Advice Needed Please - How much should I advertise my 90 for?

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Hi all,

Thinking of selling the 90 and sawpping it for a bit newer one (TD5).
What do you guys think it would be worth and what should I advertise
it at?

My 90 is a 1992 200tdi Hard Top in Blue with 150k miles.

Discs all round with new pads and discs.
New radiator
New Steering Box
New Steering Pump
New Clutch Master cylinder
New OME Steering damper
Just replaced Head Gasket. Honing marks still all present and
each cylinder is within 5% compression of its neighbour.
4 x 1/4 worn BFG AT 235x85 R16 Tyres on Disco Steels.
1 x new BFG AT 235x85 R16 Tyres on Disco Steel.
Orange Polybushes throughout
No Oil Leaks from Engine / Gearbox / T/Box - Honest!
New TD5 front Bumper
K&N Air Filter
New doors and hindges.

Chassis has had a few patches welded to the main rails (by me), front
and rear ends in fair condition. Bulkhead is sound.

Vehicle also has the following but I think I would remove these and
transplant to new vehicle:
Mantec Wheel Carrier
PC1700 Odyssey Battery
9mm Aluminium Steering Guard
Diff guards
On-board York 12cfm air compressor, air tank, pressure switch
and air filter.

Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is the
best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag or on the
newsgroup??

Thanks
Jon
 
....and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...

> Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is the
> best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag or on the
> newsgroup??
>
> Thanks
> Jon

Ebay - guaranteed to sell if you're in a hurry. Will get a ridiculous price
(high or low) depending on the market & the idiocy of buyers
Magazine - probably best price if you don't mind waiting
This group - guaranteed good home, but not the broadest of markets.

--
Rich
==============================

There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary
and those who don't.


 


>Hi all,
>
>Thinking of selling the 90 and sawpping it for a bit newer one (TD5).
>What do you guys think it would be worth and what should I advertise
>it at?
>
>My 90 is a 1992 200tdi Hard Top in Blue with 150k miles.
>
> Discs all round with new pads and discs.
> New radiator
> New Steering Box
> New Steering Pump
> New Clutch Master cylinder
> New OME Steering damper
> Just replaced Head Gasket. Honing marks still all present and
>each cylinder is within 5% compression of its neighbour.
> 4 x 1/4 worn BFG AT 235x85 R16 Tyres on Disco Steels.
> 1 x new BFG AT 235x85 R16 Tyres on Disco Steel.
> Orange Polybushes throughout
> No Oil Leaks from Engine / Gearbox / T/Box - Honest!
> New TD5 front Bumper
> K&N Air Filter
> New doors and hindges.
New exhaust too
Forgot to say had new springs and Monroe Gas dampers about 3 years
ago.


>
>Chassis has had a few patches welded to the main rails (by me), front
>and rear ends in fair condition. Bulkhead is sound.
>
>Vehicle also has the following but I think I would remove these and
>transplant to new vehicle:
> Mantec Wheel Carrier
> PC1700 Odyssey Battery
> 9mm Aluminium Steering Guard
> Diff guards
> On-board York 12cfm air compressor, air tank, pressure switch
>and air filter.
>
>Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is the
>best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag or on the
>newsgroup??
>
>Thanks
>Jon
 
On or around Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:24:18 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
>> Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is the
>> best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag or on the
>> newsgroup??
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jon
>
>Ebay - guaranteed to sell if you're in a hurry. Will get a ridiculous price
>(high or low) depending on the market & the idiocy of buyers

don't put the starting bid too high, and don't put the reserve too high.
Mostly, these days, things seem to find their own level on eBay. I know one
chap (not selling LRs, mind) who puts everything up as 99p start and no
reserve, and has had very few complete washouts.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic
face by frightening people in the street.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:43:45 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:24:18 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>
>>> Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is the
>>> best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag or on the
>>> newsgroup??
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jon
>>
>>Ebay - guaranteed to sell if you're in a hurry. Will get a ridiculous price
>>(high or low) depending on the market & the idiocy of buyers
>
>don't put the starting bid too high, and don't put the reserve too high.
>Mostly, these days, things seem to find their own level on eBay. I know one
>chap (not selling LRs, mind) who puts everything up as 99p start and no
>reserve, and has had very few complete washouts.

Any ideas what a sensible reserve would be?
Jon
 
Jon wrote:

> Any ideas what a sensible reserve would be?

I'd say it was worth about £2500. Depends a lot on how straight and
clean it looks. If you're going to ebay it then I'd keep the reserve
low, you are more likely to interest bidders more and get them actively
involved in the auction process.

Regards

William MacLeod

 
On or around 28 Feb 2006 04:13:41 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Jon wrote:
>
>> Any ideas what a sensible reserve would be?
>
>I'd say it was worth about £2500. Depends a lot on how straight and
>clean it looks. If you're going to ebay it then I'd keep the reserve
>low, you are more likely to interest bidders more and get them actively
>involved in the auction process.

the reserve is so that you don't end up selling it ridiculously cheap,
basically. It's often a mistake to put the reserve at the level you
actually want.

The other one is "buy it now" - that definitely puts a ceiling on what you
get for it, so if you do a "buy it now", then put that at the price you
think you ought to get for it, on a good day. Put the reserve somewhat
lower.

If the bidding only just gets to the reserve, then you get that. If it
starts to get near the BiN price and someone's keen, they may jump in and
buy it, in case they lose it.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 

>Jon wrote:
>
>> Any ideas what a sensible reserve would be?
>
>I'd say it was worth about £2500. Depends a lot on how straight and
>clean it looks. If you're going to ebay it then I'd keep the reserve
>low, you are more likely to interest bidders more and get them actively
>involved in the auction process.
>
>Regards
>
>William MacLeod


£2500 - would that be to trade or private? I was rather hoping for
around the £4k mark (but then I could be way off mark).

At £2500 its almost work breaking and selling it in bits!

Thanks
Jon
 
Jon wrote:

> £2500 - would that be to trade or private? I was rather hoping for
> around the £4k mark (but then I could be way off mark).
>
> At £2500 its almost work breaking and selling it in bits!

I'm Scottish and every Land Rover I look at that hasn't been rebuilt
with galv bits I see as a pile of rot ;-)

It's a hard top so normally isn't going to make top money (that goes to
county station wagons). It's on it's original lt77 box, it's not got a
good chassis (and that's not a slur on your welding, don't take it like
that!) and by the sounds of it it's been used off road - new bumper,
protection kit etc (presence of off road kit devalues your vehicle in
your "average" buyers eyes). It may well be worth more as parts, and
you'd definately have no trouble shifting the engine for a reasonable
sum. Most of the bits you list are normal service items for a 13 year
old 150k vehicle. By all means start at 4k, you might get that for it
with a weeks advertising! Especially if you have the gift of the gab
like the Irish man the other day selling gennys, he must make regular
visits to the Blarney stone... 90s normally do make fairly good money,
and if you get the right non-Scottish buyer then you're all set.
My tip would be to clean it really,really well inside and out - it's
amazing how few people do that and the difference it makes to the
buyer, it might well be enough to tip the balance from a no sale to
sale.

Regards

William MacLeod

 
....and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:43:45 +0000, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On or around Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:24:18 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> ...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>>
>>>> Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is
>>>> the best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag or
>>>> on the newsgroup??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jon
>>>
>>> Ebay - guaranteed to sell if you're in a hurry. Will get a
>>> ridiculous price (high or low) depending on the market & the idiocy
>>> of buyers
>>
>> don't put the starting bid too high, and don't put the reserve too
>> high. Mostly, these days, things seem to find their own level on
>> eBay. I know one chap (not selling LRs, mind) who puts everything
>> up as 99p start and no reserve, and has had very few complete
>> washouts.
>
> Any ideas what a sensible reserve would be?
> Jon

I always work on the principle that the reserve price should be what you
would (not could) sell it for at an absolute minimum - a pound less and you
would not sell it at all. So if someone came to your door and offered you
£x in cash, you would sell, but £(x-1) and you would tell them where to go.
That way, if it sells at all, you will be happy to sell, and if not, you
still have your goods.

--
Rich
==============================

There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary
and those who don't.


 
>Jon wrote:
>
>> £2500 - would that be to trade or private? I was rather hoping for
>> around the £4k mark (but then I could be way off mark).
>>
>> At £2500 its almost work breaking and selling it in bits!
>
>I'm Scottish and every Land Rover I look at that hasn't been rebuilt
>with galv bits I see as a pile of rot ;-)
>
>It's a hard top so normally isn't going to make top money (that goes to
>county station wagons). It's on it's original lt77 box, it's not got a
>good chassis (and that's not a slur on your welding, don't take it like
>that!) and by the sounds of it it's been used off road - new bumper,
>protection kit etc (presence of off road kit devalues your vehicle in
>your "average" buyers eyes). It may well be worth more as parts, and
>you'd definately have no trouble shifting the engine for a reasonable
>sum. Most of the bits you list are normal service items for a 13 year
>old 150k vehicle. By all means start at 4k, you might get that for it
>with a weeks advertising! Especially if you have the gift of the gab
>like the Irish man the other day selling gennys, he must make regular
>visits to the Blarney stone... 90s normally do make fairly good money,
>and if you get the right non-Scottish buyer then you're all set.
>My tip would be to clean it really,really well inside and out - it's
>amazing how few people do that and the difference it makes to the
>buyer, it might well be enough to tip the balance from a no sale to
>sale.
>
>Regards
>
>William MacLeod

Thanks for the above.
I had planned to remove the protection and transplant to the new
vehicle / sell seperatley.

Sounds like its going to have to be out with the car wax, polish and
Mr Sheen!!!

Thanks
Jon
 
On or around Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:23:17 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:43:45 +0000, Austin Shackles
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On or around Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:24:18 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>> ...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is
>>>>> the best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag or
>>>>> on the newsgroup??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> Ebay - guaranteed to sell if you're in a hurry. Will get a
>>>> ridiculous price (high or low) depending on the market & the idiocy
>>>> of buyers
>>>
>>> don't put the starting bid too high, and don't put the reserve too
>>> high. Mostly, these days, things seem to find their own level on
>>> eBay. I know one chap (not selling LRs, mind) who puts everything
>>> up as 99p start and no reserve, and has had very few complete
>>> washouts.
>>
>> Any ideas what a sensible reserve would be?
>> Jon
>
>I always work on the principle that the reserve price should be what you
>would (not could) sell it for at an absolute minimum - a pound less and you
>would not sell it at all. So if someone came to your door and offered you
>£x in cash, you would sell, but £(x-1) and you would tell them where to go.
>That way, if it sells at all, you will be happy to sell, and if not, you
>still have your goods.

Have a look at 90 auctions and see what they're selling for, put the reserve
around there, and put a BiN at about 4K or what you think it'd fetch on a
good day.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Ask yourself whether you are happy, and you cease to be so."
John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873)
 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> ...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:43:45 +0000, Austin Shackles
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On or around Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:24:18 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>> ...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is
>>>>> the best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag or
>>>>> on the newsgroup??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> Ebay - guaranteed to sell if you're in a hurry. Will get a
>>>> ridiculous price (high or low) depending on the market & the idiocy
>>>> of buyers
>>>
>>> don't put the starting bid too high, and don't put the reserve too
>>> high. Mostly, these days, things seem to find their own level on
>>> eBay. I know one chap (not selling LRs, mind) who puts everything
>>> up as 99p start and no reserve, and has had very few complete
>>> washouts.
>>
>> Any ideas what a sensible reserve would be?
>> Jon
>
> I always work on the principle that the reserve price should be what
> you would (not could) sell it for at an absolute minimum - a pound
> less and you would not sell it at all. So if someone came to your
> door and offered you £x in cash, you would sell, but £(x-1) and you
> would tell them where to go. That way, if it sells at all, you will
> be happy to sell, and if not, you still have your goods.

Seriously, you still have your overvalued goods. Value being defined as usual as
what somebody will give you for it. You have proved your peceived value exceeds
its true value.

--
"He who says it cannot be done is advised not to interrupt her doing
it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
....and GbH spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> Richard Brookman wrote:
>> ...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:43:45 +0000, Austin Shackles
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On or around Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:24:18 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
>>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>>
>>>>> ...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is
>>>>>> the best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag
>>>>>> or on the newsgroup??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>> Ebay - guaranteed to sell if you're in a hurry. Will get a
>>>>> ridiculous price (high or low) depending on the market & the
>>>>> idiocy of buyers
>>>>
>>>> don't put the starting bid too high, and don't put the reserve too
>>>> high. Mostly, these days, things seem to find their own level on
>>>> eBay. I know one chap (not selling LRs, mind) who puts everything
>>>> up as 99p start and no reserve, and has had very few complete
>>>> washouts.
>>>
>>> Any ideas what a sensible reserve would be?
>>> Jon
>>
>> I always work on the principle that the reserve price should be what
>> you would (not could) sell it for at an absolute minimum - a pound
>> less and you would not sell it at all. So if someone came to your
>> door and offered you £x in cash, you would sell, but £(x-1) and you
>> would tell them where to go. That way, if it sells at all, you will
>> be happy to sell, and if not, you still have your goods.
>
> Seriously, you still have your overvalued goods. Value being defined
> as usual as what somebody will give you for it. You have proved your
> peceived value exceeds its true value.

To be picky ... I'd question the idea of "true value". I don't think there
is such a thing. To rephrase - you have proved that your perception of the
value exceeds the perceptions of those who saw the auction and were in a
position to bid at that time. It all depends on the market at the time. I
still maintain that if you set your reserve for £1 over a price that would
have you kicking yourself for "giving it away", then you won't go far wrong.

--
Rich
==============================

There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary
and those who don't.


 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> ...and GbH spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
>
>> Richard Brookman wrote:
>>> ...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:43:45 +0000, Austin Shackles
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On or around Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:24:18 -0000, "Richard Brookman"
>>>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and Jon spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts / advice welcomed. Also where would you suggest is
>>>>>>> the best place to get rid if I decide to do so? ebay or LRO Mag
>>>>>>> or on the newsgroup??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ebay - guaranteed to sell if you're in a hurry. Will get a
>>>>>> ridiculous price (high or low) depending on the market & the
>>>>>> idiocy of buyers
>>>>>
>>>>> don't put the starting bid too high, and don't put the reserve too
>>>>> high. Mostly, these days, things seem to find their own level on
>>>>> eBay. I know one chap (not selling LRs, mind) who puts everything
>>>>> up as 99p start and no reserve, and has had very few complete
>>>>> washouts.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas what a sensible reserve would be?
>>>> Jon
>>>
>>> I always work on the principle that the reserve price should be what
>>> you would (not could) sell it for at an absolute minimum - a pound
>>> less and you would not sell it at all. So if someone came to your
>>> door and offered you £x in cash, you would sell, but £(x-1) and you
>>> would tell them where to go. That way, if it sells at all, you will
>>> be happy to sell, and if not, you still have your goods.
>>
>> Seriously, you still have your overvalued goods. Value being defined
>> as usual as what somebody will give you for it. You have proved your
>> peceived value exceeds its true value.
>
> To be picky ... I'd question the idea of "true value". I don't think
> there is such a thing. To rephrase - you have proved that your
> perception of the value exceeds the perceptions of those who saw the
> auction and were in a position to bid at that time. It all depends
> on the market at the time. I still maintain that if you set your
> reserve for £1 over a price that would have you kicking yourself for
> "giving it away", then you won't go far wrong.

Don't think I disagree, just that most?many people put the value of something at
what they paid for it not what someone else would.

--
"He who says it cannot be done is advised not to interrupt her doing
it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
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