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Adrian Ford

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Hi, Just fitted new Drums and brake shoes to the rear of my 1981 series 3
SWB. Put the brake springs back in the same place they came off but when I
put the drums on the wheels wont turn.

The bottom springs are ok but I am not sure about the top spring which goes
from Spring post on one shoe to the spring post on the backing plate.This
leaves the other shoe loose at the top and not pushing the cylinder back
in.Should the top spring fit between the top of both shoes not just one?

Cheers
Adrian Ford


 
"Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi, Just fitted new Drums and brake shoes to the rear of my 1981 series 3
> SWB. Put the brake springs back in the same place they came off but when I
> put the drums on the wheels wont turn.
>
> The bottom springs are ok but I am not sure about the top spring which
> goes
> from Spring post on one shoe to the spring post on the backing plate.This
> leaves the other shoe loose at the top and not pushing the cylinder back
> in.Should the top spring fit between the top of both shoes not just one?
>
> Cheers
> Adrian Ford
>
Yo!
Check 'dis out!
http://www.roversnorth.com/techtips/ttbrake.html
Jon 2xS3 = lots of bits....



 

"Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi, Just fitted new Drums and brake shoes to the rear of my 1981 series
3
> > SWB. Put the brake springs back in the same place they came off but when
I
> > put the drums on the wheels wont turn.
> >
> > The bottom springs are ok but I am not sure about the top spring which
> > goes
> > from Spring post on one shoe to the spring post on the backing
plate.This
> > leaves the other shoe loose at the top and not pushing the cylinder back
> > in.Should the top spring fit between the top of both shoes not just one?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Adrian Ford
> >
> Yo!
> Check 'dis out!
> http://www.roversnorth.com/techtips/ttbrake.html
> Jon 2xS3 = lots of bits....
>
Cheers Jon...



 

"Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hi, Just fitted new Drums and brake shoes to the rear of my 1981
series
> 3
> > > SWB. Put the brake springs back in the same place they came off but
when
> I
> > > put the drums on the wheels wont turn.
> > >
> > > The bottom springs are ok but I am not sure about the top spring which
> > > goes
> > > from Spring post on one shoe to the spring post on the backing
> plate.This
> > > leaves the other shoe loose at the top and not pushing the cylinder
back
> > > in.Should the top spring fit between the top of both shoes not just
one?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Adrian Ford
> > >
> > Yo!
> > Check 'dis out!
> > http://www.roversnorth.com/techtips/ttbrake.html
> > Jon 2xS3 = lots of bits....
> >
> Cheers Jon...
>
>
> After 2 days of laying on a cold wet floor grovelling about with the back
brakes I have found the problem. The wheel cylinders were pushing out the
shoes so the drum was too tight on the shoes.As there was no fluid in the
cylinders it was the spring in the cylinder pushing out the pistons too
far.First I removed the spring and every thing worked ok.

My questions are, Is it because its a cheapy cylinder from paddocks and what
will happen to the wheel cylinders with no spring in them? Has anyone had
any experience of this?
Cheers
Adrian Ford


 
"Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > "Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> > > Hi, Just fitted new Drums and brake shoes to the rear of my 1981
> series
>> 3
>> > > SWB. Put the brake springs back in the same place they came off but
> when
>> I
>> > > put the drums on the wheels wont turn.
>> > >
>> > > The bottom springs are ok but I am not sure about the top spring
>> > > which
>> > > goes
>> > > from Spring post on one shoe to the spring post on the backing
>> plate.This
>> > > leaves the other shoe loose at the top and not pushing the cylinder
> back
>> > > in.Should the top spring fit between the top of both shoes not just
> one?
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > > Adrian Ford
>> > >
>> > Yo!
>> > Check 'dis out!
>> > http://www.roversnorth.com/techtips/ttbrake.html
>> > Jon 2xS3 = lots of bits....
>> >
>> Cheers Jon...
>>
>>
>> After 2 days of laying on a cold wet floor grovelling about with the back
> brakes I have found the problem. The wheel cylinders were pushing out the
> shoes so the drum was too tight on the shoes.As there was no fluid in the
> cylinders it was the spring in the cylinder pushing out the pistons too
> far.First I removed the spring and every thing worked ok.
>
> My questions are, Is it because its a cheapy cylinder from paddocks and
> what
> will happen to the wheel cylinders with no spring in them? Has anyone had
> any experience of this?
> Cheers
> Adrian Ford
>
Have you turned the adjusters back (the snaail cam) as far as they will go?
It needs the springs! There are two types of cylinder (front ones and back
ones) , but this won't cause this problem if they are mixed up.
You're not anywhere near Surrey are you?
Jon


 

"Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > "Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[email protected]...
> >> > > Hi, Just fitted new Drums and brake shoes to the rear of my 1981
> > series
> >> 3
> >> > > SWB. Put the brake springs back in the same place they came off but
> > when
> >> I
> >> > > put the drums on the wheels wont turn.
> >> > >
> >> > > The bottom springs are ok but I am not sure about the top spring
> >> > > which
> >> > > goes
> >> > > from Spring post on one shoe to the spring post on the backing
> >> plate.This
> >> > > leaves the other shoe loose at the top and not pushing the cylinder
> > back
> >> > > in.Should the top spring fit between the top of both shoes not just
> > one?
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > > Adrian Ford
> >> > >
> >> > Yo!
> >> > Check 'dis out!
> >> > http://www.roversnorth.com/techtips/ttbrake.html
> >> > Jon 2xS3 = lots of bits....
> >> >
> >> Cheers Jon...
> >>
> >>
> >> After 2 days of laying on a cold wet floor grovelling about with the
back
> > brakes I have found the problem. The wheel cylinders were pushing out
the
> > shoes so the drum was too tight on the shoes.As there was no fluid in
the
> > cylinders it was the spring in the cylinder pushing out the pistons too
> > far.First I removed the spring and every thing worked ok.
> >
> > My questions are, Is it because its a cheapy cylinder from paddocks and
> > what
> > will happen to the wheel cylinders with no spring in them? Has anyone
had
> > any experience of this?
> > Cheers
> > Adrian Ford
> >
> Have you turned the adjusters back (the snaail cam) as far as they will
go?
> It needs the springs! There are two types of cylinder (front ones and
back
> ones) , but this won't cause this problem if they are mixed up.
> You're not anywhere near Surrey are you?
> Jon
>
> Jon
I have narrowed it down to the either the shoe return springs are not
holding the shoes into the wheel cylinder strong enough or the wheel
cylinders are faulty going to get some new ones today..
Cheers
Adrian Ford


 
In message <[email protected]>
"Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "Adrian Ford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Hi, Just fitted new Drums and brake shoes to the rear of my 1981
> series
> > 3
> > > > SWB. Put the brake springs back in the same place they came off but
> when
> > I
> > > > put the drums on the wheels wont turn.
> > > >
> > > > The bottom springs are ok but I am not sure about the top spring which
> > > > goes
> > > > from Spring post on one shoe to the spring post on the backing
> > plate.This
> > > > leaves the other shoe loose at the top and not pushing the cylinder
> back
> > > > in.Should the top spring fit between the top of both shoes not just
> one?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Adrian Ford
> > > >
> > > Yo!
> > > Check 'dis out!
> > > http://www.roversnorth.com/techtips/ttbrake.html
> > > Jon 2xS3 = lots of bits....
> > >
> > Cheers Jon...
> >
> >
> > After 2 days of laying on a cold wet floor grovelling about with the back
> brakes I have found the problem. The wheel cylinders were pushing out the
> shoes so the drum was too tight on the shoes.As there was no fluid in the
> cylinders it was the spring in the cylinder pushing out the pistons too
> far.First I removed the spring and every thing worked ok.
>
> My questions are, Is it because its a cheapy cylinder from paddocks and what
> will happen to the wheel cylinders with no spring in them? Has anyone had
> any experience of this?
> Cheers
> Adrian Ford
>
>

What are that part numbers of the wheel cylinders you are trying to fit,
and to which vehcile?

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