discovery II - which winter tyres ?

Hi,
i am going to buy winter tyres for my 2000 Discovery Series II, and i am
looking for the Michelin 4x4 Alpine, Wrangler Ultra Grip or the
Continental 4x4 Wintercontact,
Dimension is 255 65 16 . The usage is primary on road.

Any hints about which one to choose ?

Thank you in advance for any help

Reinhard

PS : sorry about my english, but i am from austria so my native language
is german

so Reinhard Swietli was, like...

> i am going to buy winter tyres for my 2000 Discovery Series II, and i
> am looking for the Michelin 4x4 Alpine, Wrangler Ultra Grip or the
> Continental 4x4 Wintercontact,
> Dimension is 255 65 16 . The usage is primary on road.
>
> PS : sorry about my english, but i am from austria so my native
> language is german

If the snow is going to be well packed, why not the BFG ATs? Or perhaps a
full Mud Terrain if you're expecting soft stuff.

And your English is fine.

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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:14:48 +0100, Richard Brookman wrote:

> If the snow is going to be well packed, why not the BFG ATs? Or
> perhaps a full Mud Terrain if you're expecting soft stuff.

I've been looking at tread patterns and the differences between mud
and snow tyres. Mud tyres have big chunky blocks, snow tyres have lots
of sipes(*) along with smaller blocks. As I understand it the grip
from snow tyres comes from the edges of the sipes and blocks, the more
edges, the more grip.

Then of course there is the rubber compound, winter tyres remain
softer at lower temperatures (below 7C) than summer or "all season"
tyres. Again this allows better contact between the tyre and surface,
thus more grip. As mud will be frozen at low temperatures I don't
think you'll find a "winter" mud tyre as such.

If I had the money I'd be buying true winter tyres now and then
another set of "summer" ones spring next year. As I don't I'm looking
at a compromise and Pirelli Scorpion S/T seem to have a decent block
pattern and plenty of sipes when compared against other "all season"
tyres from the likes of Michelin, Goodyear etc. I've not really looked
at winter tyres but I'd add the Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow to the OPs
list.

> And your English is fine.

Agreed, far far better than my German.

(*) Sipes the narrow cuts into the faces of the blocks.

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I read one of the many 'special features' on tyres in LR owner or LR
Monthly. It was about choosing the right tyre for driving on specific
surfaces. The feature said, for snow you can't beat M+S tyres, but mud
terrains come a close second. If I could afford it, I would choose M+S
tyres, because along with snow on roads you inevitably come across ice and
wet tarmac. Mud terrains are not so much use on wet tarmac and ice.

Stew.

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"Reinhard Swietli" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> i am going to buy winter tyres for my 2000 Discovery Series II, and i am
> looking for the Michelin 4x4 Alpine, Wrangler Ultra Grip or the
> Continental 4x4 Wintercontact,
> Dimension is 255 65 16 . The usage is primary on road.
>
> Any hints about which one to choose ?
>
> Thank you in advance for any help
>
> Reinhard
>
> PS : sorry about my english, but i am from austria so my native language
> is german

Depends on the sort of snow...

Narrow tyres that cut down through to the road are best if its shallow and
soft, for example.


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T

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"90ninety" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I read one of the many 'special features' on tyres in LR owner or LR
>Monthly. It was about choosing the right tyre for driving on specific
>surfaces. The feature said, for snow you can't beat M+S tyres, but mud
>terrains come a close second. If I could afford it, I would choose M+S
>tyres, because along with snow on roads you inevitably come across ice and
>wet tarmac. Mud terrains are not so much use on wet tarmac and ice.
>
> Stew.
>
> --
> 1990 Ninety 2.5 n/a D (Jasmine) - the off-road toy
> Ex- Freelander Td4 5dr owner - the worst vehicle I have ever had!!!
> New Jeep Cherokee Ltd 2.8CRD Auto - freelander replacement.
>
>
> "Reinhard Swietli" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi,
>> i am going to buy winter tyres for my 2000 Discovery Series II, and i am
>> looking for the Michelin 4x4 Alpine, Wrangler Ultra Grip or the
>> Continental 4x4 Wintercontact,
>> Dimension is 255 65 16 . The usage is primary on road.
>>
>> Any hints about which one to choose ?
>>
>> Thank you in advance for any help
>>
>> Reinhard
>>
>> PS : sorry about my english, but i am from austria so my native language
>> is german
>
>

That reminded me of British Rail having problems with the wrong kind of snow
in the olden days! They managed to find new excuses all the time.

"'T'" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Depends on the sort of snow...
>
> Narrow tyres that cut down through to the road are best if its shallow and
> soft, for example.
>
>
> --
> T
>
> Defender XS90
>
> "90ninety" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I read one of the many 'special features' on tyres in LR owner or LR
>>Monthly. It was about choosing the right tyre for driving on specific
>>surfaces. The feature said, for snow you can't beat M+S tyres, but mud
>>terrains come a close second. If I could afford it, I would choose M+S
>>tyres, because along with snow on roads you inevitably come across ice and
>>wet tarmac. Mud terrains are not so much use on wet tarmac and ice.
>>
>> Stew.
>>
>> --
>> 1990 Ninety 2.5 n/a D (Jasmine) - the off-road toy
>> Ex- Freelander Td4 5dr owner - the worst vehicle I have ever had!!!
>> New Jeep Cherokee Ltd 2.8CRD Auto - freelander replacement.
>>
>>
>> "Reinhard Swietli" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Hi,
>>> i am going to buy winter tyres for my 2000 Discovery Series II, and i am
>>> looking for the Michelin 4x4 Alpine, Wrangler Ultra Grip or the
>>> Continental 4x4 Wintercontact,
>>> Dimension is 255 65 16 . The usage is primary on road.
>>>
>>> Any hints about which one to choose ?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance for any help
>>>
>>> Reinhard
>>>
>>> PS : sorry about my english, but i am from austria so my native language
>>> is german
>>
>>
>
>

Reinhard Swietli wrote:
> Hi,
> i am going to buy winter tyres for my 2000 Discovery Series II, and i am
> looking for the Michelin 4x4 Alpine, Wrangler Ultra Grip or the
> Continental 4x4 Wintercontact,
> Dimension is 255 65 16 . The usage is primary on road.
>
> Any hints about which one to choose ?

I have been using BFG Commercial Traction T/A ever since they were
around. on my '98 Disco ES TDi Auto.

Just found a good pic.
http://cc.oulu.fi/~thu/LC/Tyres/CommTraction/
Also has links to a great review on AJ's Tyres site.

Were claimed as more of a 50/50 road/off road bias, but Ihave found
them to be superb both on & off road even though they have done about 95
percent of use on tarmac and many thousands of 80 mph motoway bashes.

Had them on for the last 4 years now and wouldn't go to anything else.
Don't be worried that they are narrower, it makes no noticeable
difference. Though ALB has been usefull when all 4 tyres were brand new !

HTH
Pete
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Hi,
thank you all for tipps and help. I think, i will choose pure M+S winter
tyres, but still
not sure, which manufacter.
Safe driving
Reinhard