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Ok , just explored the cause of my sudden brake fade. The Discs on the
front are past there best. Initial glimpse showed lots of pads.. then
the lip on the rim of the discs told another story.

I've had to bung a set of new pads on for now knowing that the discs
will eat them quickly.

Any one had new Discs on a Disco at a main agent? How much am I
looking at for the front pair on the '97 V8 supplied and fitted?

I fear the answer will be enough to tempt me away from the concerns of
my last Disc replacement on the Range where a snapped stud provided
days of entertainment, new drill, new tools (tap and die etc etc)
before finally giving in and gentley crawling to the nearest freindly
engineers who nearly broke his wrist drilling a new hole and fitting
an insert.

<breathes>

..... yes it was a long sentance but thats how it was!

This should really be Ping : Beamends.. how much fer all the bits
Richard? Oh and a set of locking wheel nuts (don't ask!).

Tomorrow I will venture to the rear axle set for a butchers.

Lee D
--
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- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)

www.lrproject.com
'76 101 Camper
'64 88" IIa V8 Auto
'97 Disco ES Auto LPG'd
'01 Laguna
 
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:09:12 +0100, Lee_D
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Ok , just explored the cause of my sudden brake fade. The Discs on the
>front are past there best. Initial glimpse showed lots of pads.. then
>the lip on the rim of the discs told another story.
>
>I've had to bung a set of new pads on for now knowing that the discs
>will eat them quickly.
>
>Any one had new Discs on a Disco at a main agent? How much am I
>looking at for the front pair on the '97 V8 supplied and fitted?
>
>I fear the answer will be enough to tempt me away from the concerns of
>my last Disc replacement on the Range where a snapped stud provided
>days of entertainment, new drill, new tools (tap and die etc etc)
>before finally giving in and gentley crawling to the nearest freindly
>engineers who nearly broke his wrist drilling a new hole and fitting
>an insert.
>
><breathes>
>
>.... yes it was a long sentance but thats how it was!
>
>This should really be Ping : Beamends.. how much fer all the bits
>Richard? Oh and a set of locking wheel nuts (don't ask!).
>
>Tomorrow I will venture to the rear axle set for a butchers.
>
>Lee D


Contact Mr Llama and get some drilled ones with Kevlar pads. Oh, and
the stainless hoses. Not that much more expensive than genuine and
much much much better....


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 
During stardate Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:21 +0100, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> uttered the imortal words:

>On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:09:12 +0100, Lee_D
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Ok , just explored the cause of my sudden brake fade. The Discs on the
>>front are past there best. Initial glimpse showed lots of pads.. then
>>the lip on the rim of the discs told another story.
>>
>>I've had to bung a set of new pads on for now knowing that the discs
>>will eat them quickly.
>>
>>Any one had new Discs on a Disco at a main agent? How much am I
>>looking at for the front pair on the '97 V8 supplied and fitted?
>>
>>I fear the answer will be enough to tempt me away from the concerns of
>>my last Disc replacement on the Range where a snapped stud provided
>>days of entertainment, new drill, new tools (tap and die etc etc)
>>before finally giving in and gentley crawling to the nearest freindly
>>engineers who nearly broke his wrist drilling a new hole and fitting
>>an insert.
>>
>><breathes>
>>
>>.... yes it was a long sentance but thats how it was!
>>
>>This should really be Ping : Beamends.. how much fer all the bits
>>Richard? Oh and a set of locking wheel nuts (don't ask!).
>>
>>Tomorrow I will venture to the rear axle set for a butchers.
>>
>>Lee D

>
>Contact Mr Llama and get some drilled ones with Kevlar pads. Oh, and
>the stainless hoses. Not that much more expensive than genuine and
>much much much better....



H'mmm thinking long term are the pads and calipers standard?

spose I mean the shape of the pads.... then again if they weren't then
the calipers would be different.....

Is it obvious the Beer has run dry and the wine has been cracked open?

:0$



Lee D
--
"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters."
- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)

www.lrproject.com
'76 101 Camper
'64 88" IIa V8 Auto
'97 Disco ES Auto LPG'd
'01 Laguna
 
In message <[email protected]>
Lee_D <[email protected]> wrote:

> During stardate Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:21 +0100, Tim Hobbs
> <[email protected]> uttered the imortal words:
>
> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:09:12 +0100, Lee_D
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Ok , just explored the cause of my sudden brake fade. The Discs on the
> >>front are past there best. Initial glimpse showed lots of pads.. then
> >>the lip on the rim of the discs told another story.
> >>
> >>I've had to bung a set of new pads on for now knowing that the discs
> >>will eat them quickly.
> >>
> >>Any one had new Discs on a Disco at a main agent? How much am I
> >>looking at for the front pair on the '97 V8 supplied and fitted?
> >>
> >>I fear the answer will be enough to tempt me away from the concerns of
> >>my last Disc replacement on the Range where a snapped stud provided
> >>days of entertainment, new drill, new tools (tap and die etc etc)
> >>before finally giving in and gentley crawling to the nearest freindly
> >>engineers who nearly broke his wrist drilling a new hole and fitting
> >>an insert.
> >>
> >><breathes>
> >>
> >>.... yes it was a long sentance but thats how it was!
> >>
> >>This should really be Ping : Beamends.. how much fer all the bits
> >>Richard? Oh and a set of locking wheel nuts (don't ask!).
> >>
> >>Tomorrow I will venture to the rear axle set for a butchers.
> >>
> >>Lee D

> >
> >Contact Mr Llama and get some drilled ones with Kevlar pads. Oh, and
> >the stainless hoses. Not that much more expensive than genuine and
> >much much much better....

>
>
> H'mmm thinking long term are the pads and calipers standard?
>
> spose I mean the shape of the pads.... then again if they weren't then
> the calipers would be different.....
>
> Is it obvious the Beer has run dry and the wine has been cracked open?
>
> :0$
>
>
>
> Lee D
> --


Changing discs is bread and butter stuff, it seems you were very
unlucky on the Range Rover. It normally only takes a couple of hours
to do both sides.

Assuming it has vented discs, prices are:

FTC902 Front Disc - Vented - 90/110 Front/Rear Range Rover Classic
/Discovery I Front (Price on site is out of
date) £14.22 inc VAT

FTC902AP " " " Delphi £19.74 inc VAT
FTC902G " " " Genuine £48.47 inc VAT

FTC902S Slotted And Spotted Front Disc (Pair) -
Defender/Discovery I/RRC post 85 - EBC £97.56 inc VAT


STC9190 Brake Pads - Front - Vented - Range Rover Classic From GA
/Discovery I £14.45 inc VAT

STC9190S 'Kevlar' High Performance Brake Pads - EBC - Equiv STC9190
£36.25 inc VAT

FTC4785G Inner Hub Seal - Discovery I/All Defender - £1.74 inc VAT

+ about £1.50's worth of gaskets (and tab washers)

The EBC pads go into standard calipers, and the discs are straight
replacements - so going back to standard later is not a problem.

Richard

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During stardate Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:54:27 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> uttered the imortal words:


>Changing discs is bread and butter stuff, it seems you were very
>unlucky on the Range Rover. It normally only takes a couple of hours
>to do both sides.
>
>Assuming it has vented discs, prices are:
>
>FTC902 Front Disc - Vented - 90/110 Front/Rear Range Rover Classic
> /Discovery I Front (Price on site is out of
> date) £14.22 inc VAT
>
>FTC902AP " " " Delphi £19.74 inc VAT
>FTC902G " " " Genuine £48.47 inc VAT
>
>FTC902S Slotted And Spotted Front Disc (Pair) -
> Defender/Discovery I/RRC post 85 - EBC £97.56 inc VAT
>
>
>STC9190 Brake Pads - Front - Vented - Range Rover Classic From GA
> /Discovery I £14.45 inc VAT
>
>STC9190S 'Kevlar' High Performance Brake Pads - EBC - Equiv STC9190
> £36.25 inc VAT
>
>FTC4785G Inner Hub Seal - Discovery I/All Defender - £1.74 inc VAT
>
>+ about £1.50's worth of gaskets (and tab washers)
>
>The EBC pads go into standard calipers, and the discs are straight
>replacements - so going back to standard later is not a problem.
>
>Richard


Ta Rich, whats EBC mean?

Do those pads work better throughout the range? I.e. none of this
warming the brakes up nonsence? Also do they last as long as normal
common garden pads? I can't get my head around how the channels don't
just shred the pads.

I'm very tempted to go for the upgrade as getting extreme brake fade
on a welsh mountain with 1300 kg's of Caravan giving a push is not to
be recomended.

Lee D
--
"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters."
- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)

www.lrproject.com
'76 101 Camper
'64 88" IIa V8 Auto
'97 Disco ES Auto LPG'd
'01 Laguna
 
>
>Ta Rich, whats EBC mean?
>
>Do those pads work better throughout the range? I.e. none of this
>warming the brakes up nonsence? Also do they last as long as normal
>common garden pads? I can't get my head around how the channels don't
>just shred the pads.
>
>I'm very tempted to go for the upgrade as getting extreme brake fade
>on a welsh mountain with 1300 kg's of Caravan giving a push is not to
>be recomended.
>
>Lee D


EBC is the manufacturer. Their green pads don't need any warming up
to work properly.

I did the stainless hoses at the same time, which I was told make more
difference than anything else. As always I was comparing worn-out
standard with brand-new upgraded, so hard to be objective. But
definitely a big improvement.

I doubt that they last quite as long as standard pads, but you won't
get high friction AND long life...


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 
In message <[email protected]>
Lee_D <[email protected]> wrote:

> During stardate Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:54:27 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> uttered the imortal words:
>
>
> >Changing discs is bread and butter stuff, it seems you were very
> >unlucky on the Range Rover. It normally only takes a couple of hours
> >to do both sides.
> >
> >Assuming it has vented discs, prices are:
> >
> >FTC902 Front Disc - Vented - 90/110 Front/Rear Range Rover Classic
> > /Discovery I Front (Price on site is out of
> > date) £14.22 inc VAT
> >
> >FTC902AP " " " Delphi £19.74 inc VAT
> >FTC902G " " " Genuine £48.47 inc VAT
> >
> >FTC902S Slotted And Spotted Front Disc (Pair) -
> > Defender/Discovery I/RRC post 85 - EBC £97.56 inc VAT
> >
> >
> >STC9190 Brake Pads - Front - Vented - Range Rover Classic From GA
> > /Discovery I £14.45 inc VAT
> >
> >STC9190S 'Kevlar' High Performance Brake Pads - EBC - Equiv STC9190
> > £36.25 inc VAT
> >
> >FTC4785G Inner Hub Seal - Discovery I/All Defender - £1.74 inc VAT
> >
> >+ about £1.50's worth of gaskets (and tab washers)
> >
> >The EBC pads go into standard calipers, and the discs are straight
> >replacements - so going back to standard later is not a problem.
> >
> >Richard

>
> Ta Rich, whats EBC mean?
>
> Do those pads work better throughout the range? I.e. none of this
> warming the brakes up nonsence? Also do they last as long as normal
> common garden pads? I can't get my head around how the channels don't
> just shred the pads.
>
> I'm very tempted to go for the upgrade as getting extreme brake fade
> on a welsh mountain with 1300 kg's of Caravan giving a push is not to
> be recomended.
>
> Lee D
> --


EBC is a brand, very well respected in motorsport.

Here's the blurb......

Discs
Spotted, not drilled, ro prevent disc cracking
Zinc passivated to prevent corrosion in areas outside pad
Precision machined and balanced
MADE IN UK
Max Power award winning performance
Rated "Best Fasr Road Spec Brakes"

Pads
Extra Heavy 4x4/SUV EBC 6000 Series
Heavy Duty
Aramid fibre base
Tested extensively off-road
Fade resistant to 650'C


Richard
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beamendsltd wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>
> Lee_D <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> During stardate Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:21 +0100, Tim Hobbs
>> <[email protected]> uttered the imortal words:
>>
>> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:09:12 +0100, Lee_D
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Ok , just explored the cause of my sudden brake fade. The Discs on
>> >>the front are past there best. Initial glimpse showed lots of
>> >>pads.. then the lip on the rim of the discs told another story.
>> >>
>> >>I've had to bung a set of new pads on for now knowing that the
>> >>discs will eat them quickly.
>> >>
>> >>Any one had new Discs on a Disco at a main agent? How much am I
>> >>looking at for the front pair on the '97 V8 supplied and fitted?
>> >>
>> >>I fear the answer will be enough to tempt me away from the concerns
>> >>of my last Disc replacement on the Range where a snapped stud
>> >>provided days of entertainment, new drill, new tools (tap and die
>> >>etc etc) before finally giving in and gentley crawling to the
>> >>nearest freindly engineers who nearly broke his wrist drilling a
>> >>new hole and fitting an insert.
>> >>
>> >><breathes>
>> >>
>> >>.... yes it was a long sentance but thats how it was!
>> >>
>> >>This should really be Ping : Beamends.. how much fer all the bits
>> >>Richard? Oh and a set of locking wheel nuts (don't ask!).
>> >>
>> >>Tomorrow I will venture to the rear axle set for a butchers.
>> >>
>> >>Lee D
>> >
>> >Contact Mr Llama and get some drilled ones with Kevlar pads. Oh,
>> >and
>> >the stainless hoses. Not that much more expensive than genuine and
>> >much much much better....

>>
>>
>> H'mmm thinking long term are the pads and calipers standard?
>>
>> spose I mean the shape of the pads.... then again if they weren't
>> then the calipers would be different.....
>>
>> Is it obvious the Beer has run dry and the wine has been cracked
>> open?
>>
>> :0$
>>
>>
>>
>> Lee D
>> --

>
> Changing discs is bread and butter stuff, it seems you were very
> unlucky on the Range Rover. It normally only takes a couple of hours
> to do both sides.
>
> Assuming it has vented discs, prices are:
>
> FTC902 Front Disc - Vented - 90/110 Front/Rear Range Rover Classic
> /Discovery I Front (Price on site is out of
> date) £14.22 inc VAT
>
> FTC902AP " " " Delphi £19.74 inc VAT
> FTC902G " " " Genuine £48.47 inc VAT
>
> FTC902S Slotted And Spotted Front Disc (Pair) -
> Defender/Discovery I/RRC post 85 - EBC £97.56 inc VAT
>
>
> STC9190 Brake Pads - Front - Vented - Range Rover Classic From GA
> /Discovery I £14.45 inc VAT
>
> STC9190S 'Kevlar' High Performance Brake Pads - EBC - Equiv STC9190
> £36.25 inc VAT
>
> FTC4785G Inner Hub Seal - Discovery I/All Defender - £1.74 inc VAT
>
> + about £1.50's worth of gaskets (and tab washers)
>
> The EBC pads go into standard calipers, and the discs are straight
> replacements - so going back to standard later is not a problem.
>


Any thoughts on sticking V8 discs and callipers on a TDI? Worthwhile?

P.
 
On or around Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:38:01 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Any thoughts on sticking V8 discs and callipers on a TDI? Worthwhile?
>


Same. The only advance in calipers was the change to vented disks and wiser
calipers to suit. if you do a lot of heavy braking, vented disks will give
you a bit more time before fade... but I've never faded solid ones on either
the 110 or the disco.

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as little trust as you can in tomorrow) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Odes, I.xi.8
 
In message <113000789.LtIDOUuugq@PolMobile>
"Paul S. Brown" <[email protected]> wrote:

> beamendsltd wrote:
>
> > In message <[email protected]>
> > Lee_D <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> During stardate Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:21 +0100, Tim Hobbs
> >> <[email protected]> uttered the imortal words:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:09:12 +0100, Lee_D
> >> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Ok , just explored the cause of my sudden brake fade. The Discs on
> >> >>the front are past there best. Initial glimpse showed lots of
> >> >>pads.. then the lip on the rim of the discs told another story.
> >> >>
> >> >>I've had to bung a set of new pads on for now knowing that the
> >> >>discs will eat them quickly.
> >> >>
> >> >>Any one had new Discs on a Disco at a main agent? How much am I
> >> >>looking at for the front pair on the '97 V8 supplied and fitted?
> >> >>
> >> >>I fear the answer will be enough to tempt me away from the concerns
> >> >>of my last Disc replacement on the Range where a snapped stud
> >> >>provided days of entertainment, new drill, new tools (tap and die
> >> >>etc etc) before finally giving in and gentley crawling to the
> >> >>nearest freindly engineers who nearly broke his wrist drilling a
> >> >>new hole and fitting an insert.
> >> >>
> >> >><breathes>
> >> >>
> >> >>.... yes it was a long sentance but thats how it was!
> >> >>
> >> >>This should really be Ping : Beamends.. how much fer all the bits
> >> >>Richard? Oh and a set of locking wheel nuts (don't ask!).
> >> >>
> >> >>Tomorrow I will venture to the rear axle set for a butchers.
> >> >>
> >> >>Lee D
> >> >
> >> >Contact Mr Llama and get some drilled ones with Kevlar pads. Oh,
> >> >and
> >> >the stainless hoses. Not that much more expensive than genuine and
> >> >much much much better....
> >>
> >>
> >> H'mmm thinking long term are the pads and calipers standard?
> >>
> >> spose I mean the shape of the pads.... then again if they weren't
> >> then the calipers would be different.....
> >>
> >> Is it obvious the Beer has run dry and the wine has been cracked
> >> open?
> >>
> >> :0$
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lee D
> >> --

> >
> > Changing discs is bread and butter stuff, it seems you were very
> > unlucky on the Range Rover. It normally only takes a couple of hours
> > to do both sides.
> >
> > Assuming it has vented discs, prices are:
> >
> > FTC902 Front Disc - Vented - 90/110 Front/Rear Range Rover Classic
> > /Discovery I Front (Price on site is out of
> > date) £14.22 inc VAT
> >
> > FTC902AP " " " Delphi £19.74 inc VAT
> > FTC902G " " " Genuine £48.47 inc VAT
> >
> > FTC902S Slotted And Spotted Front Disc (Pair) -
> > Defender/Discovery I/RRC post 85 - EBC £97.56 inc VAT
> >
> >
> > STC9190 Brake Pads - Front - Vented - Range Rover Classic From GA
> > /Discovery I £14.45 inc VAT
> >
> > STC9190S 'Kevlar' High Performance Brake Pads - EBC - Equiv STC9190
> > £36.25 inc VAT
> >
> > FTC4785G Inner Hub Seal - Discovery I/All Defender - £1.74 inc VAT
> >
> > + about £1.50's worth of gaskets (and tab washers)
> >
> > The EBC pads go into standard calipers, and the discs are straight
> > replacements - so going back to standard later is not a problem.
> >

>
> Any thoughts on sticking V8 discs and callipers on a TDI? Worthwhile?
>
> P.


Personally I can't see any real benefit - solid discs are perefectly
well able to cope when towing heavy loads which is when the brakes
get the most gyp. Quite why vented discs are fitted to V8's (and some
300Tdi's) I'm not realy sure, but I think it could be to compensate for
the lower engine braking available from the V8, plus a slightly higher
top speed.

Richard
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>
>Personally I can't see any real benefit - solid discs are perefectly
>well able to cope when towing heavy loads which is when the brakes
>get the most gyp. Quite why vented discs are fitted to V8's (and some
>300Tdi's) I'm not realy sure, but I think it could be to compensate for
>the lower engine braking available from the V8, plus a slightly higher
>top speed.
>
>Richard


And the V8 had solid disks as well, at least in 1995.
--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 
In message <[email protected]>
Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:

> >
> >Personally I can't see any real benefit - solid discs are perefectly
> >well able to cope when towing heavy loads which is when the brakes
> >get the most gyp. Quite why vented discs are fitted to V8's (and some
> >300Tdi's) I'm not realy sure, but I think it could be to compensate for
> >the lower engine braking available from the V8, plus a slightly higher
> >top speed.
> >
> >Richard

>
> And the V8 had solid disks as well, at least in 1995.


In *theory* the V8's should have vented discs, but........

Richard
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On or around Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:26:10 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>In message <[email protected]>
> Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >
>> >Personally I can't see any real benefit - solid discs are perefectly
>> >well able to cope when towing heavy loads which is when the brakes
>> >get the most gyp. Quite why vented discs are fitted to V8's (and some
>> >300Tdi's) I'm not realy sure, but I think it could be to compensate for
>> >the lower engine braking available from the V8, plus a slightly higher
>> >top speed.
>> >
>> >Richard

>>
>> And the V8 had solid disks as well, at least in 1995.

>
>In *theory* the V8's should have vented discs, but........


My H-plater was solid discs.
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"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
 
People Hi,

Here in Greece where the climate is a lot hotter than in the UK there is a
noticeable difference related to the effectiveness of vented disc brakes
when compared to standard ones.
Especially if the vehicle is loaded, the weather is hot (how about summer
temperatures of around 38 to 40 degrees Celsius in the shade on average?)
and the road is downhill you can really appreciate having vented disks
instead of standard ones.

Actually one of the common brake system upgrades for Greek LR owners is to
fit vented disks. Something that is easily done by replacing the standard
disks when the have to be changed. There is no need to change the calipers
as you can fit a conversion kit consisting of a pair of spacers, set of
longer caliper connecting bolts and seals.

Drilled and vented disks are even better because even though they tend to be
a bit noisy they also have a much better feel and more immediate grip when
the road is wet (yes it occasionaly rains here in Greece, even in summer and
much more frequently during Autumn)

Take care
Pantelis


"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:26:10 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >In message <[email protected]>
> > Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> >Personally I can't see any real benefit - solid discs are perefectly
> >> >well able to cope when towing heavy loads which is when the brakes
> >> >get the most gyp. Quite why vented discs are fitted to V8's (and some
> >> >300Tdi's) I'm not realy sure, but I think it could be to compensate

for
> >> >the lower engine braking available from the V8, plus a slightly higher
> >> >top speed.
> >> >
> >> >Richard
> >>
> >> And the V8 had solid disks as well, at least in 1995.

> >
> >In *theory* the V8's should have vented discs, but........

>
> My H-plater was solid discs.
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
> Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.



 
On or around Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:56:37 +0300, "Pantelis Giamarellos"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>(how about summer
>temperatures of around 38 to 40 degrees Celsius in the shade on average?)


I reckon I could live with that. Any nice olive groves up for sale? I
could no doubt drive greek kids to school, assuming they do that sort of
thing in Greece, and still make trikes, and grow olives in me spare time.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Ask yourself whether you are happy, and you cease to be so."
John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873)
 
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