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> On or around Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:56 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> This might sound like a stupid question .. but why won't a 'normal'
>> transit etc minibus do ?
>
> the route favours the extra toughness and 4x4... the current disco does
> well enough, but next year won't have enough seats, even with my bench
> seat mod in the back.

Hmm .. also read your other replies and I tend to now agree with you that a
'Transit' though it could be almost any minibus I guess, body on a LR
chassis would seem to be reasonable. Be a fun project too, 'cos there's no
worries about the engine / transmission details as they won't be changed.
If you can pick up a good, nackered engine, minibus it becomes very viable
... ;)

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules !!!
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 
In news:[email protected],
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> blithered:
> On or around Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:10:53 -0000, "GbH"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> What's this PCV, I'm Familiar with PSV, is that the same?
>
> PCV is the new PSV. Passenger Carrying Vehicle. Anything more than 8
> passengers, if used for hire or reward.

Oke, didn no that. Ta.

But don't most vehicles carry passengers?


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maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
In news:p[email protected],
[email protected] <[email protected]> blithered:
> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:32:18 +0000, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On or around Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:40:45 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> The 4x4 transits probably will - those things are scarily proficient
>>> offroad.
>
> Is this the conversion done by County?
>
>>
>> I think the 4x4 trannies are only large, twin-wheel ones. Thus, in
>> fact, they actually have 6 tyres which helps off-road.
>
> Bummer when you get a brick stuck between the wheels though.
>
> AJH

Or one of them new minis!


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UR SHGb02+14 &ICMFP
If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:21:06 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:56 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>This might sound like a stupid question .. but why won't a 'normal' transit
>>etc minibus do ?
>
>the route favours the extra toughness and 4x4... the current disco does well
>enough, but next year won't have enough seats, even with my bench seat mod
>in the back.

A quick measurement of the Sherpa tipper parked outside suggests a
wheelbase of 128".

V8 rapier 127 may fit.

AJH

 

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
> "Tim Guy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I remember trying to get my 90 up a pass in the Lakes one New Years.
There
> > were patches of ice right across the road.
>
> Would this be the Rhino Pass leading to Hardnott Fort?
>

I'm not sure. North of Coniston. turn left off into the hill, heading for
the coast. Pub in the middle of now where on righthand side as you head out.

Tim



 

"Someone" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p[email protected]...
>> "Tim Guy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > I remember trying to get my 90 up a pass in the Lakes one New Years.
> There
>> > were patches of ice right across the road.
>>
>> Would this be the Rhino Pass leading to Hardnott Fort?
>>
>
> I'm not sure. North of Coniston. turn left off into the hill, heading for
> the coast. Pub in the middle of now where on righthand side as you head out.
>
> Tim
>
>
>

Near Langdale?

Nige


 
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 16:35:13 GMT, "Someone" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>
>> Would this be the Rhino Pass leading to Hardnott Fort?
>>
>
>I'm not sure. North of Coniston. turn left off into the hill, heading for
>the coast. Pub in the middle of now where on righthand side as you head out.

Sounds like it, the first through road left off the A593 north out of
coniston goes to Little Langdale, the bit from here west is Wrynose
pass, turn right over a bridge and then you have Hardknot pass, t'ther
side of that is the fort.

I followed a disco with a sheep laden trailer one evening last summer,
despite a powerful, but large, car ther was no way I was going to keep
up with it.

AJH
 
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:57:50 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>about a LR PCV minibus, probably to carry about 12.
>
>notwithstanding that the 101 is a tempting idea, as is the 6x6 disco, the
>latter would still not hold enough people, and the former might be tricky
>and/or expensive to keep running on a day-to-day basis.
>
>So, on to today's thoughts:
>
>Take a 110 rolling chassis, and mount a transit minibus body on it. Would
>doubtless require a certain amount of modification to the bulkhead etc., but
>since the body would stop being structural (except in as much as it needed
>to be to hold itself together, and provide seat and belt anchor points) then
>that wouldn't be a problem. It could be built using a new chassis and
>suitable donor parts, or indeed I suppose by buying new parts to create a
>rolling chassis.
>
>question is, will the council give me a lucrative enough contract to pay for
>it, and for the PCV licence to drive it...

Would it not be easier to use an Iveco Daily tub ? Those are still
chassis mounted, which at least sounds easier to modify to me.

Peter R.
 
On or around Sat, 6 Nov 2004 11:07:10 -0000, "GbH"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>In news:[email protected],
>Austin Shackles <[email protected]> blithered:
>> On or around Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:10:53 -0000, "GbH"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>> What's this PCV, I'm Familiar with PSV, is that the same?
>>
>> PCV is the new PSV. Passenger Carrying Vehicle. Anything more than 8
>> passengers, if used for hire or reward.
>
>Oke, didn no that. Ta.
>
>But don't most vehicles carry passengers?

I never said it was sensible.


 
On or around Sat, 6 Nov 2004 11:06:11 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Hmm .. also read your other replies and I tend to now agree with you that a
>'Transit' though it could be almost any minibus I guess, body on a LR
>chassis would seem to be reasonable. Be a fun project too, 'cos there's no
>worries about the engine / transmission details as they won't be changed.
>If you can pick up a good, nackered engine, minibus it becomes very viable
>.. ;)

exactly. I fancy the transit body for its width, though. Small sherpa body
is narrow, I used to have a succession of 'em. The tranny is about 9"
wider, so easier to get a decent number of seats in it.

an additional advantage is that rot on the bodywork is mostly
non-structural...

have to price up a new chassis, axles etc. for a 110... :)

 
On or around Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:36:18 GMT, Peter R. <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:57:50 +0000, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>about a LR PCV minibus, probably to carry about 12.
>>
>>notwithstanding that the 101 is a tempting idea, as is the 6x6 disco, the
>>latter would still not hold enough people, and the former might be tricky
>>and/or expensive to keep running on a day-to-day basis.
>>
>>So, on to today's thoughts:
>>
>>Take a 110 rolling chassis, and mount a transit minibus body on it. Would
>>doubtless require a certain amount of modification to the bulkhead etc., but
>>since the body would stop being structural (except in as much as it needed
>>to be to hold itself together, and provide seat and belt anchor points) then
>>that wouldn't be a problem. It could be built using a new chassis and
>>suitable donor parts, or indeed I suppose by buying new parts to create a
>>rolling chassis.
>>
>>question is, will the council give me a lucrative enough contract to pay for
>>it, and for the PCV licence to drive it...
>
>Would it not be easier to use an Iveco Daily tub ? Those are still
>chassis mounted, which at least sounds easier to modify to me.

probably too big. The smaller transits are approx LR sized.

 
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:40:28 +0000, [email protected] wrote:

>Sounds like it, the first through road left off the A593 north out of
>coniston goes to Little Langdale, the bit from here west is Wrynose
>pass, turn right over a bridge and then you have Hardknot pass, t'ther
>side of that is the fort.

I have a timelapse of us doing these two passes somewhere. They're
not actually that bad really.

Mind, did it in summer with the Disco. Intend going back in winter in
Grumble and camping near the old fort.

 
"Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote:

>If it's _that_ flooded, will the schools be open, and / or will there
>actually be a need to drive schoolkids anywhere?

Here we have such flooding up to twice a year (I am waitung for the
next one, the last one had been left out :), and it is a big nuisance
with all the blocked roads, but life goes on, just some km more to go.
With our defender many of those blocked roads would be not a problem
at all; the problem are the signs, blocking the roads, and the cops,
standing there and preventing dumbasses to drive around the signs
with their small cookie boxes, just to crack their engines when water
is sucked in :)



regards - Ralph

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