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Uli

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• Mar 5, 2005

• #1

I proudly took possession of my first Defender (110 TD5 - 167.000 km) not
that long ago.
Today I noticed that the clutch pedal seemed to have acquired a lot of play
( > 1 inch). Gears are changing fine however. Am I in for something?

 

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McBad

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• Mar 5, 2005

• #2

"Uli" <uliatiafrica.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I proudly took possession of my first Defender (110 TD5 - 167.000 km) not
> that long ago.
> Today I noticed that the clutch pedal seemed to have acquired a lot of
play
> ( > 1 inch). Gears are changing fine however. Am I in for something?
>
>

Has anything happened to the level of the clutch fluid in the reservoir? In
my experience most problems (Tdi 90) are leaks and these will be heralded by
a more or less rapid drop in the reservoir fluid level.

I hope you're not.

Cheers,

M

 

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Uli

Guest

• Mar 6, 2005

• #3

I am definitely having a problem now and need advise.
This morning I was not able to get into gear anymore.
I cannot detect fluid in the clutch fluid reservoir.
So far I could not find a leak, I would not know where to look anyway. No
spots on the ground, although its hard to tell as we had a little bit of
rain last night.
What now?


>
> Has anything happened to the level of the clutch fluid in the reservoir?
> In
> my experience most problems (Tdi 90) are leaks and these will be heralded
> by
> a more or less rapid drop in the reservoir fluid level.
>
> I hope you're not.
>
> Cheers,
>
> M
>
>

 

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Uli

Guest

• Mar 6, 2005

• #4

P.S. Crawled under the engine and found a leak under the bell housing. The
slave (I think that is what you call it) shows dry marks of what looks like
an old leak, nothing fresh.

The whole problem developed quite rapidly from yesterday becoming suspicious
to this morning being stranded. (110 TD5 2000 model)


"Uli" <uliatiafrica.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am definitely having a problem now and need advise.
> This morning I was not able to get into gear anymore.
> I cannot detect fluid in the clutch fluid reservoir.
> So far I could not find a leak, I would not know where to look anyway. No
> spots on the ground, although its hard to tell as we had a little bit of
> rain last night.
> What now?

 

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Marc Draper

Guest

• Mar 6, 2005

• #5

In message <[email protected]>, Uli
<uliatiafrica.com@?.?.invalid> writes
>I am definitely having a problem now and need advise.
>This morning I was not able to get into gear anymore.
>I cannot detect fluid in the clutch fluid reservoir.
>So far I could not find a leak, I would not know where to look anyway. No
>spots on the ground, although its hard to tell as we had a little bit of
>rain last night.
>What now?


If the fluid is not running down the pedal, then you need a new clutch
slave cylinder. As the fluid is being lost into the bell housing.


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Uli

Guest

• Mar 6, 2005

• #6

Thanks Marc, I was hoping for better news.
What are the consequences of having clutch fluid in the bell housing?
Is replacing the slave cylinder a definite workshop job or has it got do-it
yourself potential?
Regards,
Uli


"Marc Draper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, Uli
> <uliatiafrica.com@?.?.invalid> writes
>>I am definitely having a problem now and need advise.
>>This morning I was not able to get into gear anymore.
>>I cannot detect fluid in the clutch fluid reservoir.
>>So far I could not find a leak, I would not know where to look anyway. No
>>spots on the ground, although its hard to tell as we had a little bit of
>>rain last night.
>>What now?
>
>
> If the fluid is not running down the pedal, then you need a new clutch
> slave cylinder. As the fluid is being lost into the bell housing.
>
>
> --
> Marc Draper FOR SALE:
>
> DISCO II (51) GS7 ACE, CLIMATE, SIDE STEPS, BGF AT'S, 67,000 MILES
> DISCOVERY 300 TDI S (R) EPSOM GREEN, AC, 80,000 MILES
> DISCOVERY VAN 300 TDI (M) 100,000 UNTIDY MILES !!
> DISCOVERY 300 TDI (P) XS7 75,000 MILES

 

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Marc Draper

Guest

• Mar 6, 2005

• #7

In message <[email protected]>, Uli
<uliatiafrica.com@?.?.invalid> writes
>Thanks Marc, I was hoping for better news.
>What are the consequences of having clutch fluid in the bell housing?
>Is replacing the slave cylinder a definite workshop job or has it got do-it
>yourself potential?
>Regards,
>Uli
>


As long as you don't poor gallons in it won't be a problem.

Replacing a clutch slave cylinder is a simple job, as with every job the
right tools make it easier.

In my workshop Half an hour from drive in to drive out.

Make sure you have a good brake pipe spanner as not to round of the
union that goes into the slave cylinder. And if the rod pulls out of the
clutch fork just put it back just don't loose it inside the bell housing
it is not the end of the world

A helper to pump the clutch pedal when bleeding is much better than easy
bleed.

Good luck

--
Marc Draper FOR SALE:

DISCO II (51) GS7 ACE, CLIMATE, SIDE STEPS, BGF AT'S, 67,000 MILES
DISCOVERY 300 TDI S (R) EPSOM GREEN, AC, 80,000 MILES
DISCOVERY VAN 300 TDI (M) 100,000 UNTIDY MILES !!
DISCOVERY 300 TDI (P) XS7 75,000 MILES

 

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Uli

Guest

• Mar 6, 2005

• #8

Thanks Marc and Mark, you have lifted my spirits.

Probably a dumb question, but what is eezibleed?

 

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Marc Draper

Guest

• Mar 6, 2005

• #9

In message <[email protected]>, Uli
<uliatiafrica.com@?.?.invalid> writes
>Thanks Marc and Mark, you have lifted my spirits.
>
>Probably a dumb question, but what is eezibleed?
>
>

It pressurises the fluid res using the air from your tyre. But
especially with LR clutch master cylinders just sprays brake fluid
around the engine bay.

If you are on your own they prove their worth.



--
Marc Draper

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Mar 6, 2005

• #10

On or around Sat, 5 Mar 2005 13:07:33 -0000, "McBad"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Uli" <uliatiafrica.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I proudly took possession of my first Defender (110 TD5 - 167.000 km) not
>> that long ago.
>> Today I noticed that the clutch pedal seemed to have acquired a lot of
>play
>> ( > 1 inch). Gears are changing fine however. Am I in for something?
>>
>>
>
>Has anything happened to the level of the clutch fluid in the reservoir? In
>my experience most problems (Tdi 90) are leaks and these will be heralded by
>a more or less rapid drop in the reservoir fluid level.
>

can be an iffy clutch master cylinder, or low fluid. Not sure if that on
has the iffy clutch release arm, if it does, it could be an incipient
failure of same.

If the clutch master cylinder doesn't return fully "home", then it doesn't
let more fluid in from the reservoir.

--
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"'Tis a mad world, my masters" John Taylor (1580-1633) Western Voyage, 1

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Mar 6, 2005

• #11

On or around Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:36:52 +0000, MVP
<mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Yea, have to be sure you have a good seal.
>I have trouble with my legs and back and I almost always work alone so
>the eezibleed is rated 'fecking brilliant' in my book.

I've had things that would only bleed using a pressure bleeder.

You do, however, have to watch your pressures. I find about 10 psi works
oK, I tend to use an old car tyre.

Anything over 20 psi is way too much.

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too much traffic. Avoid the jams by never using your mind on a
Bank Holiday weekend.
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Uli

Guest

• Mar 7, 2005

• #12

Both staff in the Parts Department and the Repair Section asked me on the
phone what makes me so determined that the Slave is at fault and not the
Master Cylinder. 'Because I does not drip down the pedal, also no fluid in
the engine compartment, therefore it must be bleeding into the bell housing'
was my cocksure reply.

Their questioning made me feel a bit uneasy and I started to remove the
rubber in the pedal section. And there it was ... a lot!

No I am busy doing my first big job by removing the master cylinder. Not
being experienced in mechanical jobs at all I wished at times never to have
started with it. But then again - today I became a true rookie Land Rover
man! ( I just hope I will be able to drive mine again once I am done)