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Richard Brookman

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That got your attention!

A mystery with the rear air suspension on my Disco 2.

All fine driving home and parking last night, and nothing seemed amiss this
morning, but 100 yards down the road, the ride was so choppy that I thought
I'd set off in the S2a. I even got out to check for a puncture. The car
seemed to be tilting to one side, and when I got to work the o/s/r
suspension was down on the bumpstops, and the n/s front wing pointing to the
sky.

I rasied the suspension to "extended" height and left it there while I was
at work. It didn't deflate over several hours, and I then lowered it to
normal height and drove home normally.

I suspect the fault happened between getting in the car and reaching the end
of the lane - about 100 yards, as I didn't notice anything wrong when I got
in. The only relevant thing I can think of is that it was a coldish night
(-3C this morning) and when I got in I immediately put all the winter
functions on (rear and windscreen heaters, heated seat etc - well, it's a
new toy, innit?). That's a pretty hefty load, but I can't see why it should
affect the suspension. I can't think of anything else that might have
caused it at that moment.

The car is still under warranty, but from a non-LR dealer, so I'd like to
have some idea of what is wrong before I take it in to them.

Any ideas? TIA.

--
Rich
==============================

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


 
....and Richard Brookman spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...

Rude to answer your own posts, so sorry, but -

I assume that the fact it didn't leak over several hours in the company car
park rules out a leak in the air-bag?


--
Rich
==============================

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> ...and Richard Brookman spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
> Rude to answer your own posts, so sorry, but -
>
> I assume that the fact it didn't leak over several hours in the company car
> park rules out a leak in the air-bag?
>
>


Could be a sticky valve venting to air?
 

Richard Brookman wrote:
> ...and Richard Brookman spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
> Rude to answer your own posts, so sorry, but -
>
> I assume that the fact it didn't leak over several hours in the company car
> park rules out a leak in the air-bag?
>
>
> --
> Rich
> ==============================
>
> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

I reckon it's God punishing you for having such a nice motor..........

Dave

 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:28:42 +0000, Nige wrote:

>> I assume that the fact it didn't leak over several hours in the
>> company car park rules out a leak in the air-bag?

Probably.

> Could be a sticky valve venting to air?

As it appears to have been a one-off that is my thoughts.

The amber ACE light ("I'm not happy but you can still drive" rather
than the red "STOP NOW!") came on one cold morning a few weeks back on
my DII. Dropped the kids off, restarted, no light and it's been fine
since. It's a DII it does that sort of thing...

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Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
....and Dave Liquorice spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:28:42 +0000, Nige wrote:
>
>>> I assume that the fact it didn't leak over several hours in the
>>> company car park rules out a leak in the air-bag?
>
> Probably.
>
>> Could be a sticky valve venting to air?

Any way to unsticky them? Looking at the manual, it looks like the air
supply unit is mighty complex. If it was a squirt of WD40, then OK, but...

>
> As it appears to have been a one-off that is my thoughts.
>
> The amber ACE light ("I'm not happy but you can still drive" rather
> than the red "STOP NOW!") came on one cold morning a few weeks back on
> my DII. Dropped the kids off, restarted, no light and it's been fine
> since. It's a DII it does that sort of thing...

It may have been a one-off (time will tell) but it will nag me for ages that
something isn't quite right. At no point did any warning lights come on,
amber or red. The SLS fault light stayed off.

It was pretty weird, looking out of the window at work (at your car, like
you do) and thinking it was just starting to cross a particularly sharp
ridge, when in fact it was parked with the engine off.

I'll keep and eye on it for a few days, than try to forget it ever happened.

Thanks

--
Rich
==============================

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


 
The fact that you left it at work in 'extended height mode' may mean
that it then wouldn't leak.The bags have a habit of only leaking in one
position, depending on on how they're folded in that height setting.
Pete.

 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:47:34 -0000, Richard Brookman wrote:

> It may have been a one-off (time will tell) but it will nag me for
> ages that something isn't quite right.

Quite, I was a bit nervous after the ACE light came on. I have a nasty
feeling that a DII without ACE goes around corners like bricks float.

Still when it goes in for the next service I'll mention it and see
what the computers have to say.

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Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:07:09 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> That got your attention!
>
>A mystery with the rear air suspension on my Disco 2.
>
Since it does not seem to be a problem with your air bags this is not
quite relevant, but may be of interest anyway.

My friend with a D2 ES (just been flogged and replaced with a D3 HSE)
had leaky bags and, then replaced them with some supposedly almost new
ones, from a wreckeed vehicle, and they too leaked after a short
while.

Being a avid mountain biker, he thought stuff this, and put some of
that puncture fixing slime (not the not the tin of stuff used for
inflating tires) into the aribags. He ran it for many miles/months
therafter without any problems whatsoever.

Regards
stephen
 
In message <[email protected]>
"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ...and Richard Brookman spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
> Rude to answer your own posts, so sorry, but -
>
> I assume that the fact it didn't leak over several hours in the company car
> park rules out a leak in the air-bag?
>
>

I wouldn't rule that out - it's not unknown for the bags to only
leak when fully extended. Jack the appropriate corner up to
extend the bag and have a listen (the compressor may keep running too
if a leak is not audible).

Richard
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On or around Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:29:10 +0200, fanie
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:07:09 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That got your attention!
>>
>>A mystery with the rear air suspension on my Disco 2.
>>
>Since it does not seem to be a problem with your air bags this is not
>quite relevant, but may be of interest anyway.
>
>My friend with a D2 ES (just been flogged and replaced with a D3 HSE)
>had leaky bags and, then replaced them with some supposedly almost new
>ones, from a wreckeed vehicle, and they too leaked after a short
>while.
>
>Being a avid mountain biker, he thought stuff this, and put some of
>that puncture fixing slime (not the not the tin of stuff used for
>inflating tires) into the aribags. He ran it for many miles/months
>therafter without any problems whatsoever.

if the bags are leaky anyway, there's nothing to lose.
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"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ...and Richard Brookman spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
> Rude to answer your own posts, so sorry, but -
>
> I assume that the fact it didn't leak over several hours in the company
> car park rules out a leak in the air-bag?

<jealous>

It's natures way of telling you to go on a diet ;-)

</jealous>

Lee
--
www.lrproject.com



 
....and [email protected] spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> The fact that you left it at work in 'extended height mode' may mean
> that it then wouldn't leak.The bags have a habit of only leaking in
> one position, depending on on how they're folded in that height
> setting. Pete.

Thanks for this. I actually left it in extended mode for the morning, then
lowered it, went for a drive and left it for the afternoon in normal mode.
(Left out of original post for brevity.) It didn't leak at all - and was
still OK this morning after a night on the drive. Looks like the bags are
OK.

--
Rich
==============================

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


 
....and beamendsltd spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> In message <[email protected]>
> "Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That got your attention!
>>
> <snip>
>
> It did - I thought you'd met my ex-mother in law!
>
> Richard

I was thinking of mine when I posted! (Ex MIL, that is. Current one is 92
and brilliant company.)

--
Rich
==============================

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


 
....and Lee_D spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> "Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> ...and Richard Brookman spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>
>> Rude to answer your own posts, so sorry, but -
>>
>> I assume that the fact it didn't leak over several hours in the
>> company car park rules out a leak in the air-bag?
>
> <jealous>
>
> It's natures way of telling you to go on a diet ;-)
>
> </jealous>
>
> Lee

Lee, that was uncalled for. Burgers at dawn.

--
Rich
==============================

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.


 
"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lee, that was uncalled for. Burgers at dawn.
>
> --
> Rich
> ==============================
>
> Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

Your on...I'll bring the mayo and Ketchup. :)

Lee


 
On or around Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:26:06 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>...and [email protected] spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
>
>> The fact that you left it at work in 'extended height mode' may mean
>> that it then wouldn't leak.The bags have a habit of only leaking in
>> one position, depending on on how they're folded in that height
>> setting. Pete.
>
>Thanks for this. I actually left it in extended mode for the morning, then
>lowered it, went for a drive and left it for the afternoon in normal mode.
>(Left out of original post for brevity.) It didn't leak at all - and was
>still OK this morning after a night on the drive. Looks like the bags are
>OK.

I reckon it was a height sensor throwing a wobbler. Or the brain got
confused.

they should fit CTRL ALT and DEL buttons to the dash to reset it :)
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the jollyrodgered sea." Dylan Thomas (1914 - 1953) Under milk wood
 
Austin Shackles wrote:

> they should fit CTRL ALT and DEL buttons to the dash to reset it :)

Bugger that - running MS Windoze in a vehicle would make the old Lucas
electrics seem like the pinnacle of reliability.



--
EMB
 
On or around Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:52:26 +1300, EMB <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> they should fit CTRL ALT and DEL buttons to the dash to reset it :)
>
>Bugger that - running MS Windoze in a vehicle would make the old Lucas
>electrics seem like the pinnacle of reliability.

you sure they don't? :)

ISTR a ****take about that, summat about a car breaking down and one of the
occupants working for microsoft...
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Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
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