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Just found out I definately need to replce the plugs on 300 Tdi. Quoted £ 16
each for plugs but on RCV site they give 3 types all for 300 Tdi. 2 types
at ~ £5 and the Champion ones at £15 each. Am I missing something or is it
simply a case of ... yer gets wot yer pays for ....

I assume the Champion plugs are miles better ???

John H

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Hirsty's wrote:
>
> Just found out I definately need to replce the plugs on 300 Tdi. Quoted £ 16
> each for plugs but on RCV site they give 3 types all for 300 Tdi. 2 types
> at ~ £5 and the Champion ones at £15 each. Am I missing something or is it
> simply a case of ... yer gets wot yer pays for ....
>
> I assume the Champion plugs are miles better ???
>


Are you sure you have to replace them all.
Mostly, if there are any problems, just one has gone.
Test them first and replace just the bad one(s).
It is NOT said that if one has gone the others will soon follow..
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.


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"Erik-Jan Geniets" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Hirsty's wrote:
>>
>> Just found out I definately need to replce the plugs on 300 Tdi. Quoted £
>> 16
>> each for plugs but on RCV site they give 3 types all for 300 Tdi. 2
>> types
>> at ~ £5 and the Champion ones at £15 each. Am I missing something or is
>> it
>> simply a case of ... yer gets wot yer pays for ....
>>
>> I assume the Champion plugs are miles better ???
>>

>
> Are you sure you have to replace them all.
> Mostly, if there are any problems, just one has gone.
> Test them first and replace just the bad one(s).
> It is NOT said that if one has gone the others will soon follow..
> Kind regards,
> Erik-Jan.
>



I only paid a tenner each for mine at "Motomania" but I think they are only
£8 plus vat from LR and all four of mine had gone. It is fitted with EDS and
was a bugger to start without heat.

Peter.


 


> Are you sure you have to replace them all.
> Mostly, if there are any problems, just one has gone.
> Test them first and replace just the bad one(s).
> It is NOT said that if one has gone the others will soon follow..
> Kind regards,
> Erik-Jan.


Yup, had them tested and instead of pulling 80 they only pulled 40 whatever
so it looks like one or more are up the creek. I reckon it's probably worth
doing them all at same time, just like changing the cells in a torch; leave
a weak one and the others will have to carry it for a while. The cost
difference shocked me though.


 

"Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> > Are you sure you have to replace them all.
> > Mostly, if there are any problems, just one has gone.
> > Test them first and replace just the bad one(s).
> > It is NOT said that if one has gone the others will soon follow..
> > Kind regards,
> > Erik-Jan.

>
> Yup, had them tested and instead of pulling 80 they only pulled 40

whatever
> so it looks like one or more are up the creek. I reckon it's probably

worth
> doing them all at same time, just like changing the cells in a torch;

leave
> a weak one and the others will have to carry it for a while. The cost
> difference shocked me though.


Well.. glow plugs are wired in series, not paralell like torch batteries,
which is why you still have 2 of them working while the other 2 are dead,

Of course if the plugs are easy to get at, then change all of em.. some
engines have one plug that's a pain to get at.. usually tucked behind the
injection pump mounting brackets (not landrover specific here) of course
that's the one that's likely to be gone :)

When you pull the old glow plugs, have a look at them as they come out of
their respective holes.. any that are eaten away, or have big lumpy deposits
on them indicate that cylinders injector isn't firing cleanly.

As for the differance in price.. it's the same with everything, the champion
ones your paying for the brand name most likely.. but some times cheapest
isnt always best.. Halfords own brand glow plugs have always been poor with
my vehicles, every single vehicle i'd fitted halfords brand glow plugs to
had at least one dead by the next winter...

ok they will change the dead ones for good uns when you take them back.. but
it only happens again later on,

If i'm buying the plugs for my own vehicles then i go for bosch ones, but
that'll be never for the next few years, as my current vehicle is direct
injection.. and has a thermostarter system.. at minus 2 degrees it uses a
single glow plug and injector combined to squirt hot diesel into the inlet
manifold as your cranking the engine, (kinda like squirting easy start down
the intake)

Never had this engine need more than 4 revolutions to fire up.. even in sub
zero temps, kinda makes me never want to go back to indirect injection
engines :)


 


Hairy Arse wrote:

>
> Well.. glow plugs are wired in series, not paralell like torch batteries,
> which is why you still have 2 of them working while the other 2 are dead,


It is the other way around.
Glow plugs > paralell
Torch Batt. > Series
If a glow plug breaks down the internal resitance will become higher or
infinite.
This is why the others do still work.
In series the whole system would break down.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.


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On or around Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:10:20 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>
>Hairy Arse wrote:
>
>>
>> Well.. glow plugs are wired in series, not paralell like torch batteries,
>> which is why you still have 2 of them working while the other 2 are dead,

>
>It is the other way around.
>Glow plugs > paralell
>Torch Batt. > Series
>If a glow plug breaks down the internal resitance will become higher or
>infinite.
>This is why the others do still work.
>In series the whole system would break down.


There are some engines that are series-wired.

 


Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> On or around Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:10:20 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >
> >
> >Hairy Arse wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Well.. glow plugs are wired in series, not paralell like torch batteries,
> >> which is why you still have 2 of them working while the other 2 are dead,

> >
> >It is the other way around.
> >Glow plugs > paralell
> >Torch Batt. > Series
> >If a glow plug breaks down the internal resitance will become higher or
> >infinite.
> >This is why the others do still work.
> >In series the whole system would break down.

>
> There are some engines that are series-wired.


O.K.
If so, you really have a problem if one breaks down.
You could always try to short-cricuit the broken one but it will give
higher power to the remaining ones. Do not know if they will last in
that case.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.


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