Damper mount on axle casing - repair or replace?

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John S

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• Nov 18, 2004

• #1

The mount for my rear shock has sheared off, leaving a sharp rusty
stump where there should be a mount on the axle casing. Should I get a
new mount welded on, or would it be easier to replace the casing?

S111 Staion wagon.

 

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JD

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• Nov 18, 2004

• #2

John S wrote:

> The mount for my rear shock has sheared off, leaving a sharp rusty
> stump where there should be a mount on the axle casing. Should I get a
> new mount welded on, or would it be easier to replace the casing?
>
> S111 Staion wagon.

Getting a new one welded on will be easier - but how much else of the axle
housing is rusted away? Replacing the axle housing is likely to be more
satisfactory, but is a lot more work, and if it is a LWB you will have to
buy the whole axle assembly (changing the diff over on a salisbury is not
feasible).

If you are paying someone to do it, you will probably find replacing the
whole axle assembly will be cheaper anyway.
JD

 

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beamendsltd

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #3

In message <[email protected]>
[email protected] (John S) wrote:

> The mount for my rear shock has sheared off, leaving a sharp rusty
> stump where there should be a mount on the axle casing. Should I get a
> new mount welded on, or would it be easier to replace the casing?
>
> S111 Staion wagon.

It really depends on how much you can do yourself. Changing
the axle case is time consuming, but not rocket scince,
but if you can weld, or have a mate who can, that that would
be a lot quicker - personly I subscribe to the "better the
devil you know" theory - if the axles good, stick with it.

Cheers
Richard

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Gordon

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #4

JD <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> John S wrote:
>
> > The mount for my rear shock has sheared off, leaving a sharp rusty
> > stump where there should be a mount on the axle casing. Should I get a
> > new mount welded on, or would it be easier to replace the casing?
> >
> > S111 Staion wagon.
>
> Getting a new one welded on will be easier - but how much else of the axle
> housing is rusted away? Replacing the axle housing is likely to be more
> satisfactory, but is a lot more work, and if it is a LWB you will have to
> buy the whole axle assembly (changing the diff over on a salisbury is not
> feasible).
>
> If you are paying someone to do it, you will probably find replacing the
> whole axle assembly will be cheaper anyway.
> JD


Leaf sprung, isn't the shock mounted to a plate bolted under the
spring with the U-bolts? Just fit a new plate.

Gordon

 

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John S

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #5

> Getting a new one welded on will be easier - but how much else of the axle
> housing is rusted away? Replacing the axle housing is likely to be more
> satisfactory, but is a lot more work, and if it is a LWB you will have to
> buy the whole axle assembly (changing the diff over on a salisbury is not
> feasible).
>
> If you are paying someone to do it, you will probably find replacing the
> whole axle assembly will be cheaper anyway.
> JD

Hmm, well, the mount on the other side is also weak, but could be made
sound with a patch. I was under the impression that the axle casing
was seperable from the diff housing, but a quick look in the Haynes
tells me it's all one big part. I dont like the idea of swappin the
whole assembly out, so I'll see what the local welder says, and take a
view then. Thanks for the pointers JD.

 

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JD

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #6

Gordon wrote:

> JD <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> John S wrote:
>>
>> > The mount for my rear shock has sheared off, leaving a sharp rusty
>> > stump where there should be a mount on the axle casing. Should I get a
>> > new mount welded on, or would it be easier to replace the casing?
>> >
>> > S111 Staion wagon.
>>
>> Getting a new one welded on will be easier - but how much else of the
>> axle housing is rusted away? Replacing the axle housing is likely to be
>> more satisfactory, but is a lot more work, and if it is a LWB you will
>> have to buy the whole axle assembly (changing the diff over on a
>> salisbury is not feasible).
>>
>> If you are paying someone to do it, you will probably find replacing the
>> whole axle assembly will be cheaper anyway.
>> JD
>
>
> Leaf sprung, isn't the shock mounted to a plate bolted under the
> spring with the U-bolts? Just fit a new plate.
>
> Gordon

I think he must have a lwb, which will have the shock attachment welded to
the axle, and will be a salisbury axle.
JD

 

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Megalowmania

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #7

(changing the diff over on a salisbury is not feasible).
Why is that ?

Paul

 

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Andy.Smalley

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #8

"Megalowmania" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> (changing the diff over on a salisbury is not feasible).
> Why is that ?
>
> Paul
>
>
It is feasible but you need spreaders to jack the axle case apart
to get the diff out
It doesn't drop out the front like the rover axle does

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Paul S. Brown

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #9

Andy.Smalley wrote:

>
>
>
> "Megalowmania" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> (changing the diff over on a salisbury is not feasible).
>> Why is that ?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
> It is feasible but you need spreaders to jack the axle case apart
> to get the diff out
> It doesn't drop out the front like the rover axle does
>

Speaking of rover diffs - does anybody know if the studs on the housing are
replacable?

I'm about to have to cut off a couple of them to get a stuffed diff out and
could really do with saving the effort if they're not replacable.

I've already tried heat and a cold chisel - they seem to have decided to
become one with the nuts.

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David G. Bell

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #10

On Friday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "Megalowmania" wrote:

> (changing the diff over on a salisbury is not feasible).
> Why is that ?

It needs a special tool to stretch the casing slightly for removal, and
also you disturb the pinion bearings and have to set them up again.

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EMB

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #11

Paul S. Brown wrote:
>
> Speaking of rover diffs - does anybody know if the studs on the housing are
> replacable?
>

Yep.....they're only bolts held in with lock wire.

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Tom Woods

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• Nov 20, 2004

• #12

On 18 Nov 2004 08:02:01 -0800, [email protected] (John S)
wrote:

>The mount for my rear shock has sheared off, leaving a sharp rusty
>stump where there should be a mount on the axle casing. Should I get a
>new mount welded on, or would it be easier to replace the casing?

If you cannot get somebody to weld it, and wanted to avoid replacing
the axle casing, you could fit two of the shock absorber mounting
plates (as used on non salisbury axled vehicles). that bold under the
axle.
Assuiming they fit, (which they probably do?)
You would also have to replace your shock absorbers then, but its
still less work than doing an axle casing!.

Welding it back on would still seem to be the easiest option though!

 

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beamendsltd

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• Nov 20, 2004

• #13

In message <[email protected]>
"Paul S. Brown" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Andy.Smalley wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > "Megalowmania" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> (changing the diff over on a salisbury is not feasible).
> >> Why is that ?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> > It is feasible but you need spreaders to jack the axle case apart
> > to get the diff out
> > It doesn't drop out the front like the rover axle does
> >
>
> Speaking of rover diffs - does anybody know if the studs on the housing are
> replacable?
>
> I'm about to have to cut off a couple of them to get a stuffed diff out and
> could really do with saving the effort if they're not replacable.
>
> I've already tried heat and a cold chisel - they seem to have decided to
> become one with the nuts.
>
> P.

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beamendsltd

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• Nov 20, 2004

• #14

In message <[email protected]>
[email protected] ("David G. Bell") wrote:

> On Friday, in article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "Megalowmania" wrote:
>
> > (changing the diff over on a salisbury is not feasible).
> > Why is that ?
>
> It needs a special tool to stretch the casing slightly for removal, and
> also you disturb the pinion bearings and have to set them up again.
>

In theory.........

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