P38A She’s Dead, Jim

[awkwardbob]

-I’m also getting a message saying ‘press remote or enter key code’ in the message centre

is that it needing EKA business. ?
The code for which it keeps forgetting

 

[Datatek]

-I’m also getting a message saying ‘press remote or enter key code’ in the message centre

is that it needing EKA business. ?
The code for which it keeps forgetting

Key code is the EKA key in the lock & turn business. Press remote is exactly what it says except if the FOB is out of sync it will not work.

 

[awkwardbob]

Ok. So if I ‘read’ becm in nano com I get ‘- - - -‘ for eka code.

I enter the correct code in nanocom and ‘write settings’ -all looks good.

I then enter the code in the lock as per the manual.

nothing.

check back into nanocom
And becm reports EKA code as ‘- - - -‘

 

[Datatek]

Ok. So if I ‘read’ becm in nano com I get ‘- - - -‘ for eka code.

I enter the correct code in nanocom and ‘write settings’ -all looks good.

I then enter the code in the lock as per the manual.

nothing.

check back into nanocom
And becm reports EKA code as ‘- - - -‘

You cannot "read" the EKA code from the BECM with Nanocom, the code should be in the P38 user guide/service book.
You can try turning off EKA in the BECM with Nanocom but if the BECM wants the code it will not turn off.

 

[awkwardbob]

Ah, ok. Well.... there are two EKA codes written (by hand) in the service book... I guess I try both of them ?

 

[awkwardbob]

Just out of curiosity, is there a way to determine the correct EKA code ?

or is that a dealer-only function ?

 

[marjon]

Have you tried asking the dealer for the EKA code its a free service. If the BECM has been changed it may have a different EKA.
Be very carfull you could get totally locked out.
If its asking for "or press fob" to me means you are not at this time in trouble, but would start by sorting the fob coms first.
Do you have the passive ring on the ignition?

J

 

[awkwardbob]

Have you tried asking the dealer for the EKA code its a free service. If the BECM has been changed it may have a different EKA.
Be very carfull you could get totally locked out.
If its asking for "or press fob" to me means you are not at this time in trouble, but would start by sorting the fob coms first.
Do you have the passive ring on the ignition?

J

hi, I’ll try the dealer for the correct EKA.

what do you mean by ‘passive ring’ ?

thanks again

Bob

 

[marjon]

There is.. oh sod it
key fob passive reader on ignition barrel | LandyZone - Land Rover Forum

Debate over which years

Never had to enter EKA on the 2001 or the 96 always managed with the fob.
So would suggest you ensure that part of the coms is working properly first.

J

 

[pwood999]

Open drivers door window just in case, and remove the trim panel. That way you can access the lock even if it gets screwed up.
Then re-check the door lock microswitches with Nanocom and make sure the BECM sees all three work correctly & reliably.

 

[tomcat59alan]

Have you tried asking the dealer for the EKA code its a free service. If the BECM has been changed it may have a different EKA.
Be very carfull you could get totally locked out.
If its asking for "or press fob" to me means you are not at this time in trouble, but would start by sorting the fob coms first.
Do you have the passive ring on the ignition?

J

Keep it clean

 

[Grrrrrr]

Just out of curiosity, is there a way to determine the correct EKA code ?

or is that a dealer-only function ?

Make sure you open and shut the door after 2 attempts to enter the EKA or you're heading dor a permanent lock out. All 3 Door lock microswitches have to be working to enter the EKA. It might so affect ability to sync fob.

 

[Grrrrrr]

Arghhhhh

this is driving me nuts.

Ok, so I went to change the RF receiver but decided to check the one already fitted and, what do you know ! It’s a green MkIII.
So I reconnected then tried to sync the key.

nada

went into Nani on, tried to reset the RF codes but keep getting the message that it’s received a valid code.

noticed some of the other BECM settings are gash too, so corrected them, hit ‘write to memory’ and it all
Looked good.

took the key out, put it back in -back to nonsense -so it doesn’t look like the BECM is holding data properly (does it require a CMOS battery ?)

I tried disabling the Immobiliser and the email but still can’t use the key to lock and the engine still says ‘disabled’

Curiously it also keeps forgetting the windows / sunroof settings. Even if I. Set them. When I pull out the key, it forgets.

it has all the hallmarks of a backup / motherboard matters gone wrong... but I’d love to hear what you guys think... I’m almost on the cusp of calling the RAC

Codes will show as nonesense in BECM to stop people nicking them. Might be possible to read "unlocked BECM" but unlocking can lead to odd behaviour.

 

[Datatek]

Codes will show as nonesense in BECM to stop people nicking them. Might be possible to read "unlocked BECM" but unlocking can lead to odd behaviour.

The BECM cannot be unlocked by any normal diagnostics.

 

[awkwardbob]

Ok, so I’m starting to get a bit concerned...
The RAC drew a blank.
Neither of the two EKA codes I have seen to work
The key won’t resync

how do I check that all the lock micro switches are ok ?
(although they were fine until this issue)

What would happen if I had lost my keys. ?Presumably Land Rover could code me a new pair (at vast expense)

interetingly the BECM reads as ‘unlocked’ in nanocom but I’m not sure I believe it -it also reports it as being a LHD manual vehicle which speaks French.

I’ve contacted Land Rover U.K. who are going to try and get me the correct EKA code after the dealer cut me off three times -but that’s assuming the BECM hasn’t been swapped out or tinkered with at some point in the past.

RAC suggested an auto locksmith but the local guy can only do 2002 onwards....

starting to run out of ideas

 

[pete12345]

Your not the 1st for the becm to revert back to french make sure your putting eka code in the correct way there’s a couple of posts on hear explaining it in great detail

 

[Datatek]

Ok, so I’m starting to get a bit concerned...
The RAC drew a blank.
Neither of the two EKA codes I have seen to work
The key won’t resync

how do I check that all the lock micro switches are ok ?
(although they were fine until this issue)

What would happen if I had lost my keys. ?Presumably Land Rover could code me a new pair (at vast expense)

interetingly the BECM reads as ‘unlocked’ in nanocom but I’m not sure I believe it -it also reports it as being a LHD manual vehicle which speaks French.

I’ve contacted Land Rover U.K. who are going to try and get me the correct EKA code after the dealer cut me off three times -but that’s assuming the BECM hasn’t been swapped out or tinkered with at some point in the past.

RAC suggested an auto locksmith but the local guy can only do 2002 onwards....

starting to run out of ideas

The switch to French can happen with low battery volts Zoot alors sounds like you may be trying to do things with a flat battery.
You can use Nanocom to correct the language etc but only if the battery voltage is above 12.6 volts, i.e. fully charged.
You can check the operation of the door micro switches with Nanocom.
Have you re-connected the RF receiver aerial wire?

 

[awkwardbob]

The switch to French can happen with low battery volts Zoot alors sounds like you may be trying to do things with a flat battery.
You can use Nanocom to correct the language etc but only if the battery voltage is above 12.6 volts, i.e. fully charged.
You can check the operation of the door micro switches with Nanocom.
Have you re-connected the RF receiver aerial wire?

Hi, yes the RF Receiver is fully connected (I now have 2x Mk3, green dot ones !).

the battery is only reading 12.1V so I wonder if I should give it a little love.

I’m concerned that there are 2 EKA codes scribbled in the handbook, why would that change ?

can a dealer access read the EKA code from the becm if that has been changed snd not re-synched with the VIN ?

thanjs again

Bob

 

[awkwardbob]

Can I use Nanocom to enter the EKA and then disarm it ? Or is my late ‘97 too old for this
?

if I can, what would the procedure be ?

 

[DanClarke]

Can I use Nanocom to enter the EKA and then disarm it ? Or is my late ‘97 too old for this
?

if I can, what would the procedure be ?

Mine can have the EKA code entered from the Nanocom, and can have the security features disabled also from Nanocom. Mine is a 2000 MY High-Line unit I think.
I am not sure at which year/revision these capabilities were included. Keith ( @Datatek ) may know.