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Austin Shackles
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Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
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Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
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Dougal
Guest
> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
like the plague.
Pity that the editing didn't really show the vehicle doing its stuff.
David
Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
like the plague.
Pity that the editing didn't really show the vehicle doing its stuff.
David
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Paul S. Brown
Guest
Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
>
> Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
> could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
>
> As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
> though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
> competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
> like the plague.
>
In that part of the world it's very difficult to avoid the wet bits - it's
peat bog country.
And he admitted that he's the worlds worst offroad driver - and who am I to
disagree.
They should have let Hammond test the D3 - he at least seems to have a clue.
P.
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If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
>> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
>
> Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
> could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
>
> As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
> though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
> competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
> like the plague.
>
In that part of the world it's very difficult to avoid the wet bits - it's
peat bog country.
And he admitted that he's the worlds worst offroad driver - and who am I to
disagree.
They should have let Hammond test the D3 - he at least seems to have a clue.
P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
S
Si K
Guest
"Paul S. Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain.
Impressive.
> >
> > Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
> > could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
> >
> > As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
> > though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
> > competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
> > like the plague.
> >
>
> In that part of the world it's very difficult to avoid the wet bits - it's
> peat bog country.
>
> And he admitted that he's the worlds worst offroad driver - and who am I
to
> disagree.
>
> They should have let Hammond test the D3 - he at least seems to have a
clue.
>
> P.
At least Hammond is a well documented gren oval lover!
To be honest, looking at that piece tonight, I want to see the film of the
descent - afterall - nose pointing to the clear blue isnt scary, falling
onto your seatbelt cos you're on the way down at a very sharp angle - now
that would be well worth seeing with Clarkson at the helm
Si
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Alex
Guest
On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:17:59 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
>>
>> Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
>> could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
>>
>> As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
>> though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
>> competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
>> like the plague.
>>
>
>In that part of the world it's very difficult to avoid the wet bits - it's
>peat bog country.
>
>And he admitted that he's the worlds worst offroad driver - and who am I to
>disagree.
>
>They should have let Hammond test the D3 - he at least seems to have a clue.
>
And he's a Landrover Enthusiast as well.
Yeah he could have taken it round the same course he drove the Bowler
round in the last series. At the same speed. I'd like to see the D3
after that.....
Let's face it, the D3 is more likely to be driven by Clarkson types
(middle aged, money, kids, chelsea flat, furthest offroad is the
verge) than an enthusiast, so Clarkson's probably better placed to
assess it
Alex
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
>>
>> Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
>> could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
>>
>> As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
>> though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
>> competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
>> like the plague.
>>
>
>In that part of the world it's very difficult to avoid the wet bits - it's
>peat bog country.
>
>And he admitted that he's the worlds worst offroad driver - and who am I to
>disagree.
>
>They should have let Hammond test the D3 - he at least seems to have a clue.
>
And he's a Landrover Enthusiast as well.
Yeah he could have taken it round the same course he drove the Bowler
round in the last series. At the same speed. I'd like to see the D3
after that.....
Let's face it, the D3 is more likely to be driven by Clarkson types
(middle aged, money, kids, chelsea flat, furthest offroad is the
verge) than an enthusiast, so Clarkson's probably better placed to
assess it
Alex
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Peter Seddon
Guest
"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:17:59 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain.
>>>> Impressive.
>>>
>>> Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
>>> could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
>>>
>>> As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
>>> though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
>>> competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
>>> like the plague.
>>>
>>
>>In that part of the world it's very difficult to avoid the wet bits - it's
>>peat bog country.
>>
>>And he admitted that he's the worlds worst offroad driver - and who am I
>>to
>>disagree.
>>
>>They should have let Hammond test the D3 - he at least seems to have a
>>clue.
>>
> And he's a Landrover Enthusiast as well.
>
> Yeah he could have taken it round the same course he drove the Bowler
> round in the last series. At the same speed. I'd like to see the D3
> after that.....
>
> Let's face it, the D3 is more likely to be driven by Clarkson types
> (middle aged, money, kids, chelsea flat, furthest offroad is the
> verge) than an enthusiast, so Clarkson's probably better placed to
> assess it
>
> Alex
So if a plonker like him can do it !!!!!!!
Peter.
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Someone
Guest
I read Ray Mears write up of the LR3 a few weeks back (The Times was it?).
Id personally take his word for it. He rated it against his 90 and said it
compared. Thats all I needed to know!
Toss up now is. 2nd Hand TD6 Rangie, LR3, or maybe price pending, the baby
rangie?
The LR3 seams to have it on off road ability (and the fact its 3-4 years
newer in design), but will it have the Qdos when ever other bugger is
driving on in 6 months time?
Wheres that bloody Lottery ticket?
Tim
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
Id personally take his word for it. He rated it against his 90 and said it
compared. Thats all I needed to know!
Toss up now is. 2nd Hand TD6 Rangie, LR3, or maybe price pending, the baby
rangie?
The LR3 seams to have it on off road ability (and the fact its 3-4 years
newer in design), but will it have the Qdos when ever other bugger is
driving on in 6 months time?
Wheres that bloody Lottery ticket?
Tim
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
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Paul S. Brown
Guest
Someone wrote:
> I read Ray Mears write up of the LR3 a few weeks back (The Times was it?).
> Id personally take his word for it. He rated it against his 90 and said it
> compared. Thats all I needed to know!
>
> Toss up now is. 2nd Hand TD6 Rangie, LR3, or maybe price pending, the baby
> rangie?
>
> The LR3 seams to have it on off road ability (and the fact its 3-4 years
> newer in design), but will it have the Qdos when ever other bugger is
> driving on in 6 months time?
>
Well, for my money I'd buy the 2nd hand Rangie. It's more likely to have had
any nasty faults found already.
As lovely as the LR3 may be, it's still a brand new Land Rover and I've
sworn off them since causing every recall in the first 3 years of the TD5
Discos life. Same goes for whatever the Range Stormer turns into.
P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
> I read Ray Mears write up of the LR3 a few weeks back (The Times was it?).
> Id personally take his word for it. He rated it against his 90 and said it
> compared. Thats all I needed to know!
>
> Toss up now is. 2nd Hand TD6 Rangie, LR3, or maybe price pending, the baby
> rangie?
>
> The LR3 seams to have it on off road ability (and the fact its 3-4 years
> newer in design), but will it have the Qdos when ever other bugger is
> driving on in 6 months time?
>
Well, for my money I'd buy the 2nd hand Rangie. It's more likely to have had
any nasty faults found already.
As lovely as the LR3 may be, it's still a brand new Land Rover and I've
sworn off them since causing every recall in the first 3 years of the TD5
Discos life. Same goes for whatever the Range Stormer turns into.
P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
M
Me
Guest
Impressive .. but it still remains an ugly car.
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
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Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:13:03 +0000, Dougal
<DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
>though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
>competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
>like the plague.
to be fair, he did say at one point that he's crap at driving off-road.
<DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's almost as
>though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits that any
>competent person intending to succeed in this task would have avoided
>like the plague.
to be fair, he did say at one point that he's crap at driving off-road.
G
GbH
Guest
In news:[email protected],
Alex <[email protected]> blithered:
> On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:17:59 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain.
>>>> Impressive.
>>>
>>> Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
>>> could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
>>>
>>> As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's
>>> almost as though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits
>>> that any competent person intending to succeed in this task would
>>> have avoided like the plague.
>>>
>>
>> In that part of the world it's very difficult to avoid the wet bits
>> - it's peat bog country.
>>
>> And he admitted that he's the worlds worst offroad driver - and who
>> am I to disagree.
>>
>> They should have let Hammond test the D3 - he at least seems to have
>> a clue.
>>
> And he's a Landrover Enthusiast as well.
>
> Yeah he could have taken it round the same course he drove the Bowler
> round in the last series. At the same speed. I'd like to see the D3
> after that.....
>
> Let's face it, the D3 is more likely to be driven by Clarkson types
> (middle aged, money, kids, chelsea flat, furthest offroad is the
> verge) than an enthusiast, so Clarkson's probably better placed to
> assess it
Sad but True!!
--
UR SHGb02+14 &ICMFP
If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!
Alex <[email protected]> blithered:
> On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:17:59 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain.
>>>> Impressive.
>>>
>>> Frankly I'm disappointed. Most of Land Rovers coil-sprung offerings
>>> could have done that - we'll excuse the Freelander!
>>>
>>> As for his off-road skills, I'm not sure that he has any. It's
>>> almost as though he deliberately got sucked towards the wet bits
>>> that any competent person intending to succeed in this task would
>>> have avoided like the plague.
>>>
>>
>> In that part of the world it's very difficult to avoid the wet bits
>> - it's peat bog country.
>>
>> And he admitted that he's the worlds worst offroad driver - and who
>> am I to disagree.
>>
>> They should have let Hammond test the D3 - he at least seems to have
>> a clue.
>>
> And he's a Landrover Enthusiast as well.
>
> Yeah he could have taken it round the same course he drove the Bowler
> round in the last series. At the same speed. I'd like to see the D3
> after that.....
>
> Let's face it, the D3 is more likely to be driven by Clarkson types
> (middle aged, money, kids, chelsea flat, furthest offroad is the
> verge) than an enthusiast, so Clarkson's probably better placed to
> assess it
Sad but True!!
--
UR SHGb02+14 &ICMFP
If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!
M
Mother
Guest
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 07:37:20 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:
>to be fair, he did say at one point that he's crap at driving off-road.
Clarkson: "Have I damaged the trim"
Recovery bod: "Yes, you caught it on the heather"
Same build quality as any other landie, then.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>to be fair, he did say at one point that he's crap at driving off-road.
Clarkson: "Have I damaged the trim"
Recovery bod: "Yes, you caught it on the heather"
Same build quality as any other landie, then.
T
Torak
Guest
Alex wrote:
>
> Let's face it, the D3 is more likely to be driven by Clarkson types
> (middle aged, money, kids, chelsea flat, furthest offroad is the
> verge) than an enthusiast, so Clarkson's probably better placed to
> assess it
Agreed on all but one point:
Clarkson doesn't live in a Chelsea flat. His house has been shown on a
few programmes, notably on the episode of Speed (or whatever it was
called) where he had that Lightning parked on his front lawn as a gate
guard....
>
> Let's face it, the D3 is more likely to be driven by Clarkson types
> (middle aged, money, kids, chelsea flat, furthest offroad is the
> verge) than an enthusiast, so Clarkson's probably better placed to
> assess it
Agreed on all but one point:
Clarkson doesn't live in a Chelsea flat. His house has been shown on a
few programmes, notably on the episode of Speed (or whatever it was
called) where he had that Lightning parked on his front lawn as a gate
guard....
A
Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:14:55 +0000, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net>
enlightened us thusly:
>On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 07:37:20 +0000, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>to be fair, he did say at one point that he's crap at driving off-road.
>
>Clarkson: "Have I damaged the trim"
>
>Recovery bod: "Yes, you caught it on the heather"
>
>Same build quality as any other landie, then.
<snigger>
'course, trim is there to be removed, innit. it protects the bodywork by
coming into contact first.
enlightened us thusly:
>On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 07:37:20 +0000, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>to be fair, he did say at one point that he's crap at driving off-road.
>
>Clarkson: "Have I damaged the trim"
>
>Recovery bod: "Yes, you caught it on the heather"
>
>Same build quality as any other landie, then.
<snigger>
'course, trim is there to be removed, innit. it protects the bodywork by
coming into contact first.
D
Dom J
Guest
> Clarkson doesn't live in a Chelsea flat. His house has been shown on a
> few programmes, notably on the episode of Speed (or whatever it was
> called) where he had that Lightning parked on his front lawn as a gate
> guard....
He lives somewhere in the Cotswolds, Chipping something IIRC. Ah yes the
Lightning.....I seem to remember Mrs Clarkson being less than happy about
the 3 bloody big trenches the wheels made in her nice looking lawn!!.
Dom J
> few programmes, notably on the episode of Speed (or whatever it was
> called) where he had that Lightning parked on his front lawn as a gate
> guard....
He lives somewhere in the Cotswolds, Chipping something IIRC. Ah yes the
Lightning.....I seem to remember Mrs Clarkson being less than happy about
the 3 bloody big trenches the wheels made in her nice looking lawn!!.
Dom J
M
Mother
Guest
On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:00:44 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
Best quote came from Charlotte...
"It needs a computer to put it into difflock and low ratio? Could be
handy for someone stuck on a particularly damp soft verge outside
Sainsburys".
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain. Impressive.
Best quote came from Charlotte...
"It needs a computer to put it into difflock and low ratio? Could be
handy for someone stuck on a particularly damp soft verge outside
Sainsburys".
M
mattyjenks
Guest
well i agree with everyone here.....
but i must admit. ive test driven the disco 3.... its an awsome
drive........ and hadles well of road as well... but the idot proof
thingy. how annoying!!! i want low range 2nd gear and it f**cking
insiting on highrange 1st..... at least with the good old defender
thats what you get!!!
and how ugly is it!!! i want discovery not the results of mummy disco
and daddy rangie!
maybe most of that is just me but all the guys [and girls, yes girls
interested in landrovers - perfect combination ;o) ] seems to be that
waya as well
but i must admit. ive test driven the disco 3.... its an awsome
drive........ and hadles well of road as well... but the idot proof
thingy. how annoying!!! i want low range 2nd gear and it f**cking
insiting on highrange 1st..... at least with the good old defender
thats what you get!!!
and how ugly is it!!! i want discovery not the results of mummy disco
and daddy rangie!
maybe most of that is just me but all the guys [and girls, yes girls
interested in landrovers - perfect combination ;o) ] seems to be that
waya as well
R
Richard Brookman
Guest
So Mother" <"@ {m} @ was, like
> On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:00:44 +0000, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain.
>> Impressive.
>
> Best quote came from Charlotte...
>
> "It needs a computer to put it into difflock and low ratio? Could be
> handy for someone stuck on a particularly damp soft verge outside
> Sainsburys".
Saw one on the road on Sunday. It wasn't until it had gone past that I
realised what it was - I just thought what a fecking ugly van. Strangely,
it looked better on telly.
I liked the bit where he first turned off the tarmac onto that slope. See
his n/s rear wheel hop in the air? If that was Clarkson driving (debatable)
it must have been a bit of a brown trouser moment for him.
--
Rich
Nullum Gratuitum Prandium
> On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:00:44 +0000, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just been watching Clarkson drive it up a scottish mountain.
>> Impressive.
>
> Best quote came from Charlotte...
>
> "It needs a computer to put it into difflock and low ratio? Could be
> handy for someone stuck on a particularly damp soft verge outside
> Sainsburys".
Saw one on the road on Sunday. It wasn't until it had gone past that I
realised what it was - I just thought what a fecking ugly van. Strangely,
it looked better on telly.
I liked the bit where he first turned off the tarmac onto that slope. See
his n/s rear wheel hop in the air? If that was Clarkson driving (debatable)
it must have been a bit of a brown trouser moment for him.
--
Rich
Nullum Gratuitum Prandium
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