Disco 300 tdi es auto running problems

A question for a mate really, but he has a 300 tdi es auto Discovery.
When driving it under normal conditions it drives ok, if anything it is a little under powered. I think thats down to a Turbo problem?????? there seems to be a blowing sound when the Turbo spins up, a bit like its leaking if that doesn't sound too silly...

When approaching a hill it drives fine, going up hills is a little slow, but when reaching the top and levelling off it seems to die. All the power seems to dissapear and there's a plume of black smoke.
Anybody had any similar experiences????

"accywingy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> A question for a mate really, but he has a 300 tdi es auto Discovery.
> When driving it under normal conditions it drives ok, if anything it
> is a little under powered. I think thats down to a Turbo problem??????
> there seems to be a blowing sound when the Turbo spins up, a bit like
> its leaking if that doesn't sound too silly...
>
> When approaching a hill it drives fine, going up hills is a little
> slow, but when reaching the top and levelling off it seems to die. All
> the power seems to dissapear and there's a plume of black smoke.
> Anybody had any similar experiences????
>
>
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The blowing sound is probably a ruptured hose after the turbo, this will
cause your lack of power but probably not your black smoke which sounds like
it's getting too much fuel. You don't say if it's got EDS or not, if it has
your ECU my be faulty. First job though is find and cure that leak, it may
just ssolve all your problems.

Peter

300TDi ES Auto with EDC

It sounds like a turbo related hose problem.

It has been known for large air leaks to also develop black smoke when
accelerating.

I would suggest you give a thorough checkup on the condition of the hoses
from the turbocharger to the intercooler and from the intercooler to the
engine. If those appear OK by visual inspection then remove them check them
from the inside and if they still appear ok put them back on the car taking
extra care so that they sit properly and the fasteners are tightened as much
as possible.

If you still have air leaking from the system then either recheck the hoses
or remove the intercooler and check for raptures/cracks/holes on it also.

hope this helps
Pantelis

"Peter Seddon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "accywingy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > A question for a mate really, but he has a 300 tdi es auto Discovery.
> > When driving it under normal conditions it drives ok, if anything it
> > is a little under powered. I think thats down to a Turbo problem??????
> > there seems to be a blowing sound when the Turbo spins up, a bit like
> > its leaking if that doesn't sound too silly...
> >
> > When approaching a hill it drives fine, going up hills is a little
> > slow, but when reaching the top and levelling off it seems to die. All
> > the power seems to dissapear and there's a plume of black smoke.
> > Anybody had any similar experiences????
> >
> >
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> The blowing sound is probably a ruptured hose after the turbo, this will
> cause your lack of power but probably not your black smoke which sounds
like
> it's getting too much fuel. You don't say if it's got EDS or not, if it
has
> your ECU my be faulty. First job though is find and cure that leak, it may
> just ssolve all your problems.
>
> Peter
>
> 300TDi ES Auto with EDC
>
>

Peter Seddon was greatly moved, and spake thus, saying:

> The blowing sound is probably a ruptured hose after the turbo, this
> will cause your lack of power but probably not your black smoke which
> sounds like it's getting too much fuel.

A ruptured hose would explain the over-fuelling/black smoke too. Less air,
same fuelling, too much fuel for the available air, black smoke.

> You don't say if it's got EDS
> or not, if it has your ECU my be faulty.

Fix the hose first before you worry about that!

> First job though is find and
> cure that leak, it may just ssolve all your problems.

Agreed.

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Rich

Series 2a
RR 4.6
V8 trialler
dog, wife, kids, whatever

I had this problem with my 93 Tdi and I just rivetted a plate across. That
was about 7 years ago. Welding weakens the area.
Frank in Aussieland
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"accywingy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> A question for a mate really, but he has a 300 tdi es auto Discovery.
> When driving it under normal conditions it drives ok, if anything it
> is a little under powered. I think thats down to a Turbo problem??????
> there seems to be a blowing sound when the Turbo spins up, a bit like
> its leaking if that doesn't sound too silly...
>
> When approaching a hill it drives fine, going up hills is a little
> slow, but when reaching the top and levelling off it seems to die. All
> the power seems to dissapear and there's a plume of black smoke.
> Anybody had any similar experiences????
>
>
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> accywingy
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This reply should've been in another group (seat required), sorry, somehow
it got in there.
Frank
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"thesnowbaron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I had this problem with my 93 Tdi and I just rivetted a plate across. That
>was about 7 years ago. Welding weakens the area.
> Frank in Aussieland
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> "accywingy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> A question for a mate really, but he has a 300 tdi es auto Discovery.
>> When driving it under normal conditions it drives ok, if anything it
>> is a little under powered. I think thats down to a Turbo problem??????
>> there seems to be a blowing sound when the Turbo spins up, a bit like
>> its leaking if that doesn't sound too silly...
>>
>> When approaching a hill it drives fine, going up hills is a little
>> slow, but when reaching the top and levelling off it seems to die. All
>> the power seems to dissapear and there's a plume of black smoke.
>> Anybody had any similar experiences????
>>
>>
>> --
>> accywingy
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>> accywingy's Profile: http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/member.php?userid=2
>> View this thread: http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/showthread.php?t=18847
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