300 Tdi oil, still unsure !!

Hi folks,
me again I'm afriad. I posted about engine oil and what to use and the
replies were an eye opener as I never realized the criteria for the correct
oil. I have a good idea now, but cannot find a suitable oil in the shops.
I want to get 10/40 or 5/30 with an API CH4 or CI4 spec or ACEA E3 but
after a few visits to the factors and so on I cannot find a make that covers
them.
Can anyone name an oil that follows the specs.

Tia John H

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"Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
> me again I'm afriad. I posted about engine oil and what to use and the
> replies were an eye opener as I never realized the criteria for the
> correct
> oil. I have a good idea now, but cannot find a suitable oil in the shops.
> I want to get 10/40 or 5/30 with an API CH4 or CI4 spec or ACEA E3 but
> after a few visits to the factors and so on I cannot find a make that
> covers
> them.
> Can anyone name an oil that follows the specs.
>
> Tia John H
>
> --
>
>
> " ..... it is the provenence of knowledge to speak, and it is the
> privelage
> of wisdom to listen"
>
>
I get Carlube Gold Turbo Diesel 15/40 from Morisons, it's cheep and cheerful
so I change it, and the filter every 3000 miles or near enough.

Peter.
300TDi ES Auto Disco.

"Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi folks,
> me again I'm afriad. I posted about engine oil and what to use and the
> replies were an eye opener as I never realized the criteria for the
> correct
> oil. I have a good idea now, but cannot find a suitable oil in the shops.
> I want to get 10/40 or 5/30 with an API CH4 or CI4 spec or ACEA E3 but
> after a few visits to the factors and so on I cannot find a make that
> covers
> them.
> Can anyone name an oil that follows the specs.
> Consumer packs
> Tia John H
> en

Chevron/Texaco Delo 400
Q8 T550 and many others meeting the equally appropriate [for you] mb229.1 or
ACEA B4 from any brand.

No point going on because every oil company and blender will have an
appropriate oil for your need. Consumer packs may omit much of the
specifications off the packs. The easiest appropriate ones you will find are
mb229.1, ACEAB4 but you should easily find an oil with API CH-4 but your
viscosity choice may be limited, mainly to 15w/30 and 15w/40 unless you go
for semi/full synthetic oils which meet even higher standards. The viscosity
of CH-4 and E3 oil is limited because it is meant for heavy duty and severe
duty use, whether that be in cars or heavy plant.
Best places to find oils are motor factors, of which there should be a fair
choice in your area, each one typically stocking several brands.
I use Fuchs Titan HPE in most petrol and diesel engines because it
simplifies my inventory. Any brand which meets equivalent
standards should be, as near as is practical, identical in performance,
although better oils will also meet and exceed lesser standards, if you see
what I mean.

Huw

"Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
> me again I'm afriad. I posted about engine oil and what to use and the
> replies were an eye opener as I never realized the criteria for the
> correct
> oil. I have a good idea now, but cannot find a suitable oil in the shops.
> I want to get 10/40 or 5/30 with an API CH4 or CI4 spec or ACEA E3
> butandards
> after a few visits to the factors and so on I cannot find a make that
> covers
> them.
> Can anyone name an oil that follows the specs.
>
> Tia John H
>

Here is a partial list of major names listing ACEA E3/Mb228.3/ApiCH4 oil. It
is about halfway down the page. This is in no way a comprehensive list and
it concentrates on Mercedes specs. Mercedes actually tend to set standards
that are then adopted by others with their own codes.
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html

Huw

In article <[email protected]>, "Hirsty's"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> me again I'm afriad. I posted about engine oil and what to use and the
> replies were an eye opener as I never realized the criteria for the correct
> oil. I have a good idea now, but cannot find a suitable oil in the shops.
> I want to get 10/40 or 5/30 with an API CH4 or CI4 spec or ACEA E3 but
> after a few visits to the factors and so on I cannot find a make that covers
> them.
> Can anyone name an oil that follows the specs.
>
> Tia John H


G'day John...

I use Shell Rimula X 15w-40 in my '97 Defender TDi300 since new, and I've
used it in a Toyota HJ45 for nearly thirty years. It seems an _excellent_
oil and I note that Huw's reference has Mercedes listing this as one of
its recommendations. ( interesting site, Huw, Thanks for that!!). The
'rocker boxes' are always very clean and both vehicles run excellently. In
fact the old 3.6lt nat. aspirated HJ45 gets close to the same fuel usage
as the Defender... both around ( av.)10lts/100kms.... and the HJ45 has
several hundred K's ( on this rebuild) !!! The TDi300 runs like a tuned
sewing machine !! ) ........ So I stick with what I've found to be
good!! ) . I change the engine oils in both vehicles every 5000K's.

Somewhere, way back, I read where Rimula X is one of the most "highly
detergent" oils, viz. it will hold its 'load' for the filter and up to the
next oil change whereas some 'lesser' oils deposit a 'sludge'.

Down here in Oz there is a freecall to Shell where you can discuss this
topic with a technical adviser which I found to be an excellent 'from the
source' . I guess you have similar in your part of the world, too.

Best to buy it in 20lt drums as the packaging of the plastic 4/5lts adds a
lot to the price. I pay around Oz$100 for a 20 lts drum , currently.

Hope this was helpful to your thoughts on the TDi300 engine oil.

..... frodo.

In message <[email protected]>
"Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> me again I'm afriad. I posted about engine oil and what to use and the
> replies were an eye opener as I never realized the criteria for the correct
> oil. I have a good idea now, but cannot find a suitable oil in the shops.
> I want to get 10/40 or 5/30 with an API CH4 or CI4 spec or ACEA E3 but
> after a few visits to the factors and so on I cannot find a make that covers
> them.
> Can anyone name an oil that follows the specs.
>

Morris Oils 10w/40 Ring Free is just the job, or 20w/50
Ring Free for higher milage engines. Should be around
7.99 and 8.99 respectively from a good motor spares place.

Ricjard


> Tia John H
>
> --
>
>
> " ..... it is the provenence of knowledge to speak, and it is the privelage
> of wisdom to listen"
>
>

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"frodo" <[email protected]> wrote >
> G'day John...
>
> I use Shell Rimula X 15w-40 in my '97 Defender TDi300 since new, and I've
> used it in a Toyota HJ45 for nearly thirty years. It seems an _excellent_
> oil and I note that Huw's reference has Mercedes listing this as one of
> its recommendations. ( interesting site, Huw, Thanks for that!!). The
> 'rocker boxes' are always very clean and both vehicles run excellently. In
> fact the old 3.6lt nat. aspirated HJ45 gets close to the same fuel usage
> as the Defender... both around ( av.)10lts/100kms.... and the HJ45 has
> several hundred K's ( on this rebuild) !!! The TDi300 runs like a tuned
> sewing machine !! ) ........ So I stick with what I've found to be
> good!! ) . I change the engine oils in both vehicles every 5000K's.
>
> Somewhere, way back, I read where Rimula X is one of the most "highly
> detergent" oils, viz. it will hold its 'load' for the filter and up to the
> next oil change whereas some 'lesser' oils deposit a 'sludge'.

The important thing is that it holds a massive load of particles that are
actually too small to be trapped in the filter. Lesser oils will let these
particles clump together and sink to produce sludge. It does this over an
extended period with a high load. It also stays in grade longer under
extreme duty in turbo engines while protecting the engine from wear and bore
polishing over extended drain intervals and over a long engine life.

It is important to note that the Rimula X you use today is not the same as
you used years ago. Oils are continually reformulated. I remember when
Rimula X and Myrina oils only met CCMC D5/ACEA E2 which is nothing special
today but was state of the art then. Today Rimula X is a mid performance
long drain oil where such oils are normal.

>
> Down here in Oz there is a freecall to Shell where you can discuss this
> topic with a technical adviser which I found to be an excellent 'from the
> source' . I guess you have similar in your part of the world, too.
>
> Best to buy it in 20lt drums as the packaging of the plastic 4/5lts adds a
> lot to the price. I pay around Oz$100 for a 20 lts drum , currently.
>

I agree. The best place to find drums of oil at a reasonable price is at
agricultural tractor dealers, truck dealers and general motor factors.

Huw

Thanks again all who posted, I finally found what I'm after in a little
factor nearby. Miller XFE which has CH4 spec and the rest. £ 15.99 5liters