Battery Condition Observations Charge Discharge Voltage Problems

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Druim

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A wee self study over a near two day period P38 1995 4.6 HSE
Battery modified with extra positive & negative cables giving slightly higher voltage

Outdoor temperature 6-8 degrees & near frost overnight
Beginning: Unlocked car measured 12.2 V on Battery, car had stood still for 1 day
Started car measured 14.18 V no matter revs. Stopped engine no driving.
+ 1 Hour 12.6 V
+ 18 Hours 12.2 V
+ 42 Hours 12.2 V - Started measured 14.19 V
after ½ hour drive with 3 stop/starts measured 14.08 V engine running.
+ 44 Hours measured 12.5 V and it will likely drop back to 12.2 V overnight
+ 44 Hours started car measured 14.1 put all lights on voltage dropped to 14.02 V
(+ Hours are from beginning)

Conclusion: Max. charge in present conditions is near 14.2 Volts going down when not so much charge needed or consumers/lights are on.
Voltage on battery drops to 12.6 V over an hour after stop & to 12.2 V overnight
In very cold weather I remember to have seen slightly higher charge voltage

Rangie are happy with these conditions – I think!
 
A wee self study over a near two day period P38 1995 4.6 HSE
Battery modified with extra positive & negative cables giving slightly higher voltage

Outdoor temperature 6-8 degrees & near frost overnight
Beginning: Unlocked car measured 12.2 V on Battery, car had stood still for 1 day
Started car measured 14.18 V no matter revs. Stopped engine no driving.
+ 1 Hour 12.6 V
+ 18 Hours 12.2 V
+ 42 Hours 12.2 V - Started measured 14.19 V
after ½ hour drive with 3 stop/starts measured 14.08 V engine running.
+ 44 Hours measured 12.5 V and it will likely drop back to 12.2 V overnight
+ 44 Hours started car measured 14.1 put all lights on voltage dropped to 14.02 V
(+ Hours are from beginning)

Conclusion: Max. charge in present conditions is near 14.2 Volts going down when not so much charge needed or consumers/lights are on.
Voltage on battery drops to 12.6 V over an hour after stop & to 12.2 V overnight
In very cold weather I remember to have seen slightly higher charge voltage

Rangie are happy with these conditions – I think!

So, like mine the regulator set point will be 14.2 volts which is within the recomended range for maintenance free batteries, albeit at the bottom of the range, so will just take longer to fully re-charge the battery than a 14.5 volt set point.
I'm a little surprised at the battery dropping to 12.2 volts so quickly though.
 
Another experience:
2 days ago the neighbour’s Japanese diesel 4x4 was out of power due to lights left on over night, there was not even a glow in instruments so very flat, battery 5 years old.
Charged up with 13.4 V from portable charger – when finished measured 13.2 V charger off and after 1 hour still 13 Volts – started up no problems.
Next day 12.92 V - measured charge when started to 14.65 Volts – considerably more than the Rangie’s near 14.2 V
My point is had this been a P38 I don’t think it would have been trouble free but needed lots of the Magic wand, SRS reset being one issue – being Japanese not a single problem/issue and it doesn’t discharge the battery rapidly and the battery is tiny compared to mine which is near new.
So a modified alternator with higher Voltage may do the P38 battery good? - Battery suffering from undercharge?
 
Another experience:
2 days ago the neighbour’s Japanese diesel 4x4 was out of power due to lights left on over night, there was not even a glow in instruments so very flat, battery 5 years old.
Charged up with 13.4 V from portable charger – when finished measured 13.2 V charger off and after 1 hour still 13 Volts – started up no problems.
Next day 12.92 V - measured charge when started to 14.65 Volts – considerably more than the Rangie’s near 14.2 V
My point is had this been a P38 I don’t think it would have been trouble free but needed lots of the Magic wand, SRS reset being one issue – being Japanese not a single problem/issue and it doesn’t discharge the battery rapidly and the battery is tiny compared to mine which is near new.
So a modified alternator with higher Voltage may do the P38 battery good? - Battery suffering from undercharge?

Exactly so. Most of the stuff I have dealt with over the last 20 years has been Jap and 14.5 to 14.8 volts seems to be the norm. Batteries last for a very long time when fully charged. Regulators are available at higher set points then the P38 has a standard.
Before the regulators were fully encapsulated I used to open them up and modify the set point for marine use, after encapsulation it was disembowel them and fit an external smart regulator with remote voltage sensing, battery temperature sensing and phased charging, 15 volts to start then dropping back to 14.5 and finally 13.8 when the battery was fully charged as a maintenance charge.:)
 
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