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200 tdi engine
Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a bloody
huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.
Failing that, whats a head etc worth?


 
On Friday 12 August 2005 20:25, jOn([email protected]) wrote in message
<[email protected]>

> 200 tdi engine
> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a
> bloody huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.
> Failing that, whats a head etc worth?

What!? Can't it be relined with a wet/dry liner?
FFS, is this a working engine or a poncy flounceabout engine!

I heard a vague rumour that an old 2.25 petrol engine block is the same as a
more modern 200tdi/300tdi/TD5 block. Is it true?
I know someone who went into a local Land Rover dealership and asked for a
head gasket for his 2.25 petrol engined S2A and they gave him a head gasket
which they also fit to the 300tdi (or was it the TD5) so gasket-wise they
are so similar as to be the same.

If none of the above is true[1] then I'd try visiting your local engine
specialists. If you're near Lancaster (Lancashire, UK) I know of a place
which is good for that sort of thing. They did a very good job with a
friend's 80" S1 engine - runs like a good'n!

[1] and it might not be after 3/5 of a bottle of luverly red wine.

--
2001 FZS600 - Silver/Black
1974 SIII Land Rover - Hardtop 2.25 Petrol, Green
1954 Ford 100E Prefect - Black
 

"PDannyD" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> On Friday 12 August 2005 20:25, jOn([email protected]) wrote in
> message
> <[email protected]>
>
>> 200 tdi engine
>> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a
>> bloody huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.
>> Failing that, whats a head etc worth?
>
> What!? Can't it be relined with a wet/dry liner?
> FFS, is this a working engine or a poncy flounceabout engine!
>
> I heard a vague rumour that an old 2.25 petrol engine block is the same as
> a
> more modern 200tdi/300tdi/TD5 block. Is it true?
> I know someone who went into a local Land Rover dealership and asked for a
> head gasket for his 2.25 petrol engined S2A and they gave him a head
> gasket
> which they also fit to the 300tdi (or was it the TD5) so gasket-wise they
> are so similar as to be the same.
>
> If none of the above is true[1] then I'd try visiting your local engine
> specialists. If you're near Lancaster (Lancashire, UK) I know of a place
> which is good for that sort of thing. They did a very good job with a
> friend's 80" S1 engine - runs like a good'n!
>
> [1] and it might not be after 3/5 of a bottle of luverly red wine.

I know the crank is the same as my naD but other than that I dont know


 

"jOn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "PDannyD" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
>> On Friday 12 August 2005 20:25, jOn([email protected]) wrote in
>> message
>> <[email protected]>
>>
>>> 200 tdi engine
>>> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a
>>> bloody huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.
>>> Failing that, whats a head etc worth?
>>
>> What!? Can't it be relined with a wet/dry liner?
>> FFS, is this a working engine or a poncy flounceabout engine!
>>
>> I heard a vague rumour that an old 2.25 petrol engine block is the same
>> as a
>> more modern 200tdi/300tdi/TD5 block. Is it true?
>> I know someone who went into a local Land Rover dealership and asked for
>> a
>> head gasket for his 2.25 petrol engined S2A and they gave him a head
>> gasket
>> which they also fit to the 300tdi (or was it the TD5) so gasket-wise they
>> are so similar as to be the same.
>>
>> If none of the above is true[1] then I'd try visiting your local engine
>> specialists. If you're near Lancaster (Lancashire, UK) I know of a place
>> which is good for that sort of thing. They did a very good job with a
>> friend's 80" S1 engine - runs like a good'n!
>>
>> [1] and it might not be after 3/5 of a bottle of luverly red wine.
>
> I know the crank is the same as my naD but other than that I dont know

Block is different, 2 oil return passages cast on the outside of the cam
chest area at the top for starters. Hence the head gasket must be different
as well. TD5 has 5 cylinders, so no interchangeable blocks or gaskets there,
then! I think your red wine must be pretty potent.....
Hang on, I'm seeing double now.... oh, no I'm not, it's an Iceberg engine!
;-)
Badger.


 
On Friday 12 August 2005 22:06, Badger([email protected]) wrote in
message <[email protected]>

>
> "jOn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "PDannyD" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> message news:[email protected]...
>>> On Friday 12 August 2005 20:25, jOn([email protected]) wrote in
>>> message
>>> <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> 200 tdi engine
>>>> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a
>>>> bloody huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.
>>>> Failing that, whats a head etc worth?
>>>
>>> What!? Can't it be relined with a wet/dry liner?
>>> FFS, is this a working engine or a poncy flounceabout engine!
>>>
>>> I heard a vague rumour that an old 2.25 petrol engine block is the same
>>> as a
>>> more modern 200tdi/300tdi/TD5 block. Is it true?
>>> I know someone who went into a local Land Rover dealership and asked for
>>> a
>>> head gasket for his 2.25 petrol engined S2A and they gave him a head
>>> gasket
>>> which they also fit to the 300tdi (or was it the TD5) so gasket-wise
>>> they are so similar as to be the same.
>>>
>>> If none of the above is true[1] then I'd try visiting your local engine
>>> specialists. If you're near Lancaster (Lancashire, UK) I know of a place
>>> which is good for that sort of thing. They did a very good job with a
>>> friend's 80" S1 engine - runs like a good'n!
>>>
>>> [1] and it might not be after 3/5 of a bottle of luverly red wine.
>>
>> I know the crank is the same as my naD but other than that I dont know
>
> Block is different, 2 oil return passages cast on the outside of the cam
> chest area at the top for starters. Hence the head gasket must be
> different as well. TD5 has 5 cylinders, so no interchangeable blocks or
> gaskets there, then! I think your red wine must be pretty potent.....
> Hang on, I'm seeing double now.... oh, no I'm not, it's an Iceberg engine!
> ;-)

What do you mean, "potent"? It's only 13%. You trying to say summat or what?
<big smiley, just in case a normal one is missed>
COOoooor! This Blossom Hill red is better than Lemsip. I haven't coughed
once since the first glass. Did I forget to mention that I have oneheluva
head cold?

Hang on! My glass is over *there* so HTF did some wine manage to splash
across onto my keyboard which is over *here*? It's just not physically
possible!

Anyway, perhaps they meant the 200/300tdi gaskets can be used with a 2.25
petrol engine but not the other way round. I shall investigate when sober
and un-ill.

--
2001 FZS600 - Silver/Black
1974 SIII Land Rover - Hardtop 2.25 Petrol, Green
1954 Ford 100E Prefect - Black
 
jOn wrote:
> 200 tdi engine
> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a bloody
> huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.
> Failing that, whats a head etc worth?
>
>

A 200 TDi can be rebored +0.040" (1mm over size) ! Grooves 0.5 mm deep
are enormous. Get a proper second opinion Jon.

Steve
 

"steve Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> jOn wrote:
>> 200 tdi engine
>> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a
>> bloody
>> huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.
>> Failing that, whats a head etc worth?
>>
>>
>
> A 200 TDi can be rebored +0.040" (1mm over size) ! Grooves 0.5 mm deep
> are enormous. Get a proper second opinion Jon.
>
> Steve
3 cylinders are not so bad where as the other has the biggest groove I've
ever seen it died of loads of crankcase pressure, and h gasket was ok.


 
jOn wrote:

> 3 cylinders are not so bad where as the other has the biggest groove I've
> ever seen it died of loads of crankcase pressure, and h gasket was ok.

See if you can get it rebored on a no-win no-fee basis ! I think these
scratches look worse than they are quite often.

The guys who redid mine in Bury, Lancs., only charge me 85 quid.

Steve
 
In news:[email protected],
steve Taylor <[email protected]> blithered:
> jOn wrote:
>> 200 tdi engine
>> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a
>> bloody huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.
>> Failing that, whats a head etc worth?
>>
>>
>
> A 200 TDi can be rebored +0.040" (1mm over size) ! Grooves 0.5 mm deep
> are enormous. Get a proper second opinion Jon.
>
> Steve

But that puts it on the limit! your 40"' is diameter while the 0.5mm groove depth
is radius.

--
"He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt her doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
On or around Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:58:45 +0100, "GbH"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>In news:[email protected],
>steve Taylor <[email protected]> blithered:
>> jOn wrote:
>>> 200 tdi engine
>>> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a
>>> bloody huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.
>>> Failing that, whats a head etc worth?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A 200 TDi can be rebored +0.040" (1mm over size) ! Grooves 0.5 mm deep
>> are enormous. Get a proper second opinion Jon.
>>
>> Steve
>
>But that puts it on the limit! your 40"' is diameter while the 0.5mm groove depth
>is radius.

yebbut, he didn't say he had 0.5mm grooves. Steve was, I think, implying
that to get 0.5mm grooves would be very unlikely, and thus 'most any grooves
would be fixable by a rebore.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
In news:[email protected],
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> blithered:
> On or around Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:58:45 +0100, "GbH"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> In news:[email protected],
>> steve Taylor <[email protected]> blithered:
>>> jOn wrote:
>>>> 200 tdi engine
>>>> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn
>>>> a bloody huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond
>>>> repair. Failing that, whats a head etc worth?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> A 200 TDi can be rebored +0.040" (1mm over size) ! Grooves 0.5 mm
>>> deep are enormous. Get a proper second opinion Jon.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
>> But that puts it on the limit! your 40"' is diameter while the 0.5mm
>> groove depth is radius.
>
> yebbut, he didn't say he had 0.5mm grooves. Steve was, I think,
> implying that to get 0.5mm grooves would be very unlikely, and thus
> 'most any grooves would be fixable by a rebore.

Agreed.

--
"He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt her doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
jOn wrote:
> "PDannyD" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
>> On Friday 12 August 2005 20:25, jOn([email protected]) wrote in
>> message
>> <[email protected]>
>>
>>> 200 tdi engine
>>> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a
>>> bloody huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond
>>> repair. Failing that, whats a head etc worth?
>>
>> What!? Can't it be relined with a wet/dry liner?
>> FFS, is this a working engine or a poncy flounceabout engine!
>>
>> I heard a vague rumour that an old 2.25 petrol engine block is the
>> same as a
>> more modern 200tdi/300tdi/TD5 block. Is it true?
>> I know someone who went into a local Land Rover dealership and asked
>> for a head gasket for his 2.25 petrol engined S2A and they gave him
>> a head gasket
>> which they also fit to the 300tdi (or was it the TD5) so gasket-wise
>> they are so similar as to be the same.
>>
>> If none of the above is true[1] then I'd try visiting your local
>> engine specialists. If you're near Lancaster (Lancashire, UK) I know
>> of a place which is good for that sort of thing. They did a very
>> good job with a friend's 80" S1 engine - runs like a good'n!
>>
>> [1] and it might not be after 3/5 of a bottle of luverly red wine.
>
> I know the crank is the same as my naD but other than that I dont know

Can't be same as a TD5, the TD5 has 5 cylinders!!

Nige
--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"


 
On 2005-08-12, jOn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 200 tdi engine
> Is it possible to get another block? as the piston rings have worn a bloody
> huge groove in the bore, and I've been told its beyond repair.

Worth a second opinion at that price. Are you anywhere near Turner
Engineering? They really know their stuff.

-- Pete
 
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