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Dougal
Guest
Steve wrote:
> So what do we get for our rates ?
Much the same as the rest of us - very little.
> So what do we get for our rates ?
Much the same as the rest of us - very little.
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Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:55:19 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Collecting the cost is easy - you and I pay for it. No dosh, no
>"certificate". And we get to pay for the new managemenet structure, plus
>a bit for the new council offices and annual dinner & dance.
yeah, but if it's going to be done by weight, they'll have to invoice after
the event, or add it to the council tax next year, or something equally
unwieldy.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"You praise the firm restraint with which they write -_
I'm with you there, of course: They use the snaffle and the bit
alright, but where's the bloody horse? - Roy Campbell (1902-1957)
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Collecting the cost is easy - you and I pay for it. No dosh, no
>"certificate". And we get to pay for the new managemenet structure, plus
>a bit for the new council offices and annual dinner & dance.
yeah, but if it's going to be done by weight, they'll have to invoice after
the event, or add it to the council tax next year, or something equally
unwieldy.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"You praise the firm restraint with which they write -_
I'm with you there, of course: They use the snaffle and the bit
alright, but where's the bloody horse? - Roy Campbell (1902-1957)
T
TonyB
Guest
> I'm affraid that councils just look for any and every excuse to raise
> revenue, and are being given the power to enforce anything they like
> without any effective appeal. For example, the planners can put you
through
> the hoops at will, since they get paid for wasting your time and, even if
> you win, they *never* have to pay costs, so they can mess you about to
> their hearts content. This system is, of course, run by the self-serving
> beaurocrats. Meanwhile, our glorious councilors spend their time debating
> serious issues like what colour recycling bins to have and Womens Issues
> rather than worry about what is actually going on in the council's
> domain.
Indeed. Parents are retired of course, but what happens to some Johnny who
needs to go away on business for a day or two thus having to put his rubbish
out early or it won't be collected. Sorry for leading the thread OT by the
way.
TonyB
> revenue, and are being given the power to enforce anything they like
> without any effective appeal. For example, the planners can put you
through
> the hoops at will, since they get paid for wasting your time and, even if
> you win, they *never* have to pay costs, so they can mess you about to
> their hearts content. This system is, of course, run by the self-serving
> beaurocrats. Meanwhile, our glorious councilors spend their time debating
> serious issues like what colour recycling bins to have and Womens Issues
> rather than worry about what is actually going on in the council's
> domain.
Indeed. Parents are retired of course, but what happens to some Johnny who
needs to go away on business for a day or two thus having to put his rubbish
out early or it won't be collected. Sorry for leading the thread OT by the
way.
TonyB
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Larry
Guest
We have two communal bins, and anything goes in, whatever doesn't gets
dumped by the side for the kids to set light to if it is flammable.
I think certain areas are just abandoned to lawlessness. The council will
claim the bin area is not there responsibility, the housing association
claim it is not theres and so on, whoever you complain to if you want the
rubbish shifting says it is someone elses responsibility.
--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes
"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Councils are increasingly tightening up on collection regimes. We are
> now on fortnightly refuse collection and some areas are now issuing
> smaller bins to small households. There is, believe it or not, a
> black market in large bins! If you get your waste collected
> fortnightly and you are away for a long weekend, it's very tempting to
> put your bin out a few days early before you leave.
>
> It's all going full circle. Waste collections are subcontracted to
> commercial operators who allow their crews to determine their own
> hours. They can forego breaks etc to finish earlier. This has lead
> to instances of crews starting work at stupid o'clock so they can
> finish late morning and go off to second jobs. Several councils are
> using or evaluating GPS to police this, with start times limited to
> 7am or thereabouts. It also allows them to ban crews from major
> routes during rush-hour and resolve complaints.
>
> One of the problems now is of 'assisted collections'. If you are
> disabled you can get the council to instruct the crew to collect your
> bin from inside the garden or even from inside your house. As
> collections get earlier more people register for this. Rounds take
> longer, crews start earlier and earlier etc etc etc....
>
> Technology will ultimately allow billing by weight, and my company is
> involved in a few small scale trials of different methods. It will be
> possible to have flexible collections on a 'pay as you go' basis.
> Credit for recyclables and debit for waste. The unresolved problem is
> 'theft' of waste between neighbours.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim Hobbs
dumped by the side for the kids to set light to if it is flammable.
I think certain areas are just abandoned to lawlessness. The council will
claim the bin area is not there responsibility, the housing association
claim it is not theres and so on, whoever you complain to if you want the
rubbish shifting says it is someone elses responsibility.
--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes
"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Councils are increasingly tightening up on collection regimes. We are
> now on fortnightly refuse collection and some areas are now issuing
> smaller bins to small households. There is, believe it or not, a
> black market in large bins! If you get your waste collected
> fortnightly and you are away for a long weekend, it's very tempting to
> put your bin out a few days early before you leave.
>
> It's all going full circle. Waste collections are subcontracted to
> commercial operators who allow their crews to determine their own
> hours. They can forego breaks etc to finish earlier. This has lead
> to instances of crews starting work at stupid o'clock so they can
> finish late morning and go off to second jobs. Several councils are
> using or evaluating GPS to police this, with start times limited to
> 7am or thereabouts. It also allows them to ban crews from major
> routes during rush-hour and resolve complaints.
>
> One of the problems now is of 'assisted collections'. If you are
> disabled you can get the council to instruct the crew to collect your
> bin from inside the garden or even from inside your house. As
> collections get earlier more people register for this. Rounds take
> longer, crews start earlier and earlier etc etc etc....
>
> Technology will ultimately allow billing by weight, and my company is
> involved in a few small scale trials of different methods. It will be
> possible to have flexible collections on a 'pay as you go' basis.
> Credit for recyclables and debit for waste. The unresolved problem is
> 'theft' of waste between neighbours.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim Hobbs
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Larry
Guest
Well many years ago that is what households with a coal fire did, until the
clean air act came along. There was not the packaging we have then, and most
of what ended up in the metal bin was ash, hence the need for a metal bin
when the fire grate would be emptied, glowing ash in the metal pan carried
through the house and down the garden path.
These days the bin lorries have got too big for the streets, especially when
they are blocking the buses with cars parked on either side, I'll say it
again there is no sence of proportion.
--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes
"William Tasso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news
[email protected]...
> Huw <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> That's what I like to see - throw all the responsibility onto consumers
> and householders.
>
> I bet I'm not the only one here old enough to remember that a complete
> weeks worth of domestic rubbish from a family household would fit in a
> single dustbin. Oh, but silly me - can't use dustbins any more in case
> the poor dears hurt their backs lifting them .. and then they have to put
> them back - what a chore it must be. Still, I understand there are still
> career opportunities in the burger flipping trade.
>
> Incidently, our local council (bless 'em) seem to have hit on a successful
> tactic. Households are encouraged to place all food waste in small
> plastic bin-boxes (the click-on lid type). Since we've been using this
> system the vermin have not bothered our trash at all. Means one needs two
> bins in the kitchen though. Probably worth doing even if your local
> bin-man doesn't maintain "a recycle for compost" section in his cart.
>
> Personally, I'd be more than happy to burn all combustable waste and
> compost the food etc. The remainder[1] I'd gladly consider returning to
> the damn fools that manufactured it.
>
> Example of one: today I needed a thermocouple for the gas boiler[2] - the
> packaging is more bulky and heavier than the item.
>
> [1] glass and other recyclables excepted
> [2] Why do they always give up in the middle of a cold snap?
> --
> William Tasso
clean air act came along. There was not the packaging we have then, and most
of what ended up in the metal bin was ash, hence the need for a metal bin
when the fire grate would be emptied, glowing ash in the metal pan carried
through the house and down the garden path.
These days the bin lorries have got too big for the streets, especially when
they are blocking the buses with cars parked on either side, I'll say it
again there is no sence of proportion.
--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes
"William Tasso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news
[email protected]...> Huw <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> That's what I like to see - throw all the responsibility onto consumers
> and householders.
>
> I bet I'm not the only one here old enough to remember that a complete
> weeks worth of domestic rubbish from a family household would fit in a
> single dustbin. Oh, but silly me - can't use dustbins any more in case
> the poor dears hurt their backs lifting them .. and then they have to put
> them back - what a chore it must be. Still, I understand there are still
> career opportunities in the burger flipping trade.
>
> Incidently, our local council (bless 'em) seem to have hit on a successful
> tactic. Households are encouraged to place all food waste in small
> plastic bin-boxes (the click-on lid type). Since we've been using this
> system the vermin have not bothered our trash at all. Means one needs two
> bins in the kitchen though. Probably worth doing even if your local
> bin-man doesn't maintain "a recycle for compost" section in his cart.
>
> Personally, I'd be more than happy to burn all combustable waste and
> compost the food etc. The remainder[1] I'd gladly consider returning to
> the damn fools that manufactured it.
>
> Example of one: today I needed a thermocouple for the gas boiler[2] - the
> packaging is more bulky and heavier than the item.
>
> [1] glass and other recyclables excepted
> [2] Why do they always give up in the middle of a cold snap?
> --
> William Tasso
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EMB
Guest
Austin Shackles wrote:
> Now, from what I hear, they have a new manager. The manager tells them
> where they should go, based on what'd been reported. I suppose what I
> should do is to report all manner of things all the time... then we might
> get back to haveing enough blokes on the ground to do the job reaonsably.
> But firing the managers would help.
It's a global problem that has even made it's way to the far end of the
British Empire. I'm still waiting (reported at least 8 times, by 4
different people, since September) for the pothole in our street to be
fixed. It's now of the size where you could lose a small car in it, and
hitting it in a Series is a great way to remove your teeth - yet under
the old system the blokes in the van would have seen and repaired it
before it became a hazard.
And... typing this got me thinking, and google got me the mobile phone
number for the mayor of Auckland - apparently someone will be out to
look at it directly, and a repair is promised *this* year. I've also
forwarded him your post so that he can see it's not just a local problem.
--
EMB
> Now, from what I hear, they have a new manager. The manager tells them
> where they should go, based on what'd been reported. I suppose what I
> should do is to report all manner of things all the time... then we might
> get back to haveing enough blokes on the ground to do the job reaonsably.
> But firing the managers would help.
It's a global problem that has even made it's way to the far end of the
British Empire. I'm still waiting (reported at least 8 times, by 4
different people, since September) for the pothole in our street to be
fixed. It's now of the size where you could lose a small car in it, and
hitting it in a Series is a great way to remove your teeth - yet under
the old system the blokes in the van would have seen and repaired it
before it became a hazard.
And... typing this got me thinking, and google got me the mobile phone
number for the mayor of Auckland - apparently someone will be out to
look at it directly, and a repair is promised *this* year. I've also
forwarded him your post so that he can see it's not just a local problem.
--
EMB
R
Ray
Guest
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:55:19 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Collecting the cost is easy - you and I pay for it. No dosh, no
>>"certificate". And we get to pay for the new managemenet structure, plus
>>a bit for the new council offices and annual dinner & dance.
>
> yeah, but if it's going to be done by weight, they'll have to invoice
> after the event, or add it to the council tax next year, or something
> equally unwieldy.
The way councils work, they will probably charge everyone the maximum - then
you have to prove you generated /less/ rubbish than the max. Then fill out
a form (in triplicate) to humbly apply for your refund.
--
Ray
> On or around Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:55:19 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Collecting the cost is easy - you and I pay for it. No dosh, no
>>"certificate". And we get to pay for the new managemenet structure, plus
>>a bit for the new council offices and annual dinner & dance.
>
> yeah, but if it's going to be done by weight, they'll have to invoice
> after the event, or add it to the council tax next year, or something
> equally unwieldy.
The way councils work, they will probably charge everyone the maximum - then
you have to prove you generated /less/ rubbish than the max. Then fill out
a form (in triplicate) to humbly apply for your refund.
--
Ray
A
Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:53:09 +1300, EMB <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:
>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> Now, from what I hear, they have a new manager. The manager tells them
>> where they should go, based on what'd been reported. I suppose what I
>> should do is to report all manner of things all the time... then we might
>> get back to haveing enough blokes on the ground to do the job reaonsably.
>> But firing the managers would help.
>
>It's a global problem that has even made it's way to the far end of the
>British Empire. I'm still waiting (reported at least 8 times, by 4
>different people, since September) for the pothole in our street to be
>fixed. It's now of the size where you could lose a small car in it, and
>hitting it in a Series is a great way to remove your teeth - yet under
>the old system the blokes in the van would have seen and repaired it
>before it became a hazard.
>
>And... typing this got me thinking, and google got me the mobile phone
>number for the mayor of Auckland - apparently someone will be out to
>look at it directly, and a repair is promised *this* year. I've also
>forwarded him your post so that he can see it's not just a local problem.
tell 'em you'll be putting in a bill for replacement suspension parts...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
George Orwell (1903 - 1950) Animal Farm
enlightened us thusly:
>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> Now, from what I hear, they have a new manager. The manager tells them
>> where they should go, based on what'd been reported. I suppose what I
>> should do is to report all manner of things all the time... then we might
>> get back to haveing enough blokes on the ground to do the job reaonsably.
>> But firing the managers would help.
>
>It's a global problem that has even made it's way to the far end of the
>British Empire. I'm still waiting (reported at least 8 times, by 4
>different people, since September) for the pothole in our street to be
>fixed. It's now of the size where you could lose a small car in it, and
>hitting it in a Series is a great way to remove your teeth - yet under
>the old system the blokes in the van would have seen and repaired it
>before it became a hazard.
>
>And... typing this got me thinking, and google got me the mobile phone
>number for the mayor of Auckland - apparently someone will be out to
>look at it directly, and a repair is promised *this* year. I've also
>forwarded him your post so that he can see it's not just a local problem.
tell 'em you'll be putting in a bill for replacement suspension parts...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
George Orwell (1903 - 1950) Animal Farm
M
Mother
Guest
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:21:48 +0000, Lizzy Taylor
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Ours still does. Newspapers (daily broadsheet), glass (a few
>bottles/jars per fortnight) and cans (not many at all) go for recycling,
>peelings etc go into the worm bin, we buy very little pre-packaged food
>and our wheelie bin usually goes out approximately half-full (or half
>empty). Even though we are not having a collection this week, the bin
>will still take all the rubbish next week. Many of our neighbours
>however will have an overflowing bin and several black bags....
Wheelie bins and 'recycle bins' are a total diversion IMO from the
issue of waste. Like you, we rarely fill our wheelie, but we do waste
far, far too much (and do try to minimise that waste).
A number of years ago I owned a cyber-cafe, one of the first at that
time. We used to pride ourselves that there was no waste to go in the
bin as we recycled everything - and I mean _everything_. This takes
time and a lot of effort though and I guess for the average family,
the waste is encouraged by the convenience lifestyle.
I really don't blame people for waste any more, but the industry of
waste creation.
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Ours still does. Newspapers (daily broadsheet), glass (a few
>bottles/jars per fortnight) and cans (not many at all) go for recycling,
>peelings etc go into the worm bin, we buy very little pre-packaged food
>and our wheelie bin usually goes out approximately half-full (or half
>empty). Even though we are not having a collection this week, the bin
>will still take all the rubbish next week. Many of our neighbours
>however will have an overflowing bin and several black bags....
Wheelie bins and 'recycle bins' are a total diversion IMO from the
issue of waste. Like you, we rarely fill our wheelie, but we do waste
far, far too much (and do try to minimise that waste).
A number of years ago I owned a cyber-cafe, one of the first at that
time. We used to pride ourselves that there was no waste to go in the
bin as we recycled everything - and I mean _everything_. This takes
time and a lot of effort though and I guess for the average family,
the waste is encouraged by the convenience lifestyle.
I really don't blame people for waste any more, but the industry of
waste creation.
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
B
beamendsltd
Guest
In message <[email protected]>
Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:21:48 +0000, Lizzy Taylor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Ours still does. Newspapers (daily broadsheet), glass (a few
> >bottles/jars per fortnight) and cans (not many at all) go for recycling,
> >peelings etc go into the worm bin, we buy very little pre-packaged food
> >and our wheelie bin usually goes out approximately half-full (or half
> >empty). Even though we are not having a collection this week, the bin
> >will still take all the rubbish next week. Many of our neighbours
> >however will have an overflowing bin and several black bags....
>
> Wheelie bins and 'recycle bins' are a total diversion IMO from the
> issue of waste. Like you, we rarely fill our wheelie, but we do waste
> far, far too much (and do try to minimise that waste).
>
> A number of years ago I owned a cyber-cafe, one of the first at that
> time. We used to pride ourselves that there was no waste to go in the
> bin as we recycled everything - and I mean _everything_. This takes
> time and a lot of effort though and I guess for the average family,
> the waste is encouraged by the convenience lifestyle.
>
> I really don't blame people for waste any more, but the industry of
> waste creation.
>
>
And local councils. We had a nice new fridge/freezer for Christmas.
Getting rid of the old one? No problem - the tip is 3/4 mile from home.
Dust Mat Dan comes round to help get it in the 110, and with the Mem
in the car and DMD in his we set off for the tip - a 10 min job?
Get to the tip. Doing the "right thing" I go to the office (you have
to fill in a sheet - address, car reg. and sign to say only one item
per household.
"Oh no, mate, you've got to go to Burslem, this is Staffordshire Moorlands"
(aka the most ignorant council in the world by anyone who has had the
misforune to deal with them).
So 2 vehicles have to go and drive round for an hour to get to the
"right" tip and back, thus negating any polution saving made by the
"safe disposal", and wasting the time of two of us (self-employed,
so working).
Well done local councils:
1. We wasted our time (x2) - why shouldn't we be able to invoice you for
it?
2. Fuel wasted.
3. The majority would simply have gone and dumped the errant machine in
the nearest lay-bye - and they wonder why? Idiots.
4. What would happen in we had seperate fridge and freezer? Could it be
that they would get dumped in the aforementioned lay-bye with the others?
When oh when are councilors going to engauge their brains and jonn the
rest of us in the real world!
Richard
--
Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:21:48 +0000, Lizzy Taylor
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Ours still does. Newspapers (daily broadsheet), glass (a few
> >bottles/jars per fortnight) and cans (not many at all) go for recycling,
> >peelings etc go into the worm bin, we buy very little pre-packaged food
> >and our wheelie bin usually goes out approximately half-full (or half
> >empty). Even though we are not having a collection this week, the bin
> >will still take all the rubbish next week. Many of our neighbours
> >however will have an overflowing bin and several black bags....
>
> Wheelie bins and 'recycle bins' are a total diversion IMO from the
> issue of waste. Like you, we rarely fill our wheelie, but we do waste
> far, far too much (and do try to minimise that waste).
>
> A number of years ago I owned a cyber-cafe, one of the first at that
> time. We used to pride ourselves that there was no waste to go in the
> bin as we recycled everything - and I mean _everything_. This takes
> time and a lot of effort though and I guess for the average family,
> the waste is encouraged by the convenience lifestyle.
>
> I really don't blame people for waste any more, but the industry of
> waste creation.
>
>
And local councils. We had a nice new fridge/freezer for Christmas.
Getting rid of the old one? No problem - the tip is 3/4 mile from home.
Dust Mat Dan comes round to help get it in the 110, and with the Mem
in the car and DMD in his we set off for the tip - a 10 min job?
Get to the tip. Doing the "right thing" I go to the office (you have
to fill in a sheet - address, car reg. and sign to say only one item
per household.
"Oh no, mate, you've got to go to Burslem, this is Staffordshire Moorlands"
(aka the most ignorant council in the world by anyone who has had the
misforune to deal with them).
So 2 vehicles have to go and drive round for an hour to get to the
"right" tip and back, thus negating any polution saving made by the
"safe disposal", and wasting the time of two of us (self-employed,
so working).
Well done local councils:
1. We wasted our time (x2) - why shouldn't we be able to invoice you for
it?
2. Fuel wasted.
3. The majority would simply have gone and dumped the errant machine in
the nearest lay-bye - and they wonder why? Idiots.
4. What would happen in we had seperate fridge and freezer? Could it be
that they would get dumped in the aforementioned lay-bye with the others?
When oh when are councilors going to engauge their brains and jonn the
rest of us in the real world!
Richard
--
I
Ian Rawlings
Guest
On 2006-01-02, beamendsltd <[email protected]> wrote:
> So 2 vehicles have to go and drive round for an hour to get to the
> "right" tip and back, thus negating any polution saving made by the
> "safe disposal", and wasting the time of two of us (self-employed,
> so working).
Where I live, we have a kerbside recycling scheme, but the list of
things it won't pick up is far larger than the list of things that it
will, and includes some quite specific items. If you include an item
that they won't pick up, then they usually just leave the whole lot at
the side of the road.
Particularly annoying things they won't pick up are glass, cardboard,
the "wrong type of plastic", shredded paper and bottle-tops. When
recycling, if someone leaves a bottle-top on a plastic bottle or puts
some plastic in there that the bin-men don't like the look of, they
empty out the recycling bins of the people who have done it right, and
then either leave the wrong bin alone, or put the stuff they can't
recycle into one of the now empty bins then empty the errant bin into
the truck. The end result of that is that recently my bin, which was
originally full of recyclable stuff, came back to me half-full of
someone else's non-recyclable rubbish.
In the nearby town (10 mins drive) there are 4 bottle banks and paper
recycling banks in the tiny tiny town, but the nearest place that will
take cardboard is 30 minute's drive away, making it largely pointless
to recycle cardboard around here. I take my cardboard out there on
occasion as I need to make trips to the more remote town to get pipe
tobacco so it's not so bad for me.
Kerbside recycling is the only viable recycling scheme IMHO as
otherwise you get people burning fuel to get to the recycling centres
so it's particularly galling to see the council mess about so much.
I reckon they should give rough guidance for recycling, take all
recyclable materials including glass and cardboard and also take all
plastics as people know the difference between plastic and other
materials, but not the difference between different types of plastic.
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
> So 2 vehicles have to go and drive round for an hour to get to the
> "right" tip and back, thus negating any polution saving made by the
> "safe disposal", and wasting the time of two of us (self-employed,
> so working).
Where I live, we have a kerbside recycling scheme, but the list of
things it won't pick up is far larger than the list of things that it
will, and includes some quite specific items. If you include an item
that they won't pick up, then they usually just leave the whole lot at
the side of the road.
Particularly annoying things they won't pick up are glass, cardboard,
the "wrong type of plastic", shredded paper and bottle-tops. When
recycling, if someone leaves a bottle-top on a plastic bottle or puts
some plastic in there that the bin-men don't like the look of, they
empty out the recycling bins of the people who have done it right, and
then either leave the wrong bin alone, or put the stuff they can't
recycle into one of the now empty bins then empty the errant bin into
the truck. The end result of that is that recently my bin, which was
originally full of recyclable stuff, came back to me half-full of
someone else's non-recyclable rubbish.
In the nearby town (10 mins drive) there are 4 bottle banks and paper
recycling banks in the tiny tiny town, but the nearest place that will
take cardboard is 30 minute's drive away, making it largely pointless
to recycle cardboard around here. I take my cardboard out there on
occasion as I need to make trips to the more remote town to get pipe
tobacco so it's not so bad for me.
Kerbside recycling is the only viable recycling scheme IMHO as
otherwise you get people burning fuel to get to the recycling centres
so it's particularly galling to see the council mess about so much.
I reckon they should give rough guidance for recycling, take all
recyclable materials including glass and cardboard and also take all
plastics as people know the difference between plastic and other
materials, but not the difference between different types of plastic.
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Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
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Dave Liquorice
Guest
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:26:30 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd wrote:
> And local councils. We had a nice new fridge/freezer for Christmas.
> Getting rid of the old one?
<snip tale of woe>
Doesn't the council offer a "bulky items" collection service? Ours
does, costs a tenner for up to three items.
Didn't the shop you bought the new fridge/freezer offer to take the
old one away when they delivered the new?
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Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail
> And local councils. We had a nice new fridge/freezer for Christmas.
> Getting rid of the old one?
<snip tale of woe>
Doesn't the council offer a "bulky items" collection service? Ours
does, costs a tenner for up to three items.
Didn't the shop you bought the new fridge/freezer offer to take the
old one away when they delivered the new?
--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail
R
Richard Brookman
Guest
....and beamendsltd spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
> When oh when are councilors going to engauge their brains and jonn the
> rest of us in the real world!
>
> Richard
As long as they are in feather-cushioned jobs-for-life, spending your money
on their priorities, never.
--
Rich
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Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)
> When oh when are councilors going to engauge their brains and jonn the
> rest of us in the real world!
>
> Richard
As long as they are in feather-cushioned jobs-for-life, spending your money
on their priorities, never.
--
Rich
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Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)
