Checking fliud level in auto box

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Nige

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• Aug 19, 2004

• #1

Hi, am I correct in thinking the way to check auto box fluid would be with the box in drive? Or do the
dipstick marks take into account of the torque converter filling up? The reason I ask is I just checked
the Trooper & it looks high in N or P. Not tried D yet?

Anyone know?

Ta

Nige

 

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EMB

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• Aug 19, 2004

• #2

Nige wrote:

> Hi, am I correct in thinking the way to check auto box fluid would be with the box in drive? Or do the
> dipstick marks take into account of the torque converter filling up? The reason I ask is I just checked
> the Trooper & it looks high in N or P. Not tried D yet?

Check in neutral, engine running. A slightly overfilled auto gearbox is
a happy gearbox, so unless it's massively overfull I would leave it.


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Nige

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• Aug 19, 2004

• #3

"EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Nige wrote:
>
> > Hi, am I correct in thinking the way to check auto box fluid would be with the box in drive? Or do
the
> > dipstick marks take into account of the torque converter filling up? The reason I ask is I just
checked
> > the Trooper & it looks high in N or P. Not tried D yet?
>
> Check in neutral, engine running. A slightly overfilled auto gearbox is
> a happy gearbox, so unless it's massively overfull I would leave it.
>
>
> --
> EMB
> change two to number to reply

I'll try it matey!

Cheers for that.

Nige

 

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Dave White

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• Aug 19, 2004

• #4

In <[email protected]> Nige wrote:
> Hi, am I correct in thinking the way to check auto box fluid would be
> with the box in drive? Or do the dipstick marks take into account of
> the torque converter filling up? The reason I ask is I just checked
> the Trooper & it looks high in N or P. Not tried D yet?

On a Land Rover you check it in neutral, when cold with the engine
running.

Prior to checking the level you run it through all the gears a few times
and then put it into neutral while you check it. Don't forget to put the
hand brake on

It's normally listed in the owners handbook if you have it. It's
probably best to check there rather than assume that the Trooper gearbox
is the same as a Land Rover one.

cheers

Dave W.
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M0bcg

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• Aug 20, 2004

• #5

engine running at idle , handbrake on [possibly brick under wheel too ] .

gearbox in drive , forward gear .

check dipstick level and top up if necessary .

thats all there is to it .

 

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Nige

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• Aug 20, 2004

• #6

"M0bcg" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> engine running at idle , handbrake on [possibly brick under wheel too ] .
>
> gearbox in drive , forward gear .
>
> check dipstick level and top up if necessary .
>
> thats all there is to it .

I thought it had to be drive too!

 

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The Becketts

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• Aug 21, 2004

• #7

LR say in neutral

Ron


"Nige" <nigel.inceNO****[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "M0bcg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > engine running at idle , handbrake on [possibly brick under wheel too ] .
> >
> > gearbox in drive , forward gear .
> >
> > check dipstick level and top up if necessary .
> >
> > thats all there is to it .
>
> I thought it had to be drive too!
>
>

 

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Mother

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• Aug 21, 2004

• #8

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:10:34 +0100, "Nige"
<nigel.inceNO****[email protected]> wrote:

>> gearbox in drive , forward gear .
>>
>> check dipstick level and top up if necessary .
>>
>> thats all there is to it .
>
>I thought it had to be drive too!

Then you too would be wrong I'm afraid.

Never EVER trust what you read on usenet (unless someone like Dave
White says so...) I double checked, N, running - well pretty much
what Dave posted actually...


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Lofty

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• Aug 22, 2004

• #9

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:52:17 +0100, "Nige"
<nigel.inceNO****[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi, am I correct in thinking the way to check auto box fluid would be with the box in drive? Or do the
>dipstick marks take into account of the torque converter filling up? The reason I ask is I just checked
>the Trooper & it looks high in N or P. Not tried D yet?
>
>Anyone know?
>
>Ta
>
>Nige
>


The LandRover owners manual for my '96 Disco says : with fluid cold,
start engine in park, with engine at idle speed and brakes applied
move selector lever from park to 1 and then back to park, check oil
level on dipstick. Top up level as required.

It needs about I/2 pint to go from low to high mark.

HTH

John

 

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Ivor Clegg

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• Aug 22, 2004

• #10

Nige wrote:
> Hi, am I correct in thinking the way to check auto box fluid would be with the box in drive? Or do the
> dipstick marks take into account of the torque converter filling up? The reason I ask is I just checked
> the Trooper & it looks high in N or P. Not tried D yet?
>
> Anyone know?
>


There are bound to be exceptions, but I have yet to see an auto-box that
DIDN'T have the filling instructions stamped on the dipstick.
I currently have access to 2 ZFs and 2 Chryslers, and they all have the
instructions on their dipsticks.


Ivor.

 

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The Becketts

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• Aug 22, 2004

• #11

The ZF boxes in Land Rovers don't nor does the ZF in my daughter's Peugeot

Ron


"Ivor Clegg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> There are bound to be exceptions, but I have yet to see an auto-box that
> DIDN'T have the filling instructions stamped on the dipstick.
> I currently have access to 2 ZFs and 2 Chryslers, and they all have the
> instructions on their dipsticks.
>
>
> Ivor.

 

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Ivor Clegg

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• Aug 22, 2004

• #12

The Becketts wrote:
> "Ivor Clegg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>There are bound to be exceptions, but I have yet to see an auto-box that
>>DIDN'T have the filling instructions stamped on the dipstick.
>>I currently have access to 2 ZFs and 2 Chryslers, and they all have the
>>instructions on their dipsticks.
>>
>>
>>Ivor.
>
>
>
> The ZF boxes in Land Rovers don't nor does the ZF in my daughter's
Peugeot
>
> Ron
>
>

You made me go out in the rain!

Just checked BOTH ZF HP-22 boxes in the workshop.
Both from '92-'93 Range Rovers.
Both dipsticks clearly stamped: 'CHECK WHEN COLD - IDLING IN NEUTRAL'
followed by 'DANGER - DO NOT OVERFILL'.


Ivor.

 

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Richard Savage

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• Aug 24, 2004

• #13

Ivor Clegg wrote:

>
> You made me go out in the rain!
>
> Just checked BOTH ZF HP-22 boxes in the workshop.
> Both from '92-'93 Range Rovers.
> Both dipsticks clearly stamped: 'CHECK WHEN COLD - IDLING IN NEUTRAL'
> followed by 'DANGER - DO NOT OVERFILL'.
>
>
> Ivor.
>
>
But, my M-I-L's newish SAAB has no instructions on the autobox dipstick
and, according to the handbook, must be checked when at normal operating
temp in neutral,

Richard

 

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Ivor Clegg

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• Aug 25, 2004

• #14

Richard Savage wrote:
>
>
> Ivor Clegg wrote:
>
>>
>> You made me go out in the rain!
>>
>> Just checked BOTH ZF HP-22 boxes in the workshop.
>> Both from '92-'93 Range Rovers.
>> Both dipsticks clearly stamped: 'CHECK WHEN COLD - IDLING IN NEUTRAL'
>> followed by 'DANGER - DO NOT OVERFILL'.
>>
>>
>> Ivor.
>>
>>
> But, my M-I-L's newish SAAB has no instructions on the autobox dipstick
> and, according to the handbook, must be checked when at normal operating
> temp in neutral,
>
> Richard
>

You must've missed the bit where I wrote: "There are bound to be
exceptions".
Looks like you found one

Ivor.

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Aug 25, 2004

• #15

On or around Wed, 25 Aug 2004 01:14:00 +0100, Ivor Clegg
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Richard Savage wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ivor Clegg wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You made me go out in the rain!
>>>
>>> Just checked BOTH ZF HP-22 boxes in the workshop.
>>> Both from '92-'93 Range Rovers.
>>> Both dipsticks clearly stamped: 'CHECK WHEN COLD - IDLING IN NEUTRAL'
>>> followed by 'DANGER - DO NOT OVERFILL'.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ivor.
>>>
>>>
>> But, my M-I-L's newish SAAB has no instructions on the autobox dipstick
>> and, according to the handbook, must be checked when at normal operating
>> temp in neutral,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>
>You must've missed the bit where I wrote: "There are bound to be
>exceptions".
>Looks like you found one

they're all different, but in this case "all" means the box-makers, not the
car-makers. We have an ex-ambulance here with a GM 65 autobox, and IIRC on
that you check the fluid level idling, warm, in "D". With the handbrake
firmly on.

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EMB

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• Aug 25, 2004

• #16

Austin Shackles wrote:

>
> they're all different, but in this case "all" means the box-makers, not the
> car-makers. We have an ex-ambulance here with a GM 65 autobox, and IIRC on
> that you check the fluid level idling, warm, in "D". With the handbrake
> firmly on.

The Ford I sold last year was checked in Park within 30 seconds of
shutting off the engine - a bit of a hassle, but untold better than
SWMBO's BMW that you check with a level plug in the trans pan.


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Badger

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• Aug 25, 2004

• #17

"EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> >
> > they're all different, but in this case "all" means the box-makers, not
the
> > car-makers. We have an ex-ambulance here with a GM 65 autobox, and IIRC
on
> > that you check the fluid level idling, warm, in "D". With the handbrake
> > firmly on.

Austin, not being picky but what's a GM65? Never heard of that one, have
worked on BW65 though.

> The Ford I sold last year was checked in Park within 30 seconds of
> shutting off the engine - a bit of a hassle, but untold better than
> SWMBO's BMW that you check with a level plug in the trans pan.

If my memory serves me right (but I may be wrong), that was how you checked
the 2.9 Granada with the world's worst autobox, the Ford A4LD. It's one of
the few that isn't checked running. Some say check in park, some neutral,
even some in drive! Some after cycling twice through all gears. Best advice
is to read the book and get it right, as either over or underfilling will
wreck an autobox. If underfilled, the oil will overtemp very quickly and
it's bye-bye clutch plates, if overfilled then it froths and this causes
plate failure due to wet clutch plates now running partially dry.
EMB, your wifes BMW is better than mine, mine has to go on their flaming
computer and the level is checked electronically against temperature! (2001
330dSE)


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EMB

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• Aug 25, 2004

• #18

Badger wrote:

> If my memory serves me right (but I may be wrong), that was how you checked
> the 2.9 Granada with the world's worst autobox, the Ford A4LD. It's one of
> the few that isn't checked running.

Mine was the Australian BTR 'box. Good until they finally ****
themselves at 100K but being overfull doesn't hurt them noticeably.

> EMB, your wifes BMW is better than mine, mine has to go on their flaming
> computer and the level is checked electronically against temperature! (2001
> 330dSE)

I'll bet there's still a level bung somewhere that can be used cold (at
least for initial fill) and is probably near enough to do the job.


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Austin Shackles

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• Aug 25, 2004

• #19

On or around Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:35:49 +0100, "Badger"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > they're all different, but in this case "all" means the box-makers, not
>the
>> > car-makers. We have an ex-ambulance here with a GM 65 autobox, and IIRC
>on
>> > that you check the fluid level idling, warm, in "D". With the handbrake
>> > firmly on.
>
>Austin, not being picky but what's a GM65? Never heard of that one, have
>worked on BW65 though.


erm... I *think* it was 65. might've been 63. damned if I know where the
book is now. It was fitted to a 2.3 litre Bedford CF. well, it still is,
but the thing's now non-functional. AFAIK, though, the box is in decent
nick, so maybe what we should be doing is hauling it out and flogging it.

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Nige

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• Aug 19, 2004

• #20

"EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Nige wrote:
>
> > Hi, am I correct in thinking the way to check auto box fluid would be with the box in drive? Or do
the
> > dipstick marks take into account of the torque converter filling up? The reason I ask is I just
checked
> > the Trooper & it looks high in N or P. Not tried D yet?
>
> Check in neutral, engine running. A slightly overfilled auto gearbox is
> a happy gearbox, so unless it's massively overfull I would leave it.
>
>
> --
> EMB
> change two to number to reply

I'll try it matey!

Cheers for that.

Nige