Cutting the bulkhead.

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Lee_D

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Sat here day dreaming about how to develope Percy in his next
transformation and it dawned on my that he would be much more user
friendly with a walk through in the bulkhead (He's a swb IIa for those
not paying attention ;0) )

I've got a Plasma cutter and have a vision of a U shaped cut out with
a galved steel brace bolted around the U shape to reinforce it all.

Seems far to simple.. what am I missing?

Lee D
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'76 101 Camper
'64 88" IIa V8 Auto
'97 Disco ES Auto LPG'd
'01 Laguna
 

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sat here day dreaming about how to develope Percy in his next
> transformation and it dawned on my that he would be much more user
> friendly with a walk through in the bulkhead (He's a swb IIa for those
> not paying attention ;0) )
>
> I've got a Plasma cutter and have a vision of a U shaped cut out with
> a galved steel brace bolted around the U shape to reinforce it all.
>
> Seems far to simple.. what am I missing?
>
> Lee D
> --
> www.lrproject.com
> '76 101 Camper
> '64 88" IIa V8 Auto
> '97 Disco ES Auto LPG'd
> '01 Laguna

I have a friend with a 110 van fitted out with beds, cooker etc. The
bulkhead is modded as you suggest, only his cut out is square. Does not seem
to make any difference to the strength of the Landy and it is much more
civilised when it is pouring with rain and you stop for a cuppa.

Nick


 
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 00:09:52 +0100, Lee_D
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Sat here day dreaming about how to develope Percy in his next
>transformation and it dawned on my that he would be much more user
>friendly with a walk through in the bulkhead (He's a swb IIa for those
>not paying attention ;0) )
>
>I've got a Plasma cutter and have a vision of a U shaped cut out with
>a galved steel brace bolted around the U shape to reinforce it all.
>
>Seems far to simple.. what am I missing?

I saw a picture in one of the mags of a 90 that had had the rear
bulkhead cut. They had fitted a brace right across it about halfway
between the top of the wheel box and the capping.

They had done it to enable you to recline the seat further - as the
brace right across it would still leave it quite hard to walk through!

IIRC there was a place advertising them for sale. They were big
tubular braces.

I dont see why you couldnt cut all the way down (to the top of the
seat box anyhow) and just fit a nice hefty brace like you say.
I had thought about doing mine when i was first rebuilding it - but
then i fitted a truck cab and didnt want a big air vent!
I can't see that you would loose that much strength if you re-inforced
it decently?
 
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:02:31 +0100, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I can't see that you would loose that much strength if you re-inforced
>it decently?
Just adding that the strength the bulkhead gives must be across the
vehicle.
If you have a hardtop on (as percy does), and it is bolted on securely
you might be able to get away without any strengthener (or just fit a
strengthener that doubles as a roll bar/cage that runs as close to the
insides of the roof as you can.
 
On or around Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:04:30 +0100, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:02:31 +0100, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I can't see that you would loose that much strength if you re-inforced
>>it decently?
>Just adding that the strength the bulkhead gives must be across the
>vehicle.
>If you have a hardtop on (as percy does), and it is bolted on securely
>you might be able to get away without any strengthener (or just fit a
>strengthener that doubles as a roll bar/cage that runs as close to the
>insides of the roof as you can.

SIII station wagons (and 110s) don't have a bulkhead. On the SIII there's a
rail thingy going across, but on the 110 there's sod-all.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
 
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:20:32 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:04:30 +0100, Tom Woods
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:02:31 +0100, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I can't see that you would loose that much strength if you re-inforced
>>>it decently?
>>Just adding that the strength the bulkhead gives must be across the
>>vehicle.
>>If you have a hardtop on (as percy does), and it is bolted on securely
>>you might be able to get away without any strengthener (or just fit a
>>strengthener that doubles as a roll bar/cage that runs as close to the
>>insides of the roof as you can.
>
>SIII station wagons (and 110s) don't have a bulkhead. On the SIII there's a
>rail thingy going across, but on the 110 there's sod-all.

Good point. They both have hardtops too (and youre unlikely to remove
the hardtop off a station wagon). So presumably the roof strength is
enough to make up for not having it.
 
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:08:22 +0100, "McBad"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I think this is what you're talking about...
>
>http://www.evansuk.ltd.uk/accessorieshome.html
>
>Looks like you could walk through if no centre seat or cubby box.

Yep, thats the kind of thing i was on about!

I would kind of like to remove the bulkhead in my landy.. but ive just
been thinking about when i use it, and that bulkhead is quite useful!
(though i suppose i could make a removeable piece that filled the
hole)
In the last 6 months i have moved a few loads of rubble. A lot of
loads of soil (just chucked in the back to the level of the
capping/tailgate) and quite a few loads of plant cuttings.
All of them made use of the bulkhead to keep my seat seperate to the
loads!

 
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 00:09:52 +0100, Lee_D
<[email protected]> made me spill my meths when he
wrote:

>Seems far to simple.. what am I missing?

One of the carawagons has the bulkhead cut right down for access into
the back body. I'm guessing that a hardtop makes up for the lack of
bulkhead. Maybe cut your shape and roll or fold the edges over if you
are feeling ambitious. I doubt it will affect much unless you are
planning on taking roof off etc at later date. Might be better in the
long run to beef it up now before you tidy things up. How about one of
the walk through stairgates, cut the shape out and weld the main frame
in?
--
Wayne Davies - Mobile 07989 556213 - Harrogate, N.Yorks, UK
 

"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:20:32 +0100, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On or around Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:04:30 +0100, Tom Woods
>><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:02:31 +0100, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I can't see that you would loose that much strength if you re-inforced
>>>>it decently?
>>>Just adding that the strength the bulkhead gives must be across the
>>>vehicle.
>>>If you have a hardtop on (as percy does), and it is bolted on securely
>>>you might be able to get away without any strengthener (or just fit a
>>>strengthener that doubles as a roll bar/cage that runs as close to the
>>>insides of the roof as you can.
>>
>>SIII station wagons (and 110s) don't have a bulkhead. On the SIII there's
>>a
>>rail thingy going across, but on the 110 there's sod-all.
>
> Good point. They both have hardtops too (and youre unlikely to remove
> the hardtop off a station wagon). So presumably the roof strength is
> enough to make up for not having it.

The strength isn't in the roof itself, it's in the station wagon side
frames, as they are one-piece which eliminates the flex at the capping line.
Badger.


 
Lee_D wrote:
> Sat here day dreaming about how to develope Percy in his next
> transformation and it dawned on my that he would be much more user
> friendly with a walk through in the bulkhead (He's a swb IIa for those
> not paying attention ;0) )
>
> I've got a Plasma cutter and have a vision of a U shaped cut out with
> a galved steel brace bolted around the U shape to reinforce it all.
>
> Seems far to simple.. what am I missing?
>
> Lee D
> --
> www.lrproject.com
> '76 101 Camper
> '64 88" IIa V8 Auto
> '97 Disco ES Auto LPG'd
> '01 Laguna


Mudstuff do a similar thing to what you're talking about, have a look
here...

http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/Bulkhead_Removal_Bar.html

Cheers
Mike Tilley
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] writes
>On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 00:09:52 +0100, Lee_D
><[email protected]> made me spill my meths when he
>wrote:
>
>>Seems far to simple.. what am I missing?
>
>One of the carawagons has the bulkhead cut right down for access into
>the back body. I'm guessing that a hardtop makes up for the lack of


As memory serves (mate had one in the 70s), there is a removable bar
that runs level with the top of the lower body, which supports the seat
backs. Wing nut each side, so quick removal. I think it was done so
that (with the SWB) you could drop the front seats down, and have two
full length bunks.


Adrian
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On or around Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:08:22 +0100, "McBad"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>I think this is what you're talking about...
>
>http://www.evansuk.ltd.uk/accessorieshome.html
>
>Looks like you could walk through if no centre seat or cubby box.

looks handy, and ought to fit a series as well, I should think. Walk
through is a relative term though as you still have the seatbox.

Wouldn't allow of more seat movement on the driver's side of a series III
with the front tank, either.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Remember that to change your mind and follow him who sets you right
is to be none the less free than you were before."
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121-180), from Meditations, VIII.16
 
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