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TonyB
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Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage to
the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
Ta,
TonyB
the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
Ta,
TonyB
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John Moppett
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TonyB wrote:
> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage to
> the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>
> Ta,
> TonyB
>
>
Didn't make any difference when I did it on my 110!!
> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage to
> the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>
> Ta,
> TonyB
>
>
Didn't make any difference when I did it on my 110!!
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Hirsty's
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"John Moppett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> TonyB wrote:
> > Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage
to
> > the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
> >
> > Ta,
> > TonyB
> >
> >
> Didn't make any difference when I did it on my 110!!
What year ? Mine has some kind of resistor in the switch to handle the EU
regs on dimming when ignition is switched off and new switch is expensive ?
A
Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage to
>the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
why?
disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage bulbs. My
night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for legal speeds
on the road.
If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of spots is
better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long beam and light
the road up a long way ahead.
high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch failure
among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the problems caused
by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it more difficult to see
unlit objects.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage to
>the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
why?
disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage bulbs. My
night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for legal speeds
on the road.
If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of spots is
better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long beam and light
the road up a long way ahead.
high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch failure
among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the problems caused
by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it more difficult to see
unlit objects.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
P
Paul - xxx
Guest
Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage
>> to the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>
> why?
>
> disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage bulbs.
> My night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for legal
> speeds on the road.
>
> If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
> suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
> you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of spots
> is better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long beam and
> light the road up a long way ahead.
>
> high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch failure
> among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the problems
> caused by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it more
> difficult to see unlit objects.
I'd agree with all that, and also suggest that if you're trying to uprate
the lights for off-roading, then additional lights off-set from the 'normal'
headlight positions, especially mounted high despite looking daft, will help
to highlight dips and troughs a lot more than standard. or higher wattage,
lighting.
--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!
> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage
>> to the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>
> why?
>
> disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage bulbs.
> My night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for legal
> speeds on the road.
>
> If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
> suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
> you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of spots
> is better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long beam and
> light the road up a long way ahead.
>
> high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch failure
> among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the problems
> caused by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it more
> difficult to see unlit objects.
I'd agree with all that, and also suggest that if you're trying to uprate
the lights for off-roading, then additional lights off-set from the 'normal'
headlight positions, especially mounted high despite looking daft, will help
to highlight dips and troughs a lot more than standard. or higher wattage,
lighting.
--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!
S
Srtgray
Guest
Paul - xxx wrote:
> Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
>
>> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage
>>> to the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>>
>>
>> why?
>>
>> disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage bulbs.
>> My night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for legal
>> speeds on the road.
>>
>> If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
>> suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
>> you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of spots
>> is better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long beam and
>> light the road up a long way ahead.
>>
>> high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch failure
>> among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the problems
>> caused by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it more
>> difficult to see unlit objects.
>
>
> I'd agree with all that, and also suggest that if you're trying to
> uprate the lights for off-roading, then additional lights off-set from
> the 'normal' headlight positions, especially mounted high despite
> looking daft, will help to highlight dips and troughs a lot more than
> standard. or higher wattage, lighting.
>
Although, since green lanes are actually roads (hence are covered by
normal insurance), high mounted lights are illegal when lighted - not
that any policeman is likely to catch and/or prosecute...
Stuart
> Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
>
>> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage
>>> to the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>>
>>
>> why?
>>
>> disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage bulbs.
>> My night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for legal
>> speeds on the road.
>>
>> If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
>> suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
>> you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of spots
>> is better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long beam and
>> light the road up a long way ahead.
>>
>> high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch failure
>> among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the problems
>> caused by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it more
>> difficult to see unlit objects.
>
>
> I'd agree with all that, and also suggest that if you're trying to
> uprate the lights for off-roading, then additional lights off-set from
> the 'normal' headlight positions, especially mounted high despite
> looking daft, will help to highlight dips and troughs a lot more than
> standard. or higher wattage, lighting.
>
Although, since green lanes are actually roads (hence are covered by
normal insurance), high mounted lights are illegal when lighted - not
that any policeman is likely to catch and/or prosecute...
Stuart
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Paul - xxx
Guest
Srtgray came up with the following;:
> Paul - xxx wrote:
>> Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
>>
>>> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage
>>>> to the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>>>
>>>
>>> why?
>>>
>>> disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage bulbs.
>>> My night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for legal
>>> speeds on the road.
>>>
>>> If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
>>> suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
>>> you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of
>>> spots is better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long
>>> beam and light the road up a long way ahead.
>>>
>>> high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch
>>> failure among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the
>>> problems caused by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it
>>> more difficult to see unlit objects.
>>
>>
>> I'd agree with all that, and also suggest that if you're trying to
>> uprate the lights for off-roading, then additional lights off-set from
>> the 'normal' headlight positions, especially mounted high despite
>> looking daft, will help to highlight dips and troughs a lot more than
>> standard. or higher wattage, lighting.
>>
> Although, since green lanes are actually roads (hence are covered by
> normal insurance), high mounted lights are illegal when lighted - not
> that any policeman is likely to catch and/or prosecute...
Not when they are used in a proper manner, ie only wired so they can be
turned on when high beam is on. When high beam is on, almost any amount of
auxiliary lighting can prefectly legally be turned on.
--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!
> Paul - xxx wrote:
>> Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
>>
>>> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher wattage
>>>> to the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>>>
>>>
>>> why?
>>>
>>> disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage bulbs.
>>> My night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for legal
>>> speeds on the road.
>>>
>>> If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
>>> suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
>>> you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of
>>> spots is better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long
>>> beam and light the road up a long way ahead.
>>>
>>> high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch
>>> failure among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the
>>> problems caused by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it
>>> more difficult to see unlit objects.
>>
>>
>> I'd agree with all that, and also suggest that if you're trying to
>> uprate the lights for off-roading, then additional lights off-set from
>> the 'normal' headlight positions, especially mounted high despite
>> looking daft, will help to highlight dips and troughs a lot more than
>> standard. or higher wattage, lighting.
>>
> Although, since green lanes are actually roads (hence are covered by
> normal insurance), high mounted lights are illegal when lighted - not
> that any policeman is likely to catch and/or prosecute...
Not when they are used in a proper manner, ie only wired so they can be
turned on when high beam is on. When high beam is on, almost any amount of
auxiliary lighting can prefectly legally be turned on.
--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!
S
Srtgray
Guest
Paul - xxx wrote:
> Srtgray came up with the following;:
>
>> Paul - xxx wrote:
>>
>>> Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
>>>
>>>> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
>>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>>
>>>>> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher
>>>>> wattage
>>>>> to the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> why?
>>>>
>>>> disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage
>>>> bulbs.
>>>> My night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for
>>>> legal
>>>> speeds on the road.
>>>>
>>>> If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
>>>> suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
>>>> you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of
>>>> spots is better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long
>>>> beam and light the road up a long way ahead.
>>>>
>>>> high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch
>>>> failure among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the
>>>> problems caused by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it
>>>> more difficult to see unlit objects.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd agree with all that, and also suggest that if you're trying to
>>> uprate the lights for off-roading, then additional lights off-set from
>>> the 'normal' headlight positions, especially mounted high despite
>>> looking daft, will help to highlight dips and troughs a lot more than
>>> standard. or higher wattage, lighting.
>>>
>> Although, since green lanes are actually roads (hence are covered by
>> normal insurance), high mounted lights are illegal when lighted - not
>> that any policeman is likely to catch and/or prosecute...
>
>
> Not when they are used in a proper manner, ie only wired so they can be
> turned on when high beam is on. When high beam is on, almost any amount
> of auxiliary lighting can prefectly legally be turned on.
>
Even up high? Well, you learn something new every day.
Stuart
> Srtgray came up with the following;:
>
>> Paul - xxx wrote:
>>
>>> Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
>>>
>>>> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
>>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>>
>>>>> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher
>>>>> wattage
>>>>> to the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> why?
>>>>
>>>> disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage
>>>> bulbs.
>>>> My night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for
>>>> legal
>>>> speeds on the road.
>>>>
>>>> If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
>>>> suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
>>>> you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of
>>>> spots is better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long
>>>> beam and light the road up a long way ahead.
>>>>
>>>> high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch
>>>> failure among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the
>>>> problems caused by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it
>>>> more difficult to see unlit objects.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd agree with all that, and also suggest that if you're trying to
>>> uprate the lights for off-roading, then additional lights off-set from
>>> the 'normal' headlight positions, especially mounted high despite
>>> looking daft, will help to highlight dips and troughs a lot more than
>>> standard. or higher wattage, lighting.
>>>
>> Although, since green lanes are actually roads (hence are covered by
>> normal insurance), high mounted lights are illegal when lighted - not
>> that any policeman is likely to catch and/or prosecute...
>
>
> Not when they are used in a proper manner, ie only wired so they can be
> turned on when high beam is on. When high beam is on, almost any amount
> of auxiliary lighting can prefectly legally be turned on.
>
Even up high? Well, you learn something new every day.
Stuart
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Richard
Guest
"Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Srtgray came up with the following;:
>> Paul - xxx wrote:
>>> Austin Shackles came up with the following;:
>>>
>>>> On or around Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:40:51 +0100, "TonyB"
>>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>>
>>>>> Will it b****r up the dim dip if I fit off road bulbs of higher
>>>>> wattage
>>>>> to the 300 Tdi Disco, 1996 model?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> why?
>>>>
>>>> disco lights on the 300 TDi are pretty good with standard-wattage
>>>> bulbs.
>>>> My night vision is not all that good, but I find them adequate for
>>>> legal
>>>> speeds on the road.
>>>>
>>>> If you're bothered about off-road illumination, fitting more lamps with
>>>> suitable relays would be a better bet, and not illegal; same applies if
>>>> you're bothered about high-speed driving at night: a decent pair of
>>>> spots is better than high-wattage headlamps, 'cos they throw a long
>>>> beam and light the road up a long way ahead.
>>>>
>>>> high wattage bulbs will overload the circuit and can cause switch
>>>> failure among other problems, and high-wattage dip beams add to the
>>>> problems caused by modern dipped lights being too bright and making it
>>>> more difficult to see unlit objects.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd agree with all that, and also suggest that if you're trying to
>>> uprate the lights for off-roading, then additional lights off-set from
>>> the 'normal' headlight positions, especially mounted high despite
>>> looking daft, will help to highlight dips and troughs a lot more than
>>> standard. or higher wattage, lighting.
>>>
>> Although, since green lanes are actually roads (hence are covered by
>> normal insurance), high mounted lights are illegal when lighted - not
>> that any policeman is likely to catch and/or prosecute...
>
> Not when they are used in a proper manner, ie only wired so they can be
> turned on when high beam is on. When high beam is on, almost any amount
> of auxiliary lighting can prefectly legally be turned on.
>
> --
> Paul ...
> (8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!
>
As far as I can remember high according to construction and use regulations
high mounted 'driving' lamps must be on a separate switch and NOT connected
to the main beam circuit (although mine are! oops).
Richard
>
>
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TonyB
Guest
Thanks all,
it's not that I'm disappointed with the 300's lamps, they are indeed very
good and much much better than the 200, but I'm reluctant to let the 200 go
with £16 worth of bulbs in it if I can use them on the new vehicle.
As it appears that I might cause lots of expensive problems by changing
them, I think I'll bite the bullet and let them go. It just isn't worth the
hassle of broken switches etc etc.
Thanks again for the useful info.
TonyB
it's not that I'm disappointed with the 300's lamps, they are indeed very
good and much much better than the 200, but I'm reluctant to let the 200 go
with £16 worth of bulbs in it if I can use them on the new vehicle.
As it appears that I might cause lots of expensive problems by changing
them, I think I'll bite the bullet and let them go. It just isn't worth the
hassle of broken switches etc etc.
Thanks again for the useful info.
TonyB
A
Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:40:05 +0200, Srtgray
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>Although, since green lanes are actually roads (hence are covered by
>normal insurance), high mounted lights are illegal when lighted - not
>that any policeman is likely to catch and/or prosecute...
you're allowed "main" lights more or less anywhere except that you shouldn't
show a white light to the rear except when reversing. Dipped lights are
required to be between 500 and 1200mm from the ground, IIRC.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to
a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
from Mein Kampf, Ch 10
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>Although, since green lanes are actually roads (hence are covered by
>normal insurance), high mounted lights are illegal when lighted - not
>that any policeman is likely to catch and/or prosecute...
you're allowed "main" lights more or less anywhere except that you shouldn't
show a white light to the rear except when reversing. Dipped lights are
required to be between 500 and 1200mm from the ground, IIRC.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to
a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
from Mein Kampf, Ch 10
A
Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:04:19 +0100, "TonyB"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Thanks all,
>it's not that I'm disappointed with the 300's lamps, they are indeed very
>good and much much better than the 200, but I'm reluctant to let the 200 go
>with £16 worth of bulbs in it if I can use them on the new vehicle.
>
>As it appears that I might cause lots of expensive problems by changing
>them, I think I'll bite the bullet and let them go. It just isn't worth the
>hassle of broken switches etc etc.
>
a better use of yer money is the really good standard wattage bulbs like the
philips vision plus or osram silver star. well impressive.
The other thing to check is that all the connections are clean and tight.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Brevis esse laboro, Obscurus fio" (it is when I struggle to be
brief that I become obscure) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Ars Poetica, 25
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Thanks all,
>it's not that I'm disappointed with the 300's lamps, they are indeed very
>good and much much better than the 200, but I'm reluctant to let the 200 go
>with £16 worth of bulbs in it if I can use them on the new vehicle.
>
>As it appears that I might cause lots of expensive problems by changing
>them, I think I'll bite the bullet and let them go. It just isn't worth the
>hassle of broken switches etc etc.
>
a better use of yer money is the really good standard wattage bulbs like the
philips vision plus or osram silver star. well impressive.
The other thing to check is that all the connections are clean and tight.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Brevis esse laboro, Obscurus fio" (it is when I struggle to be
brief that I become obscure) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Ars Poetica, 25
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