101 Eberspacher troubles

Eventually managed to get the thing working today on heat setting.
Have repiped all the fuel lines, as the old ones were more leaky than
a sieve!

However, I switch it on, everything runs, fuel is delivered and it
ignites and begins to heat up, for 2-3 minutes, then it cuts out.
Switch it off, leave it 10 minutes and it does the same thing. Worked
through troubleshooting and came to the conclusion that the
temperature probe must be sticking as this seems to tell the
controller it has lit. My thoughts were that if it sticks, the
control box thinks it hasn't lit and shuts it down to prevent any
explosion etc.

Disconnected the temperature probe and began unscrewing to see if a
clean would cure it, when it literally fell apart.......

Any ideas where I can get a new one. Have so far found 1 place on
t'internet that sells spares, rthursby.co.uk and they want nearly
£100.

The bit that is bust is the probe at the opposite end to the
combustion chamber.
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Simon Isaacs

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Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

So I wasnt the only person messing with eberspachers today?

I got mine working and got so hot working out in the ambi today that i
had to take my coat off

I initially thought that i was going to have to post about mine
shutting off - as the first couple of times i got it started it cut
out after about 10 minutes - I traced this to a flat battery though.

Mine didnt cut off fully all at once - The pumps would generally stop
- either suddenly or gradually. The fan would keep working though.
Turn it all off and it would work again in 10 minutes (after the
battery had presumably recovered a bit)

Is yours cutting off totally all of a sudden?

There is also the thermostat in the back which can turn the heater off
(I currently have mine removed and just have the wires joined)

I found today that i could do with a new spark plug for mine (i
presume it is a spark plug?). Which i think explains why it takes ages
to start getting hot sometimes (i counted 3 minutes thismorning)

There is a coily bit that runs down around the centre bit of it and
that had rusted away and was just tangled up in the end of the plug
when i removed it to try and clean it.

You see the odd ambi eber on ebay.

Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> So I wasnt the only person messing with eberspachers today?
>
> I got mine working and got so hot working out in the ambi today that i
> had to take my coat off
>
> I initially thought that i was going to have to post about mine
> shutting off - as the first couple of times i got it started it cut
> out after about 10 minutes - I traced this to a flat battery though.
>
> Mine didnt cut off fully all at once - The pumps would generally stop
> - either suddenly or gradually. The fan would keep working though.
> Turn it all off and it would work again in 10 minutes (after the
> battery had presumably recovered a bit)
>
> Is yours cutting off totally all of a sudden?
>
> There is also the thermostat in the back which can turn the heater off
> (I currently have mine removed and just have the wires joined)
>
> I found today that i could do with a new spark plug for mine (i
> presume it is a spark plug?). Which i think explains why it takes ages
> to start getting hot sometimes (i counted 3 minutes thismorning)
>
> There is a coily bit that runs down around the centre bit of it and
> that had rusted away and was just tangled up in the end of the plug
> when i removed it to try and clean it.
>
> You see the odd ambi eber on ebay.

Right then, Morphs Eber started blowing cold all by it's self (without the
switch on) whats that all about then?

Er... and I also been suffering from failure to stay lit, but I've been
messing around doing the heads recently so I've got to check the pump wiring
as thats first suspect.

Well charged up batteries are a must for Eber tinkering. And Tom's plan to
join the thermo wires also eliminates another potential problem in the
making.

Who found a Eber geezer on eber ebay selling bit's? Wonder if he has a probe
your after. Failing that Al may have a defunct Eber tucked away in his
garage... got about everything else in there.

Lee

">> I found today that i could do with a new spark plug for mine (i
>> presume it is a spark plug?). Which i think explains why it takes ages
>> to start getting hot sometimes (i counted 3 minutes thismorning)
>>
>> There is a coily bit that runs down around the centre bit of it and
>> that had rusted away and was just tangled up in the end of the plug
>> when i removed it to try and clean it.
>>
It's not a spark plug, its a glow plug, and the coily bit is the conductor.
If this is broken then the plug is dead.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:04:13 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>">> I found today that i could do with a new spark plug for mine (i
>>> presume it is a spark plug?). Which i think explains why it takes ages
>>> to start getting hot sometimes (i counted 3 minutes thismorning)
>>>
>>> There is a coily bit that runs down around the centre bit of it and
>>> that had rusted away and was just tangled up in the end of the plug
>>> when i removed it to try and clean it.
>>>
>It's not a spark plug, its a glow plug, and the coily bit is the conductor.
>If this is broken then the plug is dead.

Thanks. I wasnt convinced it was a spark plug - but it had more wires
than i thought a glow plug should and one of them looked a bit like a
mini HT lead!

Is this glow plug only used to start the heater? It takes 2-3 mins to
start from cold (I was told 1 min was normal) and the exhaust belches
out a lot of smoke when started.

>>">> I found today that i could do with a new spark plug for mine (i
>>>> presume it is a spark plug?). Which i think explains why it takes ages
>>>> to start getting hot sometimes (i counted 3 minutes thismorning)
>>>>
>>>> There is a coily bit that runs down around the centre bit of it and
>>>> that had rusted away and was just tangled up in the end of the plug
>>>> when i removed it to try and clean it.
>>>>
>>It's not a spark plug, its a glow plug, and the coily bit is the
>>conductor.
>>If this is broken then the plug is dead.
>
> Thanks. I wasnt convinced it was a spark plug - but it had more wires
> than i thought a glow plug should and one of them looked a bit like a
> mini HT lead!
>
> Is this glow plug only used to start the heater? It takes 2-3 mins to
> start from cold (I was told 1 min was normal) and the exhaust belches
> out a lot of smoke when started.

Yes, once it has started the flame keeps it glowing, and ignites the fuel.

It should start in less than a minute, try it with a new plug and see if it
improves things.

"SimonJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes, once it has started the flame keeps it glowing, and ignites the fuel.
>
> It should start in less than a minute, try it with a new plug and see if
> it improves things.

Mine usually fires up within the minute.... but are we sure it's a glow
plug? This is Petrol Ebershapachers we are talking about and not diesel
ones. Looks pretty sparkplugish to me...

The manual lists both , "glow plug" and "glow spark plug" depending on which
heater you have. The 101 ones are petrol which along with the "ignition
coil" tends to point towards the "glow spark plug". Still not 100% clear but
getting there. If any one doesn't have the manuals I can wang them over.

Lee D

"Simon Isaacs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Eventually managed to get the thing working today on heat setting.
> Have repiped all the fuel lines, as the old ones were more leaky than
> a sieve!


Emailed your sim on i address with the trouble shooting guide.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:22:19 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> scribbled the following
nonsense:

>"Simon Isaacs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news[email protected]...
>> Eventually managed to get the thing working today on heat setting.
>> Have repiped all the fuel lines, as the old ones were more leaky than
>> a sieve!
>
>
>Emailed your sim on i address with the trouble shooting guide.
>

thanks
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Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:18:25 +0000, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>So I wasnt the only person messing with eberspachers today?
>
>I got mine working and got so hot working out in the ambi today that i
>had to take my coat off
>
>I initially thought that i was going to have to post about mine
>shutting off - as the first couple of times i got it started it cut
>out after about 10 minutes - I traced this to a flat battery though.
>
>Mine didnt cut off fully all at once - The pumps would generally stop
>- either suddenly or gradually. The fan would keep working though.
>Turn it all off and it would work again in 10 minutes (after the
>battery had presumably recovered a bit)
>
>Is yours cutting off totally all of a sudden?

yes, everything stops after 2ish minutes, pump, fan the lot

>There is also the thermostat in the back which can turn the heater off
>(I currently have mine removed and just have the wires joined)

Have done the same, especially as the thermostat is missing!

>I found today that i could do with a new spark plug for mine (i
>presume it is a spark plug?). Which i think explains why it takes ages
>to start getting hot sometimes (i counted 3 minutes thismorning)

They're about £50 from the rthursby chap I found....

>
>There is a coily bit that runs down around the centre bit of it and
>that had rusted away and was just tangled up in the end of the plug
>when i removed it to try and clean it.
>
>You see the odd ambi eber on ebay.


--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

I have a heater from a 101. this is a petrol heater. The glow plig has
a short ht lead from it and there are two connections on the wireing
loom which I assume atre all for a coil. I have no coil. Is this a
standard HT coil ie can I use the coil off an old mini? Any help!

Tony

> Mine usually fires up within the minute.... but are we sure it's a glow
> plug? This is Petrol Ebershapachers we are talking about and not diesel
> ones. Looks pretty sparkplugish to me...
>
Ahh, well........ In that case.......

I have only ever dealt with Diesel powered erbys, which definitely have
glowplugs.
Cant help you on the petrol one, but could quite well be a sparkplug.