gearbox-bollox-arse

The garage got my 'box out of the disco, unbolted the selector bit off the
top, unbolted the one off the RR one which I'd hoped to have put in (the
latter is in decent condition, too) and the sods have different selector
shafts.

f*ck.

meanwhile, I'm amazed that the one in mine still drives - there's more play
in the shaft/gear than the width of the splines.


so...

anyone got a decent S/H gearbox from a *disco* V8, LT77 or R380, with T-box,
within reach of me tomorrow to sell?


Been quoted 450 to strip the parts (shaft and T-box gear, I assume) and
replace 'em, which considering the amount of work involved and the parts
needed is probably not too silly; so obviously, I'm not into paying more
than that for a S/H box unless it's very good and has a provable history.

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On or around Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:08:18 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>The garage got my 'box out of the disco, unbolted the selector bit off the
>top, unbolted the one off the RR one which I'd hoped to have put in (the
>latter is in decent condition, too) and the sods have different selector
>shafts.
>
>f*ck.

heyho. 570 + a new transfer gear will hopefully get me a recon 'box with
now back-end play by tomorrow lunchtime, if everyone plays ball as they're
meant to.

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Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"'Tis a mad world, my masters" John Taylor (1580-1633) Western Voyage, 1

Austin,

At the point you're at with this I'd be tempted just to stump up the £450
and know that the box will last a good long time.

You could save £75-£100 finding a second hand unit and find yourself in the
same position 12 months down the line. But then you could be lucky.

Unless of course replacing the entire thing is solving some other problems
at the same time.

Now if it was £900 - £1000 to strip and repair I'd go with a second had
unit.

I just figure your at a break even point here, and the repair probably gives
more piece of mind, and possibly comeback if you get a failure soon after
completion.

Alan M.



> Been quoted 450 to strip the parts (shaft and T-box gear, I assume) and
> replace 'em, which considering the amount of work involved and the parts
> needed is probably not too silly; so obviously, I'm not into paying more
> than that for a S/H box unless it's very good and has a provable history.

On or around Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:48:04 +0000 (UTC), "Alan Mudd"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin,
>
>I just figure your at a break even point here, and the repair probably gives
>more piece of mind, and possibly comeback if you get a failure soon after
>completion.

applied the same logic to a recon box... this will get me a guaranteed recon
box and a new Tbox input gear.

the repair wasn't that much less and probably not guaranteed.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Once, when the secrets of science were the jealously guarded property of
a small priesthood, the common man had no hope of mastering their arcane
complexities. Years of study in musty classrooms were prerequisite to
obtaining even a dim, incoherent knowledge of science.
Today, all that has changed: a dim, incoherent knowledge of science is
available to anyone. - Tom Weller, Science Made Stupid, 1986

Looks like a coin toss decision then Austin.

With that little in it, I'd go with what made me feel more comfortable.

Alan M.


> applied the same logic to a recon box... this will get me a guaranteed
> recon
> box and a new Tbox input gear.
>
> the repair wasn't that much less and probably not guaranteed.

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> The garage got my 'box out of the disco, unbolted the selector bit off the
> top, unbolted the one off the RR one which I'd hoped to have put in (the
> latter is in decent condition, too) and the sods have different selector
> shafts.
>
> f*ck.

You can modify them, assuming you're trying to convert a 'short stick' box
to 'long stick'. I did it once on an LT77 for a 90, all you need to do is
get the input dog off the respective shafts and swap them over by drilling
the new roll-pin hole in the right place, then the covers will swap. I don't
remember it being any more difficult than that, but then it was a few years
ago now.

> meanwhile, I'm amazed that the one in mine still drives - there's more
> play
> in the shaft/gear than the width of the splines.

Close to shearing point, then?

> so...
>
> anyone got a decent S/H gearbox from a *disco* V8, LT77 or R380, with
> T-box,
> within reach of me tomorrow to sell?

Sorry, no box and too far away even if I had one.

> Been quoted 450 to strip the parts (shaft and T-box gear, I assume) and
> replace 'em, which considering the amount of work involved and the parts
> needed is probably not too silly; so obviously, I'm not into paying more
> than that for a S/H box unless it's very good and has a provable history.

Hmmmmmm..... Last one I rebuilt (for a local garage that didn't fancy
opening the box up!) cost £95 for the shaft, £60 for the input gear, £50 or
so for a new "ferrobestos" bush (they tend to get destroyed during removal)
and layshaft bearings (while I was in there anyway, silly not to) and £15 or
so for the gaskets/seals. All prices being approximate, that adds up to
aroundabout £220, plus labour. I did the rebuild in about 4 hours, if that
gives you anything to go by. Just make sure they know how to shim the
layshaft bearings properly (assuming LT77, as I said earlier.).
Badger.

On or around Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:40:54 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>You can modify them, assuming you're trying to convert a 'short stick' box
>to 'long stick'. I did it once on an LT77 for a 90, all you need to do is
>get the input dog off the respective shafts and swap them over by drilling
>the new roll-pin hole in the right place, then the covers will swap. I don't
>remember it being any more difficult than that, but then it was a few years
>ago now.
>
not on this one. The selector shaft on the RR box is longer, and has a
different end; also the top of the box where the gearchange lever casting
goes, with the selector shaft in it, has an extra web across the middle.
The Disco one, by contrast, has no web, shorter shaft and the kind of end
which has a partly-spherical nylon bush with a hole in it. Can't take
pictures, the other one's gone back.

It would've been possible to strip the box and rebuild the correct
combination; but that'd have required using the internals of the RR box with
the housing of the disco box, which seemed like a lot of work for
questionable gain.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.