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TOM
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Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
quarter
quarter
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Paul - xxx
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TOM vaguely muttered something like ...
> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
> quarter
Get a different engine ..
High lift cams and harder valves / springs are supposed to do some good,
better breathing and gas-flowing the head also do some good. A decent
service of _all_ electrical components and fixing / upgrading them work well
too ... especially earth straps, fitting electronic ignition etc
Trouble is, it's now an old engine and 'performance' bits are like Hens
Teeth ..
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> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
> quarter
Get a different engine ..
High lift cams and harder valves / springs are supposed to do some good,
better breathing and gas-flowing the head also do some good. A decent
service of _all_ electrical components and fixing / upgrading them work well
too ... especially earth straps, fitting electronic ignition etc
Trouble is, it's now an old engine and 'performance' bits are like Hens
Teeth ..
--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules !!!
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."
R
Raoul Donschachner
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TOM <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
> quarter
Got to Automative Components
http://www.automotivecomp.com/
and there you will find everything you need.
Raoul
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> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
> quarter
Got to Automative Components
http://www.automotivecomp.com/
and there you will find everything you need.
Raoul
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Tom Woods
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:41:19 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>TOM vaguely muttered something like ...
>> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
>> quarter
>
>Get a different engine ..
>High lift cams and harder valves / springs are supposed to do some good,
>better breathing and gas-flowing the head also do some good. A decent
>service of _all_ electrical components and fixing / upgrading them work well
>too ... especially earth straps, fitting electronic ignition etc
>
>Trouble is, it's now an old engine and 'performance' bits are like Hens
>Teeth ..
Not really hens teeth!. Bits for LR engines seem very easy to get hold
of! They do tend to be slightly pricey though.
there are a few places that seem to do lots of 'performance' bits for
the 2.25. Check out the adverts in the landy mags
One of them, is automotive
(http://www.automotivecomp.com/landrover.html)
In my experience, and judging by what my mates have done, the easiest
ways to speed up a 2.25 are:
Get rid of the oil bath filter and stick something like a K&N on
Change the exhaust. Either get something a bit bigger or just changing
the backbox for something sportier makes a bit of difference.
After this you get to engine modifications like gas flowed heads, and
cam changes.
You can also get things like different manifolds to suit different
carbs. One of my mates also bought a 2.8 block (or somthing similar)
for his. Doesnt half shift now!
<[email protected]> wrote:
>TOM vaguely muttered something like ...
>> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
>> quarter
>
>Get a different engine ..
>High lift cams and harder valves / springs are supposed to do some good,
>better breathing and gas-flowing the head also do some good. A decent
>service of _all_ electrical components and fixing / upgrading them work well
>too ... especially earth straps, fitting electronic ignition etc
>
>Trouble is, it's now an old engine and 'performance' bits are like Hens
>Teeth ..
Not really hens teeth!. Bits for LR engines seem very easy to get hold
of! They do tend to be slightly pricey though.
there are a few places that seem to do lots of 'performance' bits for
the 2.25. Check out the adverts in the landy mags
One of them, is automotive
(http://www.automotivecomp.com/landrover.html)
In my experience, and judging by what my mates have done, the easiest
ways to speed up a 2.25 are:
Get rid of the oil bath filter and stick something like a K&N on
Change the exhaust. Either get something a bit bigger or just changing
the backbox for something sportier makes a bit of difference.
After this you get to engine modifications like gas flowed heads, and
cam changes.
You can also get things like different manifolds to suit different
carbs. One of my mates also bought a 2.8 block (or somthing similar)
for his. Doesnt half shift now!
A
Alex
Guest
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:15:32 GMT, "TOM" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
>quarter
>
Fit a high-compression (9.1) , flowed head. Change the cam. Fit SU
manifold/carb. Flowed exhaust manifold.
If it's a 5bearing crank, then you can fit a longer throw crank to
take it up to 2.5.
Probably easier and cheaper to fit a better engine to start with.
Alex
wrote:
>Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
>quarter
>
Fit a high-compression (9.1) , flowed head. Change the cam. Fit SU
manifold/carb. Flowed exhaust manifold.
If it's a 5bearing crank, then you can fit a longer throw crank to
take it up to 2.5.
Probably easier and cheaper to fit a better engine to start with.
Alex
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David G. Bell
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On Monday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Tom Woods" wrote:
> In my experience, and judging by what my mates have done, the easiest
> ways to speed up a 2.25 are:
>
> Get rid of the oil bath filter and stick something like a K&N on
> Change the exhaust. Either get something a bit bigger or just changing
> the backbox for something sportier makes a bit of difference.
>
> After this you get to engine modifications like gas flowed heads, and
> cam changes.
My understanding is that the oil bath filter is pretty free-breathing,
and you need to be altering the rest of the intake path to justify
changing it.
It wouldn't surprise me if a different exhaust manifold would pay off,
in the same way as the LCB-type on the Mini engine did.
It would be easy to fix one choke point, and not gain very much because
of another. These things tend to be done as packages.
--
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"History shows that the Singularity started when Sir Tim Berners-Lee
was bitten by a radioactive spider."
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Tom Woods" wrote:
> In my experience, and judging by what my mates have done, the easiest
> ways to speed up a 2.25 are:
>
> Get rid of the oil bath filter and stick something like a K&N on
> Change the exhaust. Either get something a bit bigger or just changing
> the backbox for something sportier makes a bit of difference.
>
> After this you get to engine modifications like gas flowed heads, and
> cam changes.
My understanding is that the oil bath filter is pretty free-breathing,
and you need to be altering the rest of the intake path to justify
changing it.
It wouldn't surprise me if a different exhaust manifold would pay off,
in the same way as the LCB-type on the Mini engine did.
It would be easy to fix one choke point, and not gain very much because
of another. These things tend to be done as packages.
--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.
"History shows that the Singularity started when Sir Tim Berners-Lee
was bitten by a radioactive spider."
P
Paul - xxx
Guest
Tom Woods vaguely muttered something like ...
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:41:19 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> TOM vaguely muttered something like ...
>>> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and
>>> a quarter
>>
>> Get a different engine ..
>
>
>
>> High lift cams and harder valves / springs are supposed to do some good,
>> better breathing and gas-flowing the head also do some good. A decent
>> service of _all_ electrical components and fixing / upgrading them work
>> well too ... especially earth straps, fitting electronic ignition etc
>>
>> Trouble is, it's now an old engine and 'performance' bits are like Hens
>> Teeth ..
>
> Not really hens teeth!. Bits for LR engines seem very easy to get hold
> of! They do tend to be slightly pricey though.
Heheheh, you're right. When I looked, a couple of years ago it has to be
said, there seemed like only one or two 'bits' to choose from. I mightn't
have looked very hard mind ..
> Get rid of the oil bath filter and stick something like a K&N on
> Change the exhaust. Either get something a bit bigger or just changing
> the backbox for something sportier makes a bit of difference.
Totally agree, breathing makes a hell of a difference, and is best done as a
whole. Though even changing just the air filters and carb jet sizes can
help a lot ..
> carbs. One of my mates also bought a 2.8 block (or somthing similar)
> for his. Doesnt half shift now!
Heheheh ..
--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules !!!
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:41:19 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> TOM vaguely muttered something like ...
>>> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and
>>> a quarter
>>
>> Get a different engine ..
>
>
>
>> High lift cams and harder valves / springs are supposed to do some good,
>> better breathing and gas-flowing the head also do some good. A decent
>> service of _all_ electrical components and fixing / upgrading them work
>> well too ... especially earth straps, fitting electronic ignition etc
>>
>> Trouble is, it's now an old engine and 'performance' bits are like Hens
>> Teeth ..
>
> Not really hens teeth!. Bits for LR engines seem very easy to get hold
> of! They do tend to be slightly pricey though.
Heheheh, you're right. When I looked, a couple of years ago it has to be
said, there seemed like only one or two 'bits' to choose from. I mightn't
have looked very hard mind ..
> Get rid of the oil bath filter and stick something like a K&N on
> Change the exhaust. Either get something a bit bigger or just changing
> the backbox for something sportier makes a bit of difference.
Totally agree, breathing makes a hell of a difference, and is best done as a
whole. Though even changing just the air filters and carb jet sizes can
help a lot ..
> carbs. One of my mates also bought a 2.8 block (or somthing similar)
> for his. Doesnt half shift now!
Heheheh ..
--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules !!!
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."
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EMB
Guest
David G. Bell wrote:
> It wouldn't surprise me if a different exhaust manifold would pay off,
> in the same way as the LCB-type on the Mini engine did.
Binning the exhaust manifold and going for a header works wonders. Not
only can it breathe better but you lose the power robbing "hot spot" on
the inlet manifold.
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EMB
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> It wouldn't surprise me if a different exhaust manifold would pay off,
> in the same way as the LCB-type on the Mini engine did.
Binning the exhaust manifold and going for a header works wonders. Not
only can it breathe better but you lose the power robbing "hot spot" on
the inlet manifold.
--
EMB
change two to the number to reply
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Lee_D
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"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:15:32 GMT, "TOM" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
>>quarter
>>
>
> Fit a high-compression (9.1) , flowed head. Change the cam. Fit SU
> manifold/carb. Flowed exhaust manifold.
>
> If it's a 5bearing crank, then you can fit a longer throw crank to
> take it up to 2.5.
>
> Probably easier and cheaper to fit a better engine to start with.
>
> Alex
£50... well then theres the other stuff....
Similar weight, similar petrol consumption.
http://www.lrproject.com/percy/index.html
Lee D
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news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:15:32 GMT, "TOM" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two and a
>>quarter
>>
>
> Fit a high-compression (9.1) , flowed head. Change the cam. Fit SU
> manifold/carb. Flowed exhaust manifold.
>
> If it's a 5bearing crank, then you can fit a longer throw crank to
> take it up to 2.5.
>
> Probably easier and cheaper to fit a better engine to start with.
>
> Alex
£50... well then theres the other stuff....
Similar weight, similar petrol consumption.
http://www.lrproject.com/percy/index.html
Lee D
--
www.lrproject.com
Workshop photos from Landrover repairs
& other such tinkerings.
Home of Percy the Jag powered Landrover
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GbH
Guest
In news:[email protected],
Lee_D <[email protected]> blithered:
> "Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:15:32 GMT, "TOM" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two
>>> and a quarter
>>>
>>
>> Fit a high-compression (9.1) , flowed head. Change the cam. Fit SU
>> manifold/carb. Flowed exhaust manifold.
>>
>> If it's a 5bearing crank, then you can fit a longer throw crank to
>> take it up to 2.5.
>>
>> Probably easier and cheaper to fit a better engine to start with.
>>
>> Alex
>
>
>
> £50... well then theres the other stuff....
>
> Similar weight, similar petrol consumption.
>
> http://www.lrproject.com/percy/index.html
>
But you were trying to mutate base metal into gold!
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maybe skydiving's not for you!
Lee_D <[email protected]> blithered:
> "Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:15:32 GMT, "TOM" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone got any ideas on how to get horsepower and torque from a two
>>> and a quarter
>>>
>>
>> Fit a high-compression (9.1) , flowed head. Change the cam. Fit SU
>> manifold/carb. Flowed exhaust manifold.
>>
>> If it's a 5bearing crank, then you can fit a longer throw crank to
>> take it up to 2.5.
>>
>> Probably easier and cheaper to fit a better engine to start with.
>>
>> Alex
>
>
>
> £50... well then theres the other stuff....
>
> Similar weight, similar petrol consumption.
>
> http://www.lrproject.com/percy/index.html
>
But you were trying to mutate base metal into gold!
--
UR SHGb02+14 &ICMFP
If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!
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Larry
Guest
Get a copy of the Lambretta Tuning and performance manual
(sorry couldn't resist that whilst the subject of hens teeth and there
rarity was in the offing)
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Series 3 rust and holes
"Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Get a different engine ..
>
> High lift cams and harder valves / springs are supposed to do some good,
> better breathing and gas-flowing the head also do some good. A decent
> service of _all_ electrical components and fixing / upgrading them work
well
> too ... especially earth straps, fitting electronic ignition etc
>
> Trouble is, it's now an old engine and 'performance' bits are like Hens
> Teeth ..
>
>
> --
> Paul ...
>
> (8(|) Homer Rules !!!
>
> "A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."
>
>
(sorry couldn't resist that whilst the subject of hens teeth and there
rarity was in the offing)
--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes
"Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Get a different engine ..
>
> High lift cams and harder valves / springs are supposed to do some good,
> better breathing and gas-flowing the head also do some good. A decent
> service of _all_ electrical components and fixing / upgrading them work
well
> too ... especially earth straps, fitting electronic ignition etc
>
> Trouble is, it's now an old engine and 'performance' bits are like Hens
> Teeth ..
>
>
> --
> Paul ...
>
> (8(|) Homer Rules !!!
>
> "A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."
>
>
