hammond" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]
> i wonder what the emissions are like for their rusting old hulk of a
> ship the rainbow warrior

Sea-going vessels' emissions are not regulated in any way.
These vessels are responsible for one-third (!) of the air pollution
worldwide.


 
On Mon, 16 May 2005 11:00:08 +0000 (UTC), "dale hammond"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>i wonder what the emissions are like for their rusting old hulk of a ship
>the rainbow warrior

I think it's fairly safe to say that the Rainbow Warrior creates
absolutely NO harmful emissions...

 
Mother wrote:

> On Mon, 16 May 2005 11:00:08 +0000 (UTC), "dale hammond"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>i wonder what the emissions are like for their rusting old hulk of a ship
>>the rainbow warrior
>
> I think it's fairly safe to say that the Rainbow Warrior creates
> absolutely NO harmful emissions...

Even when lying on the bottom of a harbour with a hole in its side?

P.


--
1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel
 
On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:04:48 +0100, "/\\/ / & E"
<nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote:

>Retards, what the hell will this do for the cause?

Don't s'pose anyone'd consider that Greenpeace may actually have an
ickle bit of a valid point here, eh?

 

"Mother" wrote>
>>Retards, what the hell will this do for the cause?
>
> Don't s'pose anyone'd consider that Greenpeace may actually have an
> ickle bit of a valid point here, eh?

No none at all, they are just yobs out to have fun paid for by the gullible.

--
Regards
Bob
1974 S111 SWB 2.25 petrol Hardtop (For Sale)
1987 90 2.5 petrol Hardtop


 
I think the problem is that these Greenpeace people are singling LR out
amongst many... That's tokenistic and just plain stupid. Sadly it also
smacks of the politics of envy, something they seen to know plenty about.

Btw, what the **** is 'ickle'?

> Don't s'pose anyone'd consider that Greenpeace may actually have an
> ickle bit of a valid point here, eh?
>

 
In article <[email protected]>, aghasee
<[email protected]> writes
>"dale hammond" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>news:[email protected]
>> i wonder what the emissions are like for their rusting old hulk of a
>> ship the rainbow warrior
>
>Sea-going vessels' emissions are not regulated in any way.
>These vessels are responsible for one-third (!) of the air pollution
>worldwide.
>
>


The suggestion that shipping creates one third of world air pollution
comes from the same idiot sources that think any kind of concern for man
made carbon emissions is some kind of pinko liberal plot to destroy
society. These red necked morons make the inbreds, as portrayed in the
film Deliverance, seem intelligent. Per tonne mile, diesel ships are
actually the most energy efficient powered vehicles.

The Rainbow Warrior is actually one of the cleanest powered vessels in
the world. Not only is she equipped with sophisticated anti pollution
and oil recycling systems and one of the most thermally efficient
engines in the world, she is also equipped with a two masted sailing
rig. Most of the time on ocean voyages she proceeds under sail. Not to
be confused with the crass hot air of male bovine manure.

One of the ironic things about Land rovers is that they are greener than
most other cars. I understand that it would take most cars about 30
years of motoring to equal the carbon emissions produced during its own
manufacture. Since the average life span of the average private car is
allegedly only eleven years and that of the average Land Rover is more
than twice as long, the Land Rover should be at the top of the green
'brigades' list of favourite vehicles. Furthermore, in terms of global
impact, diesels are nearly twice as 'earth friendly' as petrols.


John Lubran


 
On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:56:33 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> Don't s'pose anyone'd consider that Greenpeace may actually have an
>> ickle bit of a valid point here, eh?
>
>No none at all,

And you have empirical evidence to support this assertion?



 
On Mon, 16 May 2005 16:25:58 +0200, "aghasee"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"dale hammond" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>news:[email protected]
>> i wonder what the emissions are like for their rusting old hulk of a
>> ship the rainbow warrior
>
>Sea-going vessels' emissions are not regulated in any way.
>These vessels are responsible for one-third (!) of the air pollution
>worldwide.
>
There was a program on tv not long ago that claimed that air traffic
produced a large amount of it too (much moe than cars)

Does/is tax on aviation fuel go/going up at the same rates as car
fuel? (doesnt look like it from the decreasing cost of flights!)
 
On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:39:10 +0100, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:04:48 +0100, "/\\/ / & E"
><nigel.ince****[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Retards, what the hell will this do for the cause?
>
>Don't s'pose anyone'd consider that Greenpeace may actually have an
>ickle bit of a valid point here, eh?

They do have some valid points at times, but it does seem like there
could be better targets to direct the protesting at.
 
Used to come into contact with this type of nutter at Uni years ago. Good
whilst it's the cred thing to do; wait until one of them or their family
need the results ( eg drugs from research or rescue by said vehicle ) that
certainly sorts out the Saturday warriors from the real concerned end of the
population.

Used to know the guy who is now head of the police complaints authority; I
wonder what Sunday tabloids pay these days ? :))


"David Sillitoe." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BEAE1A8A.53CE%[email protected]...
> Check this out... From the BBC website:-
>
> A number of Greenpeace protestors have entered a UK Land Rover factory and
> disrupted production at the plant.
>
> The environmental action group says 35 of its members breached security at
> the plant at Solihull in the West Midlands.
>
> Greenpeace says the action is in protest at what is claims are the
"climate
> wrecking" emissions from Range Rovers, Land Rover's premium model.
>
> Land Rover confirmed the incident had taken place but said only a "small
> part" of the plant had been affected.
>
> Ho ho...
>
> David.
>
> Defender 110 CSW.
>


 
Exactly... Like aircraft and the proliferation of airports for example.

> They do have some valid points at times, but it does seem like there
> could be better targets to direct the protesting at.


 
Tom Woods wrote:

> They do have some valid points at times, but it does seem like there
> could be better targets to direct the protesting at.

Like the roughly £12 million spent annually ferrying government
ministers and senior civil servants around. It's our money, of course,
so that probably doesn't count.
 
so Tom Woods was, like...
>
> There was a program on tv not long ago that claimed that air traffic
> produced a large amount of it too (much moe than cars)
>
> Does/is tax on aviation fuel go/going up at the same rates as car
> fuel? (doesnt look like it from the decreasing cost of flights!)

Er - I don't think they pay tax on aviation fuel. Bit of a ****er, really.
And yes, air traffic causes more air pollution than all the cars in the
world, and of course it's delivered right up there where it can do the most
damage. But hey, we wouldn't want to lose our cheap air fares to Ibiza, now
would we?*

Anyone serious about cutting pollution would look at taxing aviation fuel
first, and only look at the minor contribution made by cars when that had
been brought under control.

*Speaking as someone who would rather walk any distance than board an
aircraft :)

--
Rich
==============================
RR 4.6HSE (up for sale)
S2a SWB (not for sale)
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
"Moving Vision" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>, aghasee
> <[email protected]> writes
>> "dale hammond" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>> news:[email protected]
>>> i wonder what the emissions are like for their rusting old hulk of a
>>> ship the rainbow warrior
>>
>> Sea-going vessels' emissions are not regulated in any way.
>> These vessels are responsible for one-third (!) of the air pollution
>> worldwide.
>>
>>
>
>
> The suggestion that shipping creates one third of world air pollution
> comes from the same idiot sources that think any kind of concern for
> man made carbon emissions is some kind of pinko liberal plot to
> destroy society. These red necked morons make the inbreds, as
> portrayed in the film Deliverance, seem intelligent. Per tonne mile,
> diesel ships are actually the most energy efficient powered vehicles.

The most energy efficient powered vehicles per tonne per mile, true, but
still they aren't emissions regulated *and* they do pollute as hell.
Fuel consumption is expressed in metric tonnes per hour on these
carriers, you know.

> The Rainbow Warrior is actually one of the cleanest powered vessels in
> the world. Not only is she equipped with sophisticated anti pollution
> and oil recycling systems and one of the most thermally efficient
> engines in the world, she is also equipped with a two masted sailing
> rig. Most of the time on ocean voyages she proceeds under sail. Not to

Major bull****. See comment above.

> be confused with the crass hot air of male bovine manure.
>
> One of the ironic things about Land rovers is that they are greener
> than most other cars. I understand that it would take most cars about
> 30 years of motoring to equal the carbon emissions produced during
> its own manufacture. Since the average life span of the average
> private car is allegedly only eleven years and that of the average
> Land Rover is more than twice as long, the Land Rover should be at
> the top of the green 'brigades' list of favourite vehicles.

Agreed.

> Furthermore, in terms of global impact, diesels are nearly twice as
> 'earth friendly' as petrols.

Again major bull****. Diesels just pollute in other areas, not less.


 
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